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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7gf-BRLzwM - Here's the vid to the 3000 race where the dude one with one shoe. :|
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I'm on Gebremeskel, not sure how this one will pan out. Mo did look buggered after his heat. Watched that clip a few days back, funny but don't know if it counts for much.
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So then why are you on Gebremeskel?
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Handy that the Mo price has gone out a bit. Fatigue not really a concern for me. Already shown that he can do the 5000m after the 10000m and maybe even improve in the 5000m. Should win comfortably
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he has got 3 days to recover, that should be plenty
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When did he prove that ballistic?
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when he won the world championship 5000m after getting caught near the finish of the 10km in daegu last year
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Perhaps being caught in the 10k gave him that kick to win the 5k?
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whatever, it proves he can race well in the 5km after a hard race in the 10km
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Was Dejen Gebremeskel in that 5k race?
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Yes, he got the bronze
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Gebremeskel was fourth but plenty can change a year on. Farah gave every indication that he found it tough to qualify - despite the ridiculous commentary from Cram/Foster I think everyone else could see that - but if he recovers he can stll win. Given the prices I don't think it is worth guessing what sort of shape he will be in for the final.
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his whole mental and physical state will be different in the final, when it matters
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Well I'm going to guess that the 10,000 took a lot out of him so will lay in the win and place markets.A few other runners there so not just a 2 horse race like the betting suggests.
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Even Farah's coach fancies Rupp to beat him in the 5000m. He wont win!!!
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Do you have a source of him saying this?
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“I’m delighted with the way Mo and Galen have recovered from the race,” said Salazar, who has masterminded Farah’s transformation in to a world beater over the past 18 months.
“They’ve had no bad fatigue or no soreness, they both slept really well the last couple of nights and are probably feeling a lot fresher than before they went into the 10k. “I don’t believe they’ve suffered any deficit from their performances in the 10k, and I’ve seen it before that sometimes athletes feel much fresher a few days after a hard effort, after a period of tapering down which can make them feel sluggish. If anything, they are both physically and psychologically in better shape. “The pressure is off. It’s not as though they don’t want to do well in the 5,000m, just that they’ve already got a great achievement under their belts, and they’re feeling fresher and more relaxed now than they were. I’m very happy with how they’re both doing.” Salazar made a similar observation at last year’s World Championships in Daegu when he performed a fitness test on Farah and Rupp and discovered that they were performing better than immediately before their 10,000m final, in which Farah took the silver. Farah proved his point when he showed a blistering turn of pace to win the 5,000m final and claim his first global gold medal. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/athletics/9460246/Team-GBs-Mo-Farah-in-great-shape-ahead-of-5000-metres-says-coach-Alberto-Salazar.html Please stop dishing out false information. |
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"What worries me is this '11 New Balance Indoor Grand Prix - Men's 3,000m - YouTube"
I backed Gebremeskel in the World Indoor 5000m this year at 20/1 and he came 5th and was well beat, Farah 4th, and Lagat who was around 5/2 won fairly easily. What happened in the 2011 race you talk about has less relevance than the race above. Why Gebremeskel is so short is because of his scintilating performance in Paris and also Farah appearing to work harder than expected in the heat. |
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Its not false info. Googled it this morning, after reading the other topic " Galen Rupp 5000 metres" further down this page. Salazer thinks Rupp can turn the tables on Mo, but thinks Mo will still be in amongst the medals.
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Provide a link please Akak?
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Google it It was in American sports page. Gebremeskel is 10 secs better than Farah and Salazar is well aware, he aint winning this one!!!
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Times are irelavent in championship distance races
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Mo Farah looked a bit uncomfortable in the 5000m today. I thought it was the warm conditions that didn't suit. It's hot for the next few days but I think rain is forecast on the day of the 5000m final.
I'd be more concerned that Gabremeskel is tougher competition than Mo faced in the 10000m. And Mo is seven years older, which might not be ideal for 10000m, 5000m heat, 5000m final. Then Gebremesket hasn't impressed tactically. He gets out of position a lot, yo-yoing between the lead, and down in around 10th. |
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lagat anyone? would love him to win and his kick is still there. if the pace isn't too fast early on then i think he could pose a strong threat
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sod it i'm putting a small bet on lagat at 12's
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Gebremeskel for me. Younger, faster, fresher. If the Kenyans & Ethiopians guarantee a good pace all the better.
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Lagat would be a wonderful end to a great career but sport rarely ends like that.Tom Watson open championship a couple of years ago.Still,a slow run race would suit him.
Dibaba is the best woman middle distance runner I've seen.Fully expect her to double-double up in the 5000.She won her heat cosy while Farah didn't. Ok,everyone is different but Farah is too short for me so lays in both markets.Expect a rough race and Farah will be watched (and shoved) by all and sundry as the fav and 10,000 winner.On the plus side,he seems able to handle the rough and tumble and regain position quickly. |
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I think you have to be with Gebremeskel, I dont agree with some posters that times are irrlevant Gebremeskel runs this distance faster and has only had this event to deal with mentally and physically, I think Mo was very tired after that race but if a fresher quicker younger horse was presented as a betting opportunity at a bigger price (I took 5/2 ew) as opposed at the time to circa evens then you have to be on Gebremeskel.
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Mo Farah says his new status as 10,000m Olympic champion has made him a marked man, after he qualified for the 5,000m final on Wednesday morning despite being jostled in the race. "I am definitely a target," said Farah, whose long stride makes him vulnerable to a congested field.
"I am the Olympic champion over 10,000 metres. You just have to accept it. Hopefully the final won't be as rough because we won't have so many guys. It was really rough. It was like being in the ring with [British boxer] Anthony Ogogo! As soon as they saw me there was a lot of barging and pushing. It was rough but I managed to get through." Farah finished third in his heat, in a time of 13min 26sec, only the 15th fastest time of the round. Staying with the lead pack, Farah remained in fourth place over the final few laps. When the bell rang Hayle Ibrahimov of Azerbaijan and Isiah Kiplangat Koech both kicked hard, but Farah did not seem his usual self and struggled somewhat with the fast finish despite having run in the slower of the two heats. The 29-year-old looked weary and admitted as much, reflecting on his experience of winning the 10,000m title and how everything from the race to the media duties afterwards had contributed to an energy sapping 24 hours. "By the time I got back it was a late night and there was a lot of emotion. It is something I had never done before and now I know how much it takes out of you. "I am definitely tired and I think it showed out there. The legs didn't feel great but that is what happens. Hopefully I will recover well and look forward to the final, forget about what I have done and rest up." Still the Briton is determined to give it his all and attempt a 5,000m medal to go with his world title over that distance. "There is zero pressure. I am not putting any pressure on myself. It is amazing to have the crowd. I want to do well for the crowd because the support drives you further. Whatever I do I will give 100%. I am full of confidence and having the home crowd will definitely drive me more." Farah will have his US training partner Galen Rupp alongside him in Saturday's final, as the two friends make a bid to repeat their one-two in the 10,000m. |
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1980 Miruts "the shifter" Yifter 13.20.91
1984 Said Aouita 13.05.59 1988 John Ngugi 13.11.70 1992 Dieter Bauman 13.15.52 1996 Venuste Niyongabo 13.07.96 2000 Millon Wolde 13.35.49 2004 Hicham El Guerrooj 13.14.39 2008 Keninisa Bekele 12.57.82 world record:Keninisa Bekele 12.37.35 (2004) The most important factors in the 5000 metres are the ability to kick (fast last lap)and ability to run close to 13 minutes with uneven lap times . Somewhere in the region of 54/55 seconds should do it . Who has the fastest last lap ? |
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Bump.....
Any update on Mo's state of condition in the lead up to tomorrow's race? |
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no further news i'm afraid
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I have no info apart from the media, but I decided to oppose Dibaba yesterday and she was beaten by an athlete who missed the 10k. I think that if Mo does get beat (and I hope he doesn't) it will be by someone who has targetted this race.
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Ethopias 2nd string big price on here couldnt resist.
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Farah looked gassed after the heat. Probably recovered a bit by now but the whole experience is probably taxing on him mentally/emotionally as well as physically.
Gebremeskel looked great in his heat and is the man to beat. There are a few others who have a real chance though but I honestly don't expect Farah to win here and he'll do well to medal imo. The almost 50/50 odds on Gebremeskel in the matchup with Farah is very tasty. Also find the laying of Farah for the podium at low 1.3's fascinating as well. |
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Gebremeskel did hint at possible team tactics to make this a fast race and drop off some of the kickers...
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Good luck to anyone brave enough to back Farah @ 15/8 for Gold. Struggled to make third in his heat, and admitted he was tired. At least six in this final that can beat him, especially Gebremenskel, Koech, and Lagat. At these odds he is a big lay!!!
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brave man laying the world champion
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Lets have a proper insight into why you think Mo will take it Juorick.
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