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By:
therhino
When: 08 Jun 20 11:44

Jun 8, 2020 -- 11:41AM, InsiderTrader wrote:


To my mind taking down statues of historical figures without consent of the majority of the population is wrong.I could see a case for this man statue being taken down if that is what the majority in Bristol wanted.I could see a case for Churchill being taken take if that is what the majority of the country wanted.The idea that groups of thugs trash grade 2 historical monuments just because they feel like it is wrong in my view.


I agree with the premise but to say 'just because they feel like it' is making light of the current state of play in my view. I do acknowledge though there are plenty of idiots out there taking advantage of the climate to simply go and be idiots.

By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Jun 20 11:46
I didn't see a single person trying to save statue of colston

It's been wrapped in bin bags for months,


Tories today saying statue removal is up to local mayors

Let's get on with it.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 08 Jun 20 11:49
We've got a slavery museum up here. If his fans want to lift the statue up we've got a more natural home for it.



Looking forward to the next referendum btw to determine if the majority of the population think Ken Dodd's statue in Line Street should be removed.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 08 Jun 20 11:51
Is this going to limited just direct slave traders? Or anyone that profited from it?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 08 Jun 20 12:00
Dunno
By:
aaronh
When: 08 Jun 20 12:02
no ethical consumption under capitalism innit
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 08 Jun 20 12:02
A lot of towns like Bristol, Liverpool, London etc was built on slave trading cash that went on to finance the industrial revolution. Throughout that time we had child labour and terrible conditions for all workers. Most of the historical wealth of all nations was built on blood.
By:
Fire-and-Ice
When: 08 Jun 20 12:03
If you feel guilt, sell your stuff and donate to some black charity.
DO something
Stop B1tching.
Cuz b1tching is ALL that you do.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 08 Jun 20 12:04
Or give your money to fight modern slavery in North Africa and the Middle East.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 08 Jun 20 12:07
Or call for education so that people understand and learn more about our history.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 08 Jun 20 12:10
Agree that we should teach it but it most be in context that all nations including the African countries the slaves were taken from had slavery. Throughout history up to the time the Brtish banned slavery it was everywhere.
By:
1st time poster
When: 08 Jun 20 12:10
rather ironic that those cleaning the Churchill statue ,put it on their twitter/facebook feed that aligned them with tommy robinson ans London mayoral candidate sean baily who originally thanked them and retweeted their comments has now taken them of his social media feed,
wonder if doris will be thanking tommy for his lads cleaning his hero,s statue

so many people getting conflicted,praising/condeming actions depending on how they voted in reff/GE,

heard another young black lady giving her views on sky this morning and was surprised by her views,reactions to weekends events,then it came up on screen, she was thinking of standing for Brexit party,doesnt matter what subject people are discussing on media these days,you can tell their political leanings within seconds
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 08 Jun 20 12:16
Absolutely, bit the nature of schooling is you focus on the local more than the general. We don't spend a lot of time talking about the the rulers and politics of other countries, apart from the really big events.

So our education will focus on us and our acts. But in context of course. Just be truthful.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 08 Jun 20 12:22

Jun 8, 2020 -- 12:16PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


Absolutely, bit the nature of schooling is you focus on the local more than the general. We don't spend a lot of time talking about the the rulers and politics of other countries, apart from the really big events.So our education will focus on us and our acts. But in context of course. Just be truthful.


What if the truth does black people and the race division agenda no favours what then?

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 08 Jun 20 12:22
The guy that runs the school in Uganda my wife built was kidnapped and sold to be a child sacrifice 20 years ago. Luckily police on the Kenya-Uganda border stopped the car he was in the boot of.

So much horrific stuff continues to happen in Africa. After years of trying to help there I still have no clue what the answer is.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Jun 20 12:22
Should teach full context of slavery not your slanted view of it

Britain tried to monopolise the trade, other brits got it banned.

Compo was paid to slave owners but not to slaves

Brits paid taxes until 2014 to pay off the money borrowed to compensate slave traders
on abolition.

Windrush generation paid taxes to help pay of slavery debt
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 08 Jun 20 12:28
The truth on slavery isn't as favourable as the current accepted narrative that's why there is no open debate.
Similarly the truth on Police murder in the US by race isn't favourable so the facts are ignored and the debate isn't had.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Jun 20 12:39
There is a statue park in Budapest where a lot of
The communist regime statues are now housed.

It's quite a somber place, and part of the sad story
of soviet oppression

Part of history all the same.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 08 Jun 20 12:41

Jun 8, 2020 -- 12:39PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


There is a statue park in Budapest where a lot ofThe communist regime statues are now housed. It's quite a somber place, and part of the sad storyof soviet oppressionPart of history all the same.


Churchill and communist leaders like Stalin is a false comparison.

By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Jun 20 12:45
I ain't making comparison between Churchill and stalin

I am pointing out that a statue park exists in Budapest for unwanted statues.
By:
casemoney
When: 08 Jun 20 13:14
Just shows some of the thick ignorant c@nts you are dealing with on these marches ...........
By:
woundedknee
When: 08 Jun 20 13:20
Stephen Lawrence memorial in Eltham has cctv above it.. people have been arrested for defacing it....1.01 No arrests will be made over this FILTH graffiti
By:
casemoney
When: 08 Jun 20 13:26
Rumours was a women done the Deed , ask the c@nt what year the war ended ,I would take evens it would not know , as stated a load of silly thick foooks banging along with their placards , As for colston what was the force behind that ??
By:
flushgordon1
When: 08 Jun 20 14:15
Windrush generation came because a generation of young men were decimated by ww2 , almost 420000 young British men died to save us from facism.

Taxes? You fecking muppet Donny!
By:
Charlie
When: 08 Jun 20 14:23
10,000 people from the Caribbean joined British Armed Forces in WW2. 600,000 from Africa also did so.
By:
markzzz
When: 08 Jun 20 14:30
ISIS systematically destroyed thousands of the most precious archaeological sites and artifacts known to man. They were massively condemned for destroying such priceless and irreplaceable historic artifacts.

Their reasoning was that the sites and statues destroyed were sacrilegious to their beliefs.

Why does this make them any different to the scrotes who think that they can destroy and deface based solely on their own beliefs?
By:
macarony
When: 08 Jun 20 14:33
If it was not for Churchill the no only brown faces in Europe would be the ones waiting on tables. Dam that Churchill look what he's done.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Jun 20 14:33
If you can't see difference markzzz then there's not much point....
By:
macarony
When: 08 Jun 20 14:39
If you are going to pull a statue down of person who made money off the backs of others would you not be better off going after his decendents? I know it will be uncomfortable for most of the establishment including some people who claim to be progressive and whos education was indirectly paid for off the backs of others but anything less would be pointless would it not?
By:
flushgordon1
When: 08 Jun 20 14:42
I won’t kneel with the masses,
I won’t be told my fate,
By people who hijack tragedy,
To perpetuate their hate.

Don’t you shout Black Lives Matter,
Whilst running through the streets,
When your people are burning Foot Locker,
Stealing Nikes for their feet.

Don’t dance on The Cenotaph,
Like it’s Carnival or Mardi Gras,
That sacred granite edifice,
Marks people who died in war.

How dare you besiege Number 10,
This isn’t even our fight,
If you want to go and protest,
Get a 4,000 mile flight.

Social distancing flouted,
Police punched in the face,
Missiles hurled at Downing Street.,
This isn’t about race.

It’s rent-a-mob and anarchists,
Versus police led by lambs,
They just stand there and take it,
Lefty Cressida tied their hands.

Meanwhile America’s burning,
It’s a tragedy we all agree,
That George Floyd lost his life,
For all the world to see.

Justice must take its course,
The cop has lost his job,
Now he faces twelve good and true,
Not a braying mob.

So Monday I won’t be kneeling,
I won’t even bow my head,
Because someone I don’t even know,
Has wound up dead.

An armed robber and a felon,
In and out of jail,
As a model citizen,
He was a total fail.

I’ll weep for whom I choose to,
I’ll say where and when,
Not because a lifelong offender,
Bought it in the end.

I don’t condone the officers,
They rightly face the wrath,
But ask me to kneel for a criminal?
Don’t make me laugh.

You can keep your lefty rhetoric,
Your dismantling of our state,
It’s BLM not Middle England,
That’s peddling the hate.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 08 Jun 20 14:43
Under what law would you "go after" his descendants?
By:
flushgordon1
When: 08 Jun 20 14:48
Benedict Cumminbuckets family made money from?
By:
macarony
When: 08 Jun 20 15:02
The same law that allows a mob to vandalise public property.

Anyway wd you wouldn't be affected would you?
By:
Angoose
When: 08 Jun 20 15:09
By:
macarony
When: 08 Jun 20 15:13
Don't panic goose we all know you got no money they can't nail you for been a fantasist
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 08 Jun 20 15:25
Under what law would you "go after" his descendants?
whisperingdeath

there is no law...it would be an injustice
By:
macarony
When: 08 Jun 20 15:29
The truths coming out now a fewsm Rs doing 50p 20p
By:
happysandwich
When: 08 Jun 20 15:45
White Lives Matter too.

In March last year, 17-year-old Jodie Chesney was stabbed in the back and died in a park in Harold Hill, Romford.

It was an unprovoked attack on an innocent girl by a black person.


Bend your knee for Jodie – please.
By:
1st time poster
When: 08 Jun 20 16:02
in case their wearing gloves to hide the scars on theiur knuckles in the last few weeks ive noticed another way to recognise the loons,they start every answer with the words, WHAT ABOUT, Laugh
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 08 Jun 20 16:12
He was a druid? A top freemason. Not sure about racism? Black freemasons would be cconsidered brothers. Freemason oath supersedes all other loyalties. Even oaths to state.  Be free to google.  The V for victory salute is an old freemason symbol. Five. It salutes Lucifer.
Another top politician or king playing around with Satanism? Aprons.    Google kings of Europe and freemasons. Again... Their oath tells them that loyalty to their feplows and Lucifer supersedes all other loyalties.

Napoleon was a grand orient mason. His hand on heart waistcoat pose is freemason signalling. Googled freemason signals.
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