again, can't use athletics in your argument.

totally different concept.

it was immoral but they are not totally to blame.

basically match fixing what they did

To compare this to athletics is just ridiculous.

In athletics you are trying to conserve energy, and qualification through to the next round is all important.

In Badminton, that is not the case.

They were all deliberately trying to lose.

Kick'em out the right decision.

not sure if i got it right but in an earlier match, the favs (another china team) got beaten by underdog, so the winner of that match plays the supposed "stronger" china team. To put it in footballing terms, its like spain/brazil is second in another group and in your group, you are joint top, so the top 2 will try to "lose" so they dont meet spain/brazil, just that in football, u can field your reserves and things dont get that obvious.

For the China team they would want to avoid their compatriots so that they get to meet in the finals and maximise medals for their country, like in table tennis. So basically I would say change it to a format like tennis should prevent future problems because every game is a MUST win

This isn't the Bundesliga hans, we're not keen on match fixing over here

Have you thought of answer to my last question yet sumo?

I think I've answered the only thing you phrased as a question to me.

These players are doing their best to win gold.
In that last game they were doing their worst to win gold

It would be stupid of them to minimise their chances.
Being caught match fixing in front of a global audience has certainly minimised their chances this time

its the i,o,c,s fault for allowing rules that lead to this,athletes do everything in the rules to win - no where does is say you cant loose on purpose to win,not getting enough sleep the night before is trying to loose - its wrong they ve been banned.

I think you need to

'They would have been longer odds to win gold if they won the matches so how do you work that out exactly?'

What odds are they now?

What odds are you offering?

If the Chinese were so unbeatable the Norwegians wouldn't have beaten them.  Be interested to see the full replay of the match

The right thing? What damaging the image of the sport that they make their livelihood from and casting negative attention to their country demeaning the values of the Olympics ok

These were qualifying matches, they had done all they needed to qualify. What do you expect from dead rubbers exactly?

Some form of effort, not just chucking the match. 

FWIW

The behaviour by Yu Yang and Wang Xiaoli on court violated the Olympics ideal and the spirit of fair competition. The Chinese delegation feels distressed over this matter

Who says? It's not their position to judge, the other Chinese lost in the group so they aren't unbeatable.  If they are so good then they'd have to beat them in the final anyhow

Just say that this was an absolutely unbeatable team they were trying to avoid.

It would be crazy to try to get into that half of the draw and have minimal chance of a medal or getting to the final and having a tiny chance of gold.

Doing their worst to win gold, would have been putting 100% in to winning the match.

As said previously, they were doing their best to win gold by playing their worst that game- i.e. they were doing their worst (tongue in cheek)... to win gold. Jesus christ.

Jesus Chirst?

You were the pedantic one replying in the first place sumo, calm down you will give yourself a coronary.

athletes shouldn't be concerned with whether they're giving the required level of effort or concentration, only results! governing bodies shouldn't touch this with a barge pole, EVER!

You're the one with the patent lack of humour on the subject. Pocket talking hans? You were really keen to try and get odds weren't you?