white liberals and black voters

Are you pointing out that BLM can't trust "white" democrat politicians to deliver equal treatment and equal justice?


I'll give you the respect and benefit of the doubt and assume that you've done some objective research,(even though you don't mention it for some odd reason)
SO you will have come to the conclusion that BLM can't trust "white" republican politicians to deliver equal treatment and equal justice either.


So if you're reasonably intelligent, you'll be able to work out why they are lots of people protesting on the streets recently.

I'm pointing out what's been obvious to me from day 1 - that white liberals, SJWs, and the white elites (Democrats) don't give a flying f*** about black lives.

They are the real racists here, a sinister form of patronising, sneering, moral-high ground taking racism that allows them to lecture black people on their oppression,
and in the case of the elites, to win their votes.

That's a rather sweeping generalisation, isn't it.

I think it was pointed out on here that 0.2% of the population protested. That shows how much most of us actually care I think.

Do you only care if you join a public demonstration ?

Platini,


Politician are lying two faced self serving people, that is not news.


What's your actual point and is it relevant?

if so, say why is it relevant?

but still clinton in power wouldve been so much better than that joker trump

a generalisation is by its nature 'sweeping'.

blm say nowt when black people kill black people, as they do in huge numbers in all major u.s. cities. those lives dont matter. nor do the lives of those killed by police in the windies, in numbers that are 50 times worse than the u.s. jamaican police appear even more racist.

fyi 25% of people killed by u.s. plod are black, and blm will say the black population is 13%. but 39% of murders and 55% of robberies are committed by black people, so they are far more likely to end up in custody. so, its contact with plod that should be looked at, not absolute numbers, and by that criterion, blm have no case.

nobody can deliver equality. there are some in society that will excel in certain areas, and some in others. should there be a quota for non-black sports people? those of asian origin are over-represented in medicine and accountancy. jewish people in law and performing arts. chinese people in i.t. you could go on and on. trying to achieve an exact balance is impossible and undesirable.

all you can do is attain equality of opportunity, which the u.s. does better than most. obarmy was a nobody with no money and place in the political squirearchy, yet he became a 2-term president. this would never have happened anywhere else.

all the garbage you watch on telly, all the gadgets you use, all the drivel you post online was created by people free to exercise their imagination and unrestricted by govt. interference. why didnt russia or china or india come up with apple or microsoft or twitter,etc?


and to answer your question, im reasonably intelligent, and can well understand why people are 'protesting on the streets recently'. they are fools.

Indeed Angoose I think a lot that were there couldnt care less but just like "being part of something". So the true number is lower.

Some forumites here must have a box set of the Black & White Minstrel show stashed away in their cupboard.

Economically deprived people commit more crime, this is true of all people everywhere. True in my city of Newcatle upon Tyne...true everywhere.  Blacks commit more crime as they are the most economically deprived not because they are badder than anyone else.

Some forumites here will aslo have heavily thumbed copies of Charles Murray's The Bell Curve as well as those box sets of The Black & White Minstrel Show.

i was thinking that the other day, people who just go along for the ride but couldnt care less, it was a nasty killing by a nasty cop and he will spend a lot of time in the slammer

Cardinal, you're right its not cos they're badder. Its their culture thats the issue.
A culture that means they are far far more likely to grow up in fatherless homes
A culture that sneers at educational achievement and prefers to glorify gangs, guns, crime and violence.

The Chicago stats are evidence enough, but there are plenty more examples.

bollox you moron. most of the crooks ive known are very comfy, tyvm. there are huge numbers of poor people worldwide, and few commit random murder. the majority of poor people in the u.s. are not black, but they seem to get by without killing people. there are half a million! rapes in south africa every year. how does that tally with economic deprivation?

still, shouldnt expect anything sensible from a geordie as the north easterner is a brit of very little brain

A culture that sneers at educational achievement and prefers to glorify gangs, guns, crime and violence.


...yeah...uhm...

Democratic White House candidate Joe Biden is in damage limitation mode after saying African Americans "ain't black" if they even consider voting for President Donald Trump over him.

Gaffe-prone Mr Biden made the remark in an interview on Friday with a prominent black radio host, Charlamagne Tha God, about his outreach to black voters.

Mr Biden later expressed regret for the "cavalier" comment.

Jun 10, 2020 -- 10:39PM, grappler wrote:

bollox you moron. most of the crooks ive known are very comfy, tyvm. there are huge numbers of poor people worldwide, and few commit random murder. the majority of poor people in the u.s. are not black, but they seem to get by without killing people. there are half a million! rapes in south africa every year. how does that tally with economic deprivation? still, shouldnt expect anything sensible from a geordie as the north easterner is a brit of very little brain

Go and boil your head!

ang on, youve turned into a scotsman

ffs grappler ye grand ol' quisling. No besmirching and belittling your countrymen when you have a German right at your disposal. Unity, dude!

if you were a richtig deutscher mann you wouldnt be wasting your time in this degraded country. cant wait for this carnivorous bollox to end so i can get back on me bicycle and get cycling down the rhine again. done most of it.

If you hate this "degraded country" so much, why don't you just leave?

For good, not just for a holiday near the rhine.

because business and family are here and neither will move. but i have a plan....

The UK is a wonderful country. Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, no country is, but damn fine nonetheless. Calling it degraded is just wrong and completely classless.

Many of the most respected and beloved institutions the world has ever seen are from the UK. From Oxbridge, to the BBC as the most respected news organisation of the entire planet, to the Rolling Stones and Mr. Bean.

There is no country the size of the UK that has positively influenced the world as much as the UK has and continues to do.

austria

smaller yet even more wonderful, who would deny that?

anything's possible, i read it somewhere

shut up you bore. dont try to be mr.understandingandreasonablegerman.

What do you mean "try to be"?

And hey there jolly!

Grappler, what makes the UK so degraded in your opinion?

Edy; 'There is no country the size of the UK that has positively influenced the world as much as the UK has and continues to do.'

youve been reading my posts, but you had to ruin it by mentioning the strolling bones and mr.bean. cannot think of two worse examples. anyone who enjoys either is mentally defective

What music/bands and TV shows do you enjoy?

Edy, you lost me at BBC

but won me back at Rolling Stones

Wheter you like them personally or not, the BBC simply is, by far, the most well-respected, jealousy-inducing broadcaster and news organisation on the planet.

neither. havent had a telly for 6 years and the ramblings of ignorant illiterate adolescent pop pansies are of no interest, but amazingly popular. how anyone takes these wanchors seriously i simply dont know. it is pure noise, and utter bollox. i recommend the 'rest is noise', by alex ross. if you can read

it's well respected much more outside of the UK than it is in the UK.

In the UK most find as the years have gone by it has become more and more less relevant and less important, which it has because of mass media and more choices.

It is also disliked by many inside the UK because of the Television license which a lot of people resent, a recent pool showed 60% of people want it scrapped whilst half believe it does not provide value for money. Depends how you look at, works out to around 40p a day, but if you do not watch the BBC at all than it's very poor value, most people I know barely watch it. It's been replaced by the growth of the internet, Netflix, youtube etc. It's not longer the go to source of info and entertainment it once was, a TV tax is very dated and that's partly why it's valued more outside of the UK than in because you don't pay for use of the BBC overseas, it's free.

A good example is their prime time TV slot, which is still predominantly Eastenders most days of the week, they had some episodes near on 30 million 30 years ago, around 15-20 years ago averaging 12-15 mil, now it's around 5 mil, one episode last summer something like 1.6 mil tuned in.

They are not irrelevant, but in this day and age you should not be forced to pay for them which everyone who wants a tv, which is everyone, does.

Their sports offering are also quite poor, hence the recent promoting of women's sports when previously they did not care.

When I was in 5th grade, during one of my earliest English lessons, I wrote "i". The teacher promtly scolded me, or at least the way she phrased it sounded really mean to me. Since that moment, every time I see someone write "i" instead of "I", it brings back those horrible memories in an instant flashback. It haunts me.

promptly

Yeah, Darren, I got the feeling on here that the BBC is not universally adored in the UK. Though I also assume that fringers are probably heavily overrepresented on this forum and the general public, while they might not like the TV license and watch the BBC all that much, are not nearly as critical, and often abusive, towards the BBC as this forum could make one believe.

So your sing black people are deprived than white people in Newcastle? There are some pritty big shqtholes in Newcastle where white people live yes that cesspit up the hill as you come off the 69 and head towards the city centre is rough but I have seen worse places where deprived white people live

It's not so much the content or the politics side of things with the BBC, it really is mostly the tv tax, as each year goes by it stands out more and more because of where we are in technological progression, it's just very dated, if TV was starting today, you'd never introduce such a thing, which is why it's hanging on, think it will receive far less criticism the day it goes it's own way. Maybe not on here thought lol.

Thanks, Darren! My perspective is partly formed from a similar situation in Germany. With Das Erste (plus its regional subnetworks) and the ZDF we have to major BBC-like entities that are also financed through a monthly payment tv license thing (€17.50 per month per household). People aren't really keen on that either, especially if they feel that they watch those channels comparatively little. I feel like in the end, even if they might bemoan the costs, they often still appreciate the existence of the channels, or at least don't mind it all too much.

The heavy criticism and abuse, the kind you regularly see on here, mostly really comes from the fringes in Germany. Predominantly the weirdo conspiracy loving victimhood loon fringe of the right-wing.