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Who said cheats don't prosper? Cry

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By:
HansUlrichApfelStrudel
When: 05 Aug 12 22:19
Ben Johnson seething with roid rage
By:
judorick
When: 05 Aug 12 22:22
who other than gatlin has been suspended?
By:
lanza
When: 05 Aug 12 22:23
didnt the beast have a 3month supplement ban or something?
By:
Sudoku_Junior
When: 05 Aug 12 22:28
Yeah, apparently it wasnt on the banned list but had the same affect as a drug that was on the banned list, so i cant work out why it wasnt on the list anyway.
By:
DonNo1
When: 05 Aug 12 22:29
Does convicted make you worse than being uncovicted? Be realistic, they're probably all on it
By:
BARNEY15C
When: 05 Aug 12 22:31
Question mark over Ohuruogu (yes i know she was cleared eventually)still odd tho
By:
Mike-lfc
When: 05 Aug 12 22:51

Aug 5, 2012 -- 10:28PM, Sudoku_Junior wrote:


Yeah, apparently it wasnt on the banned list but had the same affect as a drug that was on the banned list, so i cant work out why it wasnt on the list anyway.


If its not on list then he hasn't done anything wrong. Who's to say he wouldnt have used it if it was?

By:
baconONtoast
When: 05 Aug 12 22:55
They all dope to the eyeballs before the event, no way to catch them.

Then there's whatever undetectable crap the top guys are on.
By:
Sudoku_Junior
When: 05 Aug 12 23:58

Aug 5, 2012 -- 10:51PM, Mike-lfc wrote:


Aug  5, 2012 -- 10:28PM, Sudoku_Junior wrote:Yeah, apparently it wasnt on the banned list but had the same affect as a drug that was on the banned list, so i cant work out why it wasnt on the list anyway.If its not on list then he hasn't done anything wrong. Who's to say he wouldnt have used it if it was?


That's exactly my point. If he got banned for something that wasn't on the list it doesn't make sense. You either don't ban him or make sure that it is on the list.

By:
windmill
When: 06 Aug 12 00:18
hope bolt take,s some of that stuff m phelps got banned for, might give the rest a chance.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 06 Aug 12 00:25
The substance Blake took is now on the banned list. I don't think it was then - Wada initially didn't ban him but a three-month suspension was given on appeal.
By:
judorick
When: 06 Aug 12 00:36
what was the substance darlo? got a name for it?
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 06 Aug 12 00:39
Methylhexanamine. The Jamaican anti-doping organisation appealed its own ruling and looks like got the Wada list changed. They said it was similar to tuaminoheptane. All these drug names mean nothing to me mind.
By:
judorick
When: 06 Aug 12 00:41
stimulant
By:
Fela Kuti
When: 06 Aug 12 07:36
It was DMAA the same stuff that is in Oxyelite Pro, the fat burner that some Hull rugby players have been banned for. It's been banned in the USA, Australia, NZ, Canada, but not in the UK.
By:
HansUlrichApfelStrudel
When: 06 Aug 12 10:32
Ohorugu not a single word mentioned about drugs by the Beeb Crazy

Only interested in accusing Algerians imo
By:
NonShy..
When: 06 Aug 12 10:41
Hans - zzzzz

seriously like a broken record.

wiggins is a cheat in your eyes.

sad, very very sad that you have such a dour outlook on life/sport
By:
HansUlrichApfelStrudel
When: 06 Aug 12 10:43
You think cheats should be allowed to prosper in sport ? Scared
By:
NonShy..
When: 06 Aug 12 10:45
again, where did i say that?

you make things up as you go along!
By:
HansUlrichApfelStrudel
When: 06 Aug 12 10:47
You think it is fine for Justin Gatlin at the end of his career to have multiple Olympic medals despite twice failing drugs tests? Cry

Or why are you crying at my posts? You dont think this is an important issue or what is your agenda?
By:
NonShy..
When: 06 Aug 12 10:49
again....! where did i say it was fine justin gatlin wins a bronze?

i think it is very important but unlike you i let people who have not been found guilty prosper without suspicion... you prefer to accuse anyone with talent and believe everyone is taking some drugs.
By:
donny osmond
When: 06 Aug 12 10:57
i've always found it hard to accept that the guys at the top are clean whilst all about them are at it

in 20 years time or so the samples from london will be re tested, and we may get results
but i doubt it

some previous olympic samples have been re tested using todays technology and results not published


ben johnson and co caught at the time, on drugs, yet no where near todays standard
you have to think that the drugs then either didnt work or else strange forces are at work
By:
Degs
When: 06 Aug 12 11:03
There are drug issues in pretty much all the top sports - Athletics, Football, Cycling, Swimming, Cricket, NFL - you name it. BUT, you might as well leave it to the authorities to deal with or give up watching sport altogether. No point in getting wound up about it.
By:
NonShy..
When: 06 Aug 12 11:05
my stance:

get caught taking drugs - then minimum 2 year ban and all previous titles, records etc stripped.

i'd give them a second chance as people can be misinformed, mislead (young athletes) but a percentage of their future earnings would go towards the sport and costs of drug testing

justin gatlin has been caught twice, i believe, although first was not steroids... if you are caught second time then life time ban.

i do think it is hard pill to swallow watching gatlin pick up a bronze ahead of gay who has suffered bad injuries and drugs free but his reputation is tarnished and we all know that

cheating happens in every sport... neil back heineken cup final, maradona, premier league every single game... just that in athletics it's down to your own body and not conning officials
By:
donny osmond
When: 06 Aug 12 11:14
the east germans showed what could be done in the chemistry lab, and the effects can be seen on people today

some of them had no clue what was going on, some footballers have said they have had vitamin jabs, and doubtless didnt know what was in it

then we have athletes claiming to have eaten contaminated steaks, ffs



i just wish they would re test all samples 20 years after the games and publish results, but we know it wont happen, and we know why
By:
NonShy..
When: 06 Aug 12 11:19
well the NFL is pretty strict on it... 4 game ban!!
By:
dlarssonf
When: 06 Aug 12 11:28
Yeah I agree with Degs that you have to watch and enjoy sport until somebody is proved guilty of taking drugs.  Having said that I believe that if caught it should be a lifetime ban.  I must admit that it galled me seeing Gatlin pick up a medal last night - he should be nowhere near a Olympic event
By:
donny osmond
When: 06 Aug 12 11:35
i think the authorities know the truth, and fear a full trial if they give a life ban , in which the beans get spilt
By:
dlarssonf
When: 06 Aug 12 11:37
although you are prob right, so be it
By:
donny osmond
When: 06 Aug 12 11:43
the puruit of lance armstrong and his team by the us authorities is interesting

if he comes out of a full trial with an un tarnished reputation i will be delighted
By:
donny osmond
When: 06 Aug 12 11:43
the puruit of lance armstrong and his team by the us authorities is interesting

if he comes out of a full trial with an un tarnished reputation i will be delighted
By:
GoBallistic
When: 06 Aug 12 11:54
Armstrong doesn't have much of a reputation left to tarnish
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 06 Aug 12 11:56
It's good to cast aspersions on amazing athletic performances, based on nothing more than suspicion - it makes you look cool and knowledgeable.

When nothing happens, you merely say 'wait for another 20 years' thus sustaining your 'I'm in the know' persona and (doubtless) massive hard-on.
By:
NonShy..
When: 06 Aug 12 11:58
lol roger.. i agree

regarding lance... innocent until proven guilty.
By:
NonShy..
When: 06 Aug 12 11:59
although my mate had a "good" theory that US and cycling revealing their greatest cyclist was a cheat would destroy the reputation of cycling forever
By:
judorick
When: 06 Aug 12 12:17
cycling has a deserved reputation

a russian failed a test on july 24th and was due to compete in london

drug addled
By:
donny osmond
When: 06 Aug 12 12:18
everyone is innocent until proven guilty


if they have nothing to hide why try to prevent old samples being re tested


some athletes use new drugs, not yet banned, so cant be detected, are they as innocent as those on no drugs at all ???



the innocent will always suffer for the sins of the guilty , thats life, and it isnt clever to point it out
By:
donny osmond
When: 06 Aug 12 12:18
everyone is innocent until proven guilty


if they have nothing to hide why try to prevent old samples being re tested


some athletes use new drugs, not yet banned, so cant be detected, are they as innocent as those on no drugs at all ???



the innocent will always suffer for the sins of the guilty , thats life, and it isnt clever to point it out
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 06 Aug 12 12:32

Aug 6, 2012 -- 11:05AM, NonShy.. wrote:


my stance:get caught taking drugs - then minimum 2 year ban and all previous titles, records etc stripped.i'd give them a second chance as people can be misinformed, mislead (young athletes) but a percentage of their future earnings would go towards the sport and costs of drug testingjustin gatlin has been caught twice, i believe, although first was not steroids... if you are caught second time then life time ban.i do think it is hard pill to swallow watching gatlin pick up a bronze ahead of gay who has suffered bad injuries and drugs free but his reputation is tarnished and we all know thatcheating happens in every sport... neil back heineken cup final, maradona, premier league every single game... just that in athletics it's down to your own body and not conning officials


I think I agree with that. I was of the stance one failed test and that's it career over. However, the likes of David Millar show that you cannot only change but can be a force for good in the drugs war. And as you say young athletes can be mislead, etc, especially in some sports.

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