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Professor Karol Sikora, a former World Health Organization (WHO) cancer adviser, said doctors may put the virus on death certificates if there was 'any hint' it could have been the cause, without hard proof.
And many of the victims who died at the height of the pandemic could have died by the summer anyway because they were in old age, he said.
- quelle surprise...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8409677/Coronavirus-deaths-HALF-official-toll.html
In comparison, Germany — which has recorded fewer than 10,000 deaths — is much stricter about classifying fatalities as being down to Covid-19.
German medics can only say a death is down to Covid-19 if the clinical team involved in the end-of-life care certify that's what they believe was to blame.
Professor Sikora described the UK's system of recording deaths as 'woeful' because it still uses pieces of paper which are passed around a lot of people.
would be dead by now anyway...
And why is the daily mail censoring the news that Elvis has just died of covid on the moon?
These statistics will be released on 27 November 2020 9:30am.
Recent excess mortality could be for a whole host of reasons, not least cancelled treatment.
Jun 11, 2020 -- 4:37PM, Injera wrote:
Winter excess mortality:These statistics will be released on 27 November 2020 9:30am.Recent excess mortality could be for a whole host of reasons, not least cancelled treatment.
Keep grasping.
Jun 11, 2020 -- 4:29PM, Angoose wrote:
More than 63k excess deaths from early March to the end of May.
Could any of those excess deaths be down to lockdown itself? Heart attacks? Cancer? Loneliness?
Jun 11, 2020 -- 4:59PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
Just another case of Tory under investment in the NHS
Record amounts into the NHS. Been operating way under capacity for months now.
Road traffic, etc etc
Never been built into model,.. Yet
Jun 11, 2020 -- 5:05PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:
Excess deaths should be down with folk in lockdownRoad traffic, etc etcNever been built into model,.. Yet
1,800 RTA deaths a year compared to 100,000 heart attacks. Not sure you are comparing like with like.
Indeed... Even more excess down to corona
Jun 11, 2020 -- 4:56PM, Injera wrote:
Goose, I know a gent who’s gone blind in one eye because of cancelled treatment. That’s very serious but not a death. It gives an idea though of the carnage that’s been allowed to happen.
Sorry to hear that, and little doubt that cancelled treatments are causing real problems and fatalities now and storing them up for the future.
My father has had two MRI scans cancelled.
If you are interested, there was a report issued by the ONS just last week that is the first chapter in attempting to gain insight in to the high number of excess deaths.
The full effects will not be known for years to come, and even then there will be large elements of attribution.
Class sizes btw are yet another thing continental europe does better than us....about 5 pupils less.
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Last week 14 English schools reported acute respiratory outbreaks to Public Health England, 9 confirmed tested as Covid.
So last weeks increase to 15 not a one off (0-4 in previous lockdown weeks, normally 0 in June in previous years
