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I think a lot have heard.
Remember, this started because a police officer killed someone while his colleagues stood off, watching and no action was taken against them. Since the protests they've all been charged. |
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And they are now wreaking havoc in cities and gathering in crowds possibly trashing efforts to defeat covid19 because ???
Yes, a lot have heard but, I repeat, who will listen? |
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I'm no racist but I have no time for those people.
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They've nothing but untruths and incitement to racial hatred
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Scumbags who WANT to believe blacks are oppressed haven't got the sense to see they are sh!tting on black people who've worked hard to get anywhere in life,forcing a fake mindset of oppression and open racism against whites to the next generations with solutions being violence and victimism,how can this benefit anyone? why is this being supported?
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Arrests have been made in respect of Floyd.
Seriously, what more are they expecting to achieve by the protests? Can someone confirm? I expect to the vast majority they are achieving nothing more than potentially spreading the virus and perpetrating violence and criminal damage. Basically, several counts of breaking the law. The slavery they are referring to has ended. There have been many terrible acts in history that every sane person would condemn but what a state we would be in if everyone decided they couldn't move forward. Patel has described what happened as disgraceful but what does she intend to do to stop it happening again? Words are not going to stop these people. They probably think they are in control. |
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Words are not going to stop these people. They probably think they are in control.
Agree,they wrongly think they're in the right as well |
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Patel has described what happened as disgraceful but what does she intend to do to stop it happening again? Words are not going to stop these people.
Golly gosh, we are in agreement! |
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Thick ignorant foooks on these marches , no interest in CO-VID majority under 30 , they dont care about spreading it
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what about the ones running the country? Did not do a great job of stopping planes coming in from China, America, Italy and Spain?
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Seems plenty of Govs had problems dealing with it Nicola a fine a example Country with the 2nd worse death rate in the world and
She had 3 weeks on England , dont hear alot about her do we ?? Any thoughts ?? |
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Well theres a surprise .....
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I,d imagine your talking to probably 99/100% white audience,there,s 100,s out there protesting in towns up and down the country,why don't you get out there and explain to them the error of their ways and why they don't understand,
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i am not taking sides here but i dont condone the violence against the police. however please can someone explain what the protest was for.i get the man killed in america.that was wrong.but why pick and choose who and when protests for certain cases? surely every carriage of misjustice should be represented
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The BBC describe Floyd as "an unarmed black man". Looking at his record it would also be fair to describe him as "a violent serial criminal". Of such things are perceptions made.
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ffs that's the point,police in usa think all black men are violent serial criminals and ask questions later
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It's not relevant to him being killed. It is relevant to him being described as a "gentle giant" and people advocating a street be named after him.
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ffs that's the point,police in usa think all black men are violent serial criminals and ask questions later
I very much doubt that's true although they would have known it was true of Floyd. The officers have been arrested and will appear in court so what they did will be judged. |
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His high school are naming a scholarship after him.
That is a great idea. His criminal past is irrelevant to what happened to him. Lets hope others have similar understandings to complexity around these issues. There is good and bad in everyone. |
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lets put it this way black people in usa bring their kids up telling them that's how the police see/judge them
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i am not taking sides here but i dont condone the violence against the police. however please can someone explain what the protest was for
I think it is because many people still have attitudes like this The BBC describe Floyd as "an unarmed black man". Looking at his record it would also be fair to describe him as "a violent serial criminal". Of such things are perceptions made. Seeing and hearing a grown man call for his mother before he is murdered was shocking enough for us on this side of the the Atlantic. The sad thing is not uncommon and when it is the Police doing the murdering we are even more shocked. It is as if America allows this murdering of its own people. It is not just black people that the American Police murder. They murder white people too and are out of control. People are not picking and choosing. They are just appalled and want to show and encourage Americans they are right to protest and fight for change. Our Prime Minister has not said anything about it to his friend Donald Chump |
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It's not really the man they want a street named after. He is now and forever destined to be a symbol of racial inequality in the USA. And at some point in the future people will question whether streets should be named after a convicted armed robber. |
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Have they mentioned the stats on police killings of black v white yet?
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Please tell us the stats
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It's not an attitude, WD it is as I said a perception. Was he not a violent serial criminal? His record suggests he was. Murder implies intent. There may have been intent we don't know. There will be a trial and a verdict will be given.
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pulling down the statue of a historical slave trader is fair game,ok,because in his past he did wrong.
naming a street after an armed robber is ok though because it was in his past? please explain? |
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I think it is also an attitude foinavon. ......he must have done something wrong. he deserved it, no smoke without fire. It is irrelevant.
In America black people are faced with this every day of their lives. If they get stopped in a car they know they are at risk of being shot dead. It happens and is allowed to happen. Cops also shoot people because they looked like someone and because they were scared. It is appalling and needs calling out not defended because the victim was a scumbag. As for murder implies intent. I agree with you. When you kneel on someone's neck for nearly 9 minutes and you see the life draining out of him after he desperately pleads he cannot breathe and calling for his momma is an indication that you might be killing him. To me it implies he intended to kill him and I hope to God the jury see it that way too. |
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naming a street after an armed robber is ok though because it was in his past?
please explain? No explanation needed nineteen. It is pretty stupid. |
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Why isn't there more comment or focus on black v black crimes ?
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He had been arrested and restrained, this implies he may have done something wrong, nothing more. It certainly didn't imply that he deserved to die.
The BBC description implies that he was an ordinary bloke picked on at random by the police just because he was black. They add justification to the riots. |
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please explain? It's called symbolism. Did you see Trump Holding up the bible in front of the church? Why did he do that? Was it because he's deeply religious? No, it's because he understands the importance and power of symbols. Many people are not able to understand multiple sentences to assess and think about the pertinent facts in a logical manner. So symbols are used as a way of trying to grab the moral high ground This is where trump is beating the protesters hands down, their symbolism is crap, many people and many on here are rightly questioning the sainthood bestowed on Floyd. Using him as a figure head is detracting from the underlying goal of equality and equal justice for all. If the protesters had all picked up the american flag and started singing the National Anthem and or recited the "We The People" section of the constitution whilst being tear gassed...... Well that would have been such a powerful use of symbolism, they would have grabbed the entire high ground and some... America is so much more patriotic than the UK, no american could side with someone attacking the american flag. |
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Because this is more about the role of the Police. Black people do also need to take a long hard look at what is happening. BLM groups in New York will be setting up armed patrols to defend their communities from Police Assaults, which, has been demonstrated is quite common.
It will also be interesting ow they deal with the drugs gangs. Unfortunately black people have been deprived of decent education, medicare, the ability to move out of their ghetto's, their housing projects are also poor. The rage that is felt in black communities is also being felt by underprivileged white communities too so perhaps that is why you see many white people on these demonstrations. The American dream is turning into a nightmare for tens of millions. The rich and the privileged are taking too much out of the system for their own greed. The criminal justice system which has suppressed black people is also being used to suppress whites. Watch and see. America will burn again. There is also an huge opioid epidemic sweeping poor white America. This will stop being about black and white and more about the rich v the dispossessed. |
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America is so much more patriotic than the UK, no american could side with someone attacking the american flag.
I think you will see the American flag being burnt on protests more and more |
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...because it's a key element of making black lives better...
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we all no treason may and the tories wanted to knock Grenfell tower as quick as possible ,its a symbol they and the rich side of the street don't want leaving as a reminder
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