Wiggins achievements are being massively over-rated by the tub-thumping British media. It was the weakest TdF probably ever & he was no1 rider in a team that was allowed to dictate the race from start to finish with no pressure applied. Then all his main rivals were either no-shows or heavily injured so he had no real time trial opposition yesterday. Is he on some performance enhancers? No idea but his recovery from TdF efforts, and road race efforts was pretty remarkable.

again... if people watch the itv documentary you will see team sky have conditioned him in preparation for this

truly fantastic performance and achievement... credit to cycling and britain

johnny.... not a racing anorak at all.

i'd say it was wiggins and cavendish who got me interested in the sport... different class to footballers and certain other professional athletes...

watch wiggins interview and listen to him every time drugs are mentioned... i think it's sad that people will tarnish everyone with the same brush...

The Team Sky rider — favourite to be the first British Tour winner — let rip at critics who claim top performers must be taking drugs.

Wiggins, 32, said: “I say they’re just f*****g w*****s. I cannot be doing with people like that.

“It justifies their own bone-idleness because they can’t ever imagine applying themselves to do anything in their lives.

"It’s easy for them to sit under a pseudonym on Twitter and write that sort of s**t, rather than get off their a***s in their own lives and apply themselves and work hard at something and achieve something.

“And that’s ultimately it. C***s.”

So whereas Wiggins is clean, what, Armstrong, Evans, Schlecks, Contador all are not? So all other TdF wins of the last 10 years or more need to be scrubbed, other than Wiggins win this year which was the only clean win? I find that equally hard to make sense of.

xmoneyx - loads of various substances out there, some will, some will enhance weight loss

johnny - i think there are many drug cheats in sport ... cycling especially ... stick him on that pedestal and if we have to knock him off then so be it ... until anything untoward has been shown i don't see why it is discussed.

i don't see what is achieved by it... if i have kids in next 4 years and they grow up with wiggins as an idol then fantastic... rather that than john terry or rio ferdinand

none of wiggo's performances this year have been beyond what a 100% clean athlete is capable of. Compared to the power outputs the likes of Armstrong were putting out in the past he is a complete wimp. All this boring science stuff is obviously far to difficult to understand for the pathetic ranters on this forum who prefer to pass judgment according to their gut instinct. laughable

the ranters will always rant. i suppose as wiggo himself said, it makes them feel better about their sad little lives

It's a very dismissive response by Wiggins when the sport is rife with drug cheats and it is a legitimate question. No ranting whatsoever, despite the name - you want to read my proper rants.

Don't tar everyone with the same brush.

A more relevant talking point is the bandwagon cycling and Wiggins fans who are all now eulogising about him like he's some great when a month ago most of them wouldn't have even known his name. People need to stop getting caught up in what they are told to think by the media. There's been little objective analysis of what Wiggins has achieved.

exactly wizard - it certainly was an incredibly weak TdF this year. Someone just off their stabilisers could have been a contender.

That sort of stuff likes to be brushed under the carpet though max - heresy to even pose the question according to most on here. It is supposed to be a forum so good work mentioning that.

I hope he's clean but I see no reason for his achievements to go unquestioned.  The one point that sticks with me is his improved TTing.  He was always good but he is now better since losing weight, seems odd.  In the leaked UCI suspect list last year Wiggo was a 5/10, the same score as Contador!

Im not sure wiggins has improved that much as a TTer in the last couple of years. He's probably improved a bit due to hard training and technical work with team sky. The competition hasnt been so strong this year though because Cancellara has not performed as well as a few years ago (badly broken collarbone hindered his fitness) and Tony Martin hasnt been as good this year probably due to several crashes in training and in competition. You have to realise that Wiggins has had a dream run since he broke his collarbone in 2011. He has had no problems or crashes or setbacks of any kind - that makes a big difference to an athlete.

Its nice to see most on here can debate without resorting to insults as a minority above have. I respect anyone who sees and believes Wiggins is clean. Its their opinion and everyone has the right to express one.

I find the arguments being made for Wiggins though lack substance. One poster makes out that Sky have brought a new professionalism to the sport. This imho is patently ridiculous. Armstrong was methodically Professional (Whether you believe him a doper or not). The idea that Sky is some sort of "Super Professional" outfit is naive and is simply not backed up with any serious facts.

Johnnyrant above is spot on. I remember hearing Wiggins in 2007 lambasting Moreni, yet this year he castigates Journalists who raise (Fully legitimate questions over the sport).


In relation to watching the ITV dcoumentary.....No thanks, I watched plenty of Armstrong etc....Pointless PR exercises. Watch them at your leisure. To me they say little.

In the leaked UCI suspect list last year Wiggo was a 5/10, the same score as Contador!


Yes the incredible thing regarding that report was the open admission from the UCI that it actually existed.


  Those in the five lower categories warranted barely any scrutiny - a total of 156 riders.

   The samples of the 15 riders in category five warranted "precise, and sometimes more affirmative commentary" from scientists, said the report, suggesting they may have been involved in some kind of manipulation.