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They want to be heard but who will listen now?
They sure know how to drum up public support don't they.
Winkers!
They sure know how to drum up public support don't they.
Winkers!
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I think a lot have heard.
Remember, this started because a police officer killed someone while his colleagues stood off, watching and no action was taken against them. Since the protests they've all been charged.
Remember, this started because a police officer killed someone while his colleagues stood off, watching and no action was taken against them. Since the protests they've all been charged.
And they are now wreaking havoc in cities and gathering in crowds possibly trashing efforts to defeat covid19 because ???
Yes, a lot have heard but, I repeat, who will listen?
Yes, a lot have heard but, I repeat, who will listen?
They've nothing but untruths and incitement to racial hatred
Scumbags who WANT to believe blacks are oppressed haven't got the sense to see they are sh!tting on black people who've worked hard to get anywhere in life,forcing a fake mindset of oppression and open racism against whites to the next generations with solutions being violence and victimism,how can this benefit anyone? why is this being supported?
Arrests have been made in respect of Floyd.
Seriously, what more are they expecting to achieve by the protests? Can someone confirm?
I expect to the vast majority they are achieving nothing more than potentially spreading the virus and perpetrating violence and criminal damage. Basically, several counts of breaking the law.
The slavery they are referring to has ended. There have been many terrible acts in history that every sane person would condemn but what a state we would be in if everyone decided they couldn't move forward.
Patel has described what happened as disgraceful but what does she intend to do to stop it happening again? Words are not going to stop these people. They probably think they are in control.
Seriously, what more are they expecting to achieve by the protests? Can someone confirm?
I expect to the vast majority they are achieving nothing more than potentially spreading the virus and perpetrating violence and criminal damage. Basically, several counts of breaking the law.
The slavery they are referring to has ended. There have been many terrible acts in history that every sane person would condemn but what a state we would be in if everyone decided they couldn't move forward.
Patel has described what happened as disgraceful but what does she intend to do to stop it happening again? Words are not going to stop these people. They probably think they are in control.
Words are not going to stop these people. They probably think they are in control.
Agree,they wrongly think they're in the right as well
Agree,they wrongly think they're in the right as well
Patel has described what happened as disgraceful but what does she intend to do to stop it happening again? Words are not going to stop these people.
Golly gosh, we are in agreement!
Golly gosh, we are in agreement!
Thick ignorant foooks on these marches , no interest in CO-VID majority under 30 , they dont care about spreading it
what about the ones running the country? Did not do a great job of stopping planes coming in from China, America, Italy and Spain?
Seems plenty of Govs had problems dealing with it Nicola a fine a example Country with the 2nd worse death rate in the world and
She had 3 weeks on England , dont hear alot about her do we ?? Any thoughts ??
She had 3 weeks on England , dont hear alot about her do we ?? Any thoughts ??
I,d imagine your talking to probably 99/100% white audience,there,s 100,s out there protesting in towns up and down the country,why don't you get out there and explain to them the error of their ways and why they don't understand, 
i am not taking sides here but i dont condone the violence against the police. however please can someone explain what the protest was for.i get the man killed in america.that was wrong.but why pick and choose who and when protests for certain cases? surely every carriage of misjustice should be represented
The BBC describe Floyd as "an unarmed black man". Looking at his record it would also be fair to describe him as "a violent serial criminal". Of such things are perceptions made.
ffs that's the point,police in usa think all black men are violent serial criminals and ask questions later
Jun 8, 2020 -- 2:10PM, Foinavon wrote:
The BBC describe Floyd as "an unarmed black man". Looking at his record it would also be fair to describe him as "a violent serial criminal". Of such things are perceptions made.
Irrelevant. Once you are face down and handcuffed it is a matter for the courts and a jury of your peers. I'm not advocating the no-peaceful protests in any way, but I can not stand his criminal record being brought into this.
It's not relevant to him being killed. It is relevant to him being described as a "gentle giant" and people advocating a street be named after him.
ffs that's the point,police in usa think all black men are violent serial criminals and ask questions later
I very much doubt that's true although they would have known it was true of Floyd. The officers have been arrested and will appear in court so what they did will be judged.
I very much doubt that's true although they would have known it was true of Floyd. The officers have been arrested and will appear in court so what they did will be judged.
His high school are naming a scholarship after him.
That is a great idea.
His criminal past is irrelevant to what happened to him.
Lets hope others have similar understandings to complexity around these issues.
There is good and bad in everyone.
That is a great idea.
His criminal past is irrelevant to what happened to him.
Lets hope others have similar understandings to complexity around these issues.
There is good and bad in everyone.
lets put it this way black people in usa bring their kids up telling them that's how the police see/judge them
Jun 8, 2020 -- 2:17PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:
It's not relevant to him being killed. It is relevant to him being described as a "gentle giant" and people advocating a street be named after him.
It's not really the man they want a street named after. He is now and forever destined to be a symbol of racial inequality in the USA.
i am not taking sides here but i dont condone the violence against the police. however please can someone explain what the protest was for
I think it is because many people still have attitudes like this
The BBC describe Floyd as "an unarmed black man". Looking at his record it would also be fair to describe him as "a violent serial criminal". Of such things are perceptions made.
Seeing and hearing a grown man call for his mother before he is murdered was shocking enough for us on this side of the the Atlantic. The sad thing is not uncommon and when it is the Police doing the murdering we are even more shocked. It is as if America allows this murdering of its own people. It is not just black people that the American Police murder. They murder white people too and are out of control.
People are not picking and choosing. They are just appalled and want to show and encourage Americans they are right to protest and fight for change. Our Prime Minister has not said anything about it to his friend Donald Chump
I think it is because many people still have attitudes like this
The BBC describe Floyd as "an unarmed black man". Looking at his record it would also be fair to describe him as "a violent serial criminal". Of such things are perceptions made.
Seeing and hearing a grown man call for his mother before he is murdered was shocking enough for us on this side of the the Atlantic. The sad thing is not uncommon and when it is the Police doing the murdering we are even more shocked. It is as if America allows this murdering of its own people. It is not just black people that the American Police murder. They murder white people too and are out of control.
People are not picking and choosing. They are just appalled and want to show and encourage Americans they are right to protest and fight for change. Our Prime Minister has not said anything about it to his friend Donald Chump
It's not really the man they want a street named after. He is now and forever destined to be a symbol of racial inequality in the USA.
And at some point in the future people will question whether streets should be named after a convicted armed robber.
Have they mentioned the stats on police killings of black v white yet?
It's not an attitude, WD it is as I said a perception. Was he not a violent serial criminal? His record suggests he was. Murder implies intent. There may have been intent we don't know. There will be a trial and a verdict will be given.
pulling down the statue of a historical slave trader is fair game,ok,because in his past he did wrong.
naming a street after an armed robber is ok though because it was in his past?
please explain?
naming a street after an armed robber is ok though because it was in his past?
please explain?
I think it is also an attitude foinavon. ......he must have done something wrong. he deserved it, no smoke without fire. It is irrelevant.
In America black people are faced with this every day of their lives. If they get stopped in a car they know they are at risk of being shot dead. It happens and is allowed to happen. Cops also shoot people because they looked like someone and because they were scared. It is appalling and needs calling out not defended because the victim was a scumbag.
As for murder implies intent. I agree with you. When you kneel on someone's neck for nearly 9 minutes and you see the life draining out of him after he desperately pleads he cannot breathe and calling for his momma is an indication that you might be killing him. To me it implies he intended to kill him and I hope to God the jury see it that way too.
In America black people are faced with this every day of their lives. If they get stopped in a car they know they are at risk of being shot dead. It happens and is allowed to happen. Cops also shoot people because they looked like someone and because they were scared. It is appalling and needs calling out not defended because the victim was a scumbag.
As for murder implies intent. I agree with you. When you kneel on someone's neck for nearly 9 minutes and you see the life draining out of him after he desperately pleads he cannot breathe and calling for his momma is an indication that you might be killing him. To me it implies he intended to kill him and I hope to God the jury see it that way too.
naming a street after an armed robber is ok though because it was in his past?
please explain?
No explanation needed nineteen. It is pretty stupid.
please explain?
No explanation needed nineteen. It is pretty stupid.
Why isn't there more comment or focus on black v black crimes ?
He had been arrested and restrained, this implies he may have done something wrong, nothing more. It certainly didn't imply that he deserved to die.
The BBC description implies that he was an ordinary bloke picked on at random by the police just because he was black. They add justification to the riots.
The BBC description implies that he was an ordinary bloke picked on at random by the police just because he was black. They add justification to the riots.
Jun 8, 2020 -- 3:21PM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:
Why isn't there more comment or focus on black v black crimes ?
For what reason does this need to be discussed at the minute?
nineteen points
please explain?
It's called symbolism.
Did you see Trump Holding up the bible in front of the church?
Why did he do that?
Was it because he's deeply religious? No, it's because he understands the importance and power of symbols.
Many people are not able to understand multiple sentences to assess and think about the pertinent facts in a logical manner.
So symbols are used as a way of trying to grab the moral high ground
This is where trump is beating the protesters hands down, their symbolism is crap, many people and many on here are rightly
questioning the sainthood bestowed on Floyd. Using him as a figure head is detracting from the underlying goal of equality
and equal justice for all.
If the protesters had all picked up the american flag and started singing the National Anthem and or recited the "We The People" section of the constitution whilst being tear gassed......
Well that would have been such a powerful use of symbolism, they would have grabbed the entire high ground and some...
America is so much more patriotic than the UK, no american could side with someone attacking the american flag.
please explain?
It's called symbolism.
Did you see Trump Holding up the bible in front of the church?
Why did he do that?
Was it because he's deeply religious? No, it's because he understands the importance and power of symbols.
Many people are not able to understand multiple sentences to assess and think about the pertinent facts in a logical manner.
So symbols are used as a way of trying to grab the moral high ground
This is where trump is beating the protesters hands down, their symbolism is crap, many people and many on here are rightly
questioning the sainthood bestowed on Floyd. Using him as a figure head is detracting from the underlying goal of equality
and equal justice for all.
If the protesters had all picked up the american flag and started singing the National Anthem and or recited the "We The People" section of the constitution whilst being tear gassed......
Well that would have been such a powerful use of symbolism, they would have grabbed the entire high ground and some...
America is so much more patriotic than the UK, no american could side with someone attacking the american flag.
Because this is more about the role of the Police. Black people do also need to take a long hard look at what is happening. BLM groups in New York will be setting up armed patrols to defend their communities from Police Assaults, which, has been demonstrated is quite common.
It will also be interesting ow they deal with the drugs gangs. Unfortunately black people have been deprived of decent education, medicare, the ability to move out of their ghetto's, their housing projects are also poor.
The rage that is felt in black communities is also being felt by underprivileged white communities too so perhaps that is why you see many white people on these demonstrations. The American dream is turning into a nightmare for tens of millions. The rich and the privileged are taking too much out of the system for their own greed. The criminal justice system which has suppressed black people is also being used to suppress whites.
Watch and see. America will burn again. There is also an huge opioid epidemic sweeping poor white America. This will stop being about black and white and more about the rich v the dispossessed.
It will also be interesting ow they deal with the drugs gangs. Unfortunately black people have been deprived of decent education, medicare, the ability to move out of their ghetto's, their housing projects are also poor.
The rage that is felt in black communities is also being felt by underprivileged white communities too so perhaps that is why you see many white people on these demonstrations. The American dream is turning into a nightmare for tens of millions. The rich and the privileged are taking too much out of the system for their own greed. The criminal justice system which has suppressed black people is also being used to suppress whites.
Watch and see. America will burn again. There is also an huge opioid epidemic sweeping poor white America. This will stop being about black and white and more about the rich v the dispossessed.
America is so much more patriotic than the UK, no american could side with someone attacking the american flag.
I think you will see the American flag being burnt on protests more and more
I think you will see the American flag being burnt on protests more and more
...because it's a key element of making black lives better...
we all no treason may and the tories wanted to knock Grenfell tower as quick as possible ,its a symbol they and the rich side of the street don't want leaving as a reminder
Jun 8, 2020 -- 3:33PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:
Because this is more about the role of the Police. Black people do also need to take a long hard look at what is happening. BLM groups in New York will be setting up armed patrols to defend their communities from Police Assaults, which, has been demonstrated is quite common.It will also be interesting ow they deal with the drugs gangs. Unfortunately black people have been deprived of decent education, medicare, the ability to move out of their ghetto's, their housing projects are also poor.The rage that is felt in black communities is also being felt by underprivileged white communities too so perhaps that is why you see many white people on these demonstrations. The American dream is turning into a nightmare for tens of millions. The rich and the privileged are taking too much out of the system for their own greed. The criminal justice system which has suppressed black people is also being used to suppress whites.Watch and see. America will burn again. There is also an huge opioid epidemic sweeping poor white America. This will stop being about black and white and more about the rich v the dispossessed.
The white people on the demos appear to be middle class university students and lecturer types.
Fair enough Johnny but that is largely a matter for black Americans to sort out to a large degree. If White America can't sort out the police killing black America I don't know how they can sort out black v black crime.
One thing at a time mate.
One thing at a time mate.
They have a huge middle class. They call anyone who works the middle class. The point is that many of these white poeple who are not born into privilege and money face poorer and poorer prospects. If you lose your job you lose medical insurance. Can you imagine if you had no insurance and Mrs Trader needed medicines. One Drug Company sells an aids tablet for $1,000 in America and $8 in Australia. The drug companies are also protected from prosecution in many ways.
The rich get richer and are protected by the law and the poor end up defenceless and prosecuted by the law
The rich get richer and are protected by the law and the poor end up defenceless and prosecuted by the law
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Jun 8, 2020 -- 2:21PM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:
Why isn't there more comment or focus on black v black crimes ?
For what reason does this need to be discussed at the minute?
That will be white man's fault as well oppressing the black population on a daily basis.
Jun 8, 2020 -- 2:21PM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:
Why isn't there more comment or focus on black v black crimes ?
For what reason does this need to be discussed at the minute?
That will be white man's fault as well oppressing the black population on a daily basis.
"I think you will see the American flag being burnt on protests more and more"
Good guess, I know If I was trump I would employ a few people to do that at the protests.
It would be game over.
People rally behind symbols, they get processed by a different part of the brain than words and can be much more emotive than most speeches.
Who ever uses the better symbols wins the game
Good guess, I know If I was trump I would employ a few people to do that at the protests.
It would be game over.
People rally behind symbols, they get processed by a different part of the brain than words and can be much more emotive than most speeches.
Who ever uses the better symbols wins the game
Black America cannot sort out the police. It has to be done by change in law and attitudes.
to a point Escapee. America would also not tolerate a President who could not keep the peace or a President who would use soldiers against its own citizens. I think that would be game over for Chump too. He has now boasted he is the Law and Order president. As I have stated before Riots are usually a summer sport. August and September are very very hot in America. If America burns this summer Chump may get the blame with voters.
At the moment the peaceful protesters are having it their way. There are many groups right and left who want to ferment chaos. Once the genie is out of the bottle is it hard to put back
At the moment the peaceful protesters are having it their way. There are many groups right and left who want to ferment chaos. Once the genie is out of the bottle is it hard to put back
time we had some equality in the Olympics .... the blacks keep winning the gold medals in the sprints ...that can't be right 
People rally behind symbols, they get processed by a different part of the brain than words and can be much more emotive than most speeches.
Who ever uses the better symbols wins the game
is this why US pigs and more and more UK pigs do not display the correct flag of their country but a desecrated one with the thin blue line, who allowed this, are they ashamed or is it a gang emblem.
Who ever uses the better symbols wins the game
is this why US pigs and more and more UK pigs do not display the correct flag of their country but a desecrated one with the thin blue line, who allowed this, are they ashamed or is it a gang emblem.
I admire what they do however, not during the pandemic and flouting social distancing which might have consequences on others they might be in contact with; looting was unforgivable. The destruction of the statue of a prolific former slaver was understandable.
I wonder how many were also using the protest as a demonstration against Brexit and government's handling of Covid-19.
I wonder how many were also using the protest as a demonstration against Brexit and government's handling of Covid-19.
Invicta,
Your reference to a farm animal... well you didn't make that up, you've subconsciously adopted a symbol, not one I am
comfortable with. But you see the power of the symbol?
The other symbol: google thin blue line and you will find out that it is used to align the police with patriotism and
hence questioning police methods is questioning the whole Land Of the Free thing.
Symbols are where you win or lose.
A farm animal symbol is never going to win the moral high ground
Your reference to a farm animal... well you didn't make that up, you've subconsciously adopted a symbol, not one I am
comfortable with. But you see the power of the symbol?
The other symbol: google thin blue line and you will find out that it is used to align the police with patriotism and
hence questioning police methods is questioning the whole Land Of the Free thing.
Symbols are where you win or lose.
A farm animal symbol is never going to win the moral high ground
The symbolism is important but who controls the media?
Google something you want to find out about and it takes you to a preferred sellers list. News can be manipulated in this way too. 1984 is getting nearer and nearer. The people with the money have an inordinate amount of influence and power. These people can demand a meeting with a President or Prime Minister.
I believe Mittal the Steel Magnate got the President of Indonesia to drive to his hotel near the airport!
Google something you want to find out about and it takes you to a preferred sellers list. News can be manipulated in this way too. 1984 is getting nearer and nearer. The people with the money have an inordinate amount of influence and power. These people can demand a meeting with a President or Prime Minister.
I believe Mittal the Steel Magnate got the President of Indonesia to drive to his hotel near the airport!
PorcupineorPineapple 08 Jun 20 10:12
I think a lot have heard.
Remember, this started because a police officer killed someone while his colleagues stood off, watching and no action was taken against them. Since the protests they've all been charged.
...........................
Charged days ago, job done. So why are they still wrecking stuff and attacking UK police? I'm sure you'll think of something.
I think a lot have heard.
Remember, this started because a police officer killed someone while his colleagues stood off, watching and no action was taken against them. Since the protests they've all been charged.
...........................
Charged days ago, job done. So why are they still wrecking stuff and attacking UK police? I'm sure you'll think of something.
"Churchill woz a raysist cos he only fought the war to protect the empire".
That clowns parents would have been in the gas chambers in a twinkling along with the Jews, gypsies, gay types and every other "non-believer". Black lives matter... too bad black intelligence doesn't.
That clowns parents would have been in the gas chambers in a twinkling along with the Jews, gypsies, gay types and every other "non-believer". Black lives matter... too bad black intelligence doesn't.
Milo putting the record straight.
https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/7532
https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/7532
Milo nails the crux of it in his final statement
"Black lives don't matter to BLM"
"Black lives don't matter to BLM"
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