How far back are we going to go with this "lets destroy history" thing

what about,what if
one statue which has been debated for 20 years has been torn down, the powell statue has all been about the police ,council not a single person has turned up at statue demamding it comes down, their,s discussions,debates going on about other statues,whats wrong with that,exct same discussions that went on over jimmy Saville,s statue
but the right go straight in to what about debate

I think it's safe to say that the "Progressive" protestors WON'T be going back in time as far as investigating the slave-owning founders of any peaceful religions out there.

Nor will they be looking to demolish any newspaper businesses, originally used in Manchester, that prospered on the back of cotton picked by slaves.

Cambodia was a nice place til the nutters took over and time started again.

History can't be changed, the people we choose to celebrate can.

----you-have-to-laugh--- • June 12, 2020 11:14 AM BST
History can't be changed, the people we choose to celebrate can.

That's the problem who's choosing who WE celebrate and how did they reach their conclusions
Under the guise of anti fascism a completely undemocratic fascist operation has taken place what gives them the right to do any of this

I welcome debate on British history.

We did some pretty sh1te things if you want to pull them up

We did some great things, if you want to pull them up

More folk are rather complex characters, we all have flaws.

Learning that bad folk can do good things and good folk can do
Things is part of growing up.

All this shutting down debate as anti democratic is simply nonsense.

Debate has been happening and will continue, if a few statues
are removed then so be it, but we don't want a referendum
to remove a statue of a bloke that put up 100 years ago and
nobody remembers who decided to put it there.

Folk. Like Churchill will never be removed because he is a national hero
who saved our country at our hour of need.
Folk like Coulston should be in a museum, at best.

There's a few others who bought there place on our streets that need
To be shifted into museum with coulston

I hope people enjoy the debates and learn from them, I love history.

Learning that bad folk can do good things and good folk can do bad
Things is part of growing up.

I guarantee we won't all agree on who goes in museum and who
stays on street, but don't shut down the debate, enjoy it.

All this shutting down debate as anti democratic is simply nonsense.




Which debate was that? Did I miss it while the rioters were busy?

Ah so another attempt to shut it down

Rioters have been rioting for years and years

I think it seems as if the debate has passed you by

told you last night the morons cant debate,
chruchill can stay because they can forget his racist past because he defeated hitler
powell can stay because they can forget his liking of hitler ,because of good things he did later,
win,win

shame they never had a straightener because like in porridge they might have both took a dive,

You mentioned shutting down debate. The rioters jumped onto a situation, there was no mention of debate, just them instantly imposing their ideas on the east of us. I hope it will end badly for them.

If you debate the Rioters rather than the history then
you let them win.

Churchill boarded up for the weekend, for his own protection
as he's been a target for nutters for years as the nutters get
the publicity they seek.

Doubtless alternatives are being drawn up and news reporters
will be seeking to get their cameras into prime sites to
broadcast riots live on Saturday.

All this shutting down debate as anti democratic is simply nonsense.





That's my quote.... From above

Thugs vandalising listed structures is not debate.

No need for debate on that

coulson donated a lot of his fortune to charity, a lot of people that used slaves in the last 400-500 years also did some very good things for the world as a whole but the protestors only have tunnel vision so anyone remotely associated with slaves will get a tanking.

Partially true LS the white people remotely associated with slaves will get a tanking

knuckledraggers seem to have multiple threads going arguing with themselves usually the sign of going barking,but that happened a long time ago,
do tommy and the boys no churchy was a gooooner,

So its ok for millions to build temples to worship  a man who had sex with children  , also  a major slave trader who had men castrated before being used as slaves ?? Why is this acceptable in any modern society ?? ANSWERS PLEASE

Sounds like 1tp has been doing a bit of kneeling.

1TP and Donny seem to be the Exsperts on all things Righteous, so I expect they will provide the answer ..

SUE BRAVERMEN tory att gen leading member of a sect that agrees  with sex with under age children

still when your nailed to the altar of Brexit you've got to put up with these little irritants

Temples were and are being Built Why ? you are once again not answering the Question , two wrongs do not make a Right ... 

Do you agree with temples being built to worship Slave traders and child molesters ? Its a simple question ,and if so

please state your reasons .. TYIA

To be unbiased I could add the Catholic Church , which has few buildings that could be shifted and has blatantly hid Child abuse for hundreds of years ..........Not sure if they had slaves , or just mugged the followers ..

is it not about time betfair put up a market on the next statue to be attacked ?

If so could you price up the following if they have statues ?

Alf garnett
Oswald Mosley
Enoch Powell
Margaret Thatcher
Ken Livingstone
Ed Balls

by the way case, they just mugged the followers and they are still at it !

"Rioters have been rioting for years and years"

true, but in the past they didn't get egged on by the media, and they weren't funded by the establishment.

the right will protect livingstone to the death due to some of his words about hitler,strange that aint it

How far back are we going to go with this "lets destroy history" thing?

I don't think people are trying to destroy history. If anything it's just the opposite as in let's critically examine history not just from the perspective usually taught.

even doris,churchills number one fan ,says he,s got a history/views we wouldn't tolerate today

Wrong Charlie they are trying to change history,they probably don't even know where Africa is on a map.....

Who are they?

Exactly who are they????

(((They)))?

history has been destroyed by the bringing down of a statue that nobody outside of Bristol new before and now are a lot more informed on

knew*

Jun 12, 2020 -- 11:08AM, 11kv wrote:

Wrong Charlie they are trying to change history,they probably don't even know where Africa is on a map.....

If you are going to use "they" then at least have the balls to say who they are.

I,ll add that to the list

what about
what if
they

Tell me Charlie because all I see is black and white teenagers with fook all better to do causing trouble in the name of George

So prey do tell..

So by they you mean: black and white teenagers with fook all better to do causing trouble in the name of George?

looks that way to me

What do you see Charlie.?

So presumably everyone over the age of 19 is not included in they?

A lot of people involved in this have a mental age of a teenager so are included in a roundabout way.

It's ok I'm just trying to understand what you meant by they. So it's: black and white teenagers with fook all better to do causing trouble in the name of George or lots of people involved in this with a mental age of a teenager?

Charlie did you kneel last week ?

No. Would you mind answering my question please?

I didn't clap for the NHS either.

Which question? "who are they" same people who gamble horses."They are backing it"

they
/ðeɪ/
Learn to pronounce
pronoun
1.
used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified.
"the two men could get life sentences if they are convicted"
2.
used to refer to a person of unspecified gender.
"ask a friend if they could help"

Im not interested if you have clap.

11kv employing the critical thinking skills below that of a teenager here

I understand the usage of the word they in normal context but your usage of it, especially being italicized, wasn't clear to me and I'd like to be sure before I argue with you.

Teenagers do not think

And start swearing!

fill your boot's Charlie

Time for swearing but I'll refrain for a tad. I take it you are a teenager then 11kv.

Mental age yes...

And does your carer allow you to swear?

Only when she's not in the room.

You have been patient and answered my questions, in a manner, so feel free to ask me some questions and I will answer.

What are you having for your tea.?

But I don't know the answer to whether Baph has been taking it up the arris more than usual so don't ask that.

Good probing question 11kv. Probably roast chicken, roast spuds, cauli, peas and gravy. But might be pan-fried chicken with pak choi, mushrooms and mash.

I've become a bit bored with this now. It's a bit like the Argument Clinic.

Well you paid for 30 minutes so we might as well carry on

I only paid for five.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ

Should satisfy Charlie.

I'd already seen that you fool.

This is what you meant: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hwqn9

Glad you enrolled for the abuse.

Glad you enrolled for the abuse.

Controlled what, or your bad ...?

Taking the furlough pay but refusing to argue! Just how left wing are you?

disgraceful language from the forums tourettes afflicted

How's your arris?

I'm not furloughed I'm retired. Very left wing at times and very right at times.

i think that was addressed to you, Mr Bula, although you never know with Charlene

Just to be clear Baph it was your arris I was enquiringly about. I really do hope there's been no foreign objects up there today.

Spot the mistake.

no idea what you're talking about Charlene

Jun 12, 2020 -- 1:27PM, Baphornet wrote:

disgraceful language from the forums tourettes afflicted

Most things go over Baph's head. Some land on his chin and some disappear up knows where.

still no idea what you're ranting about

You wouldn't. You can't remember about your arris? You haven't read this thread? And you are all alone without back up. What could be wrong?

back up? The topic you were owned on Charlene is still there. No back up required. Still no idea what you're on about on here though

what a disgusting post Charlene! Are you homophobic?

Jun 12, 2020 -- 1:50PM, Baphornet wrote:

back up? The topic you were owned on Charlene is still there. No back up required. Still no idea what you're on about on here though

back up? No back up required.
Can't even be consistent in one post.

Jun 12, 2020 -- 1:54PM, Baphornet wrote:

what a disgusting post Charlene! Are you homophobic?

No, are you?
I was only enquiring after your health. As I said yesterday you only have to answer the question. But you don't.

i think you need a lay down Charlene, absolutely no sense forthcoming from your posts. Well except the fithy ones

ah you mean the homophobic question you asked yesterday, & wasted some 3 hours on without receiving a reply Hows your head Charlene?

It wasn't homophobic that just shows you thought it was. My head is fine.

frain not just me; everyone on here can make their own minds up about your comments towards me, & bad language in general, Charlene

They can indeed. And they can also read the thread and get the gist of the last half of it. Your time's up you haven't paid for an extended argument.

aw Charlene, you're not running off again are you? Au revoir mon ami!