Will Johnson Seek To Emulate Bolsonaro ?

Can we expect daily figures only to be reported from Monday ?

Will Angoose, who apparently lives in Scotland, ever stop attacking the UK government, and use his (err) "Skills" to attack the Scottish government who are doing worse?

But he's NOT politically motivated of course. Just 100s/1000s of posts that are directed one way, zero the other? Odd.

Brazil is FAR more interesting apparently than his own back yard of things like nike coverups, outrageous care home death figures, and statistically shocking figures given population ratios and BAME ratios.

Word word word?

The Scottish government has a lot to answer for, and will do so in the fullness of time.
This will be the case for all governments in power in countries with poor records.

As is so often the case, public perception of situations is a far more powerful force than reality.
Reality itself being a somewhat abstract concept in any case.

In the same way that governments in power at the time of global economic booms benefit from the public perception that they were responsible for the increased prosperity, so do governments in power at the time of bad news suffer from perceptions that they were responsible.

Being out of power whilst tragic events are unfolding is often, in political terms, not a bad place to be.
A harsh reality of life.

not as harsh as being on the sidellines for years & years. Ask Starmer where he would rather be

A valid point, but you can't change the results of past elections.

What do you think public perception would be if the images of the Irish lad in Cork being repeatedly stabbed in the back by a black person, while cowering helpless on the ground with blood already gushing everywhere, and his chums filming attack and gleefully laughing along were reported in the same way as George Floyd.

The media controls the narrative and therefore the perception. Trump circumvented them using social media and the left are trying to cut him off from that too. Funnily enough the results at the ballot box don't often reflect the perception. Hence for example the youthquake nonsense being met with stark reality at 10pm that evening.

Jun 7, 2020 -- 7:03AM, Angoose wrote:

A valid point, but you can't change the results of past elections.

Millions spent three years trying to change the result of a past referendum though.

with more and more ministers not wanting to ridicule themselves presenting cummings lie fests
we have seen them cut to week days only.

comparison graphs were common until they highlited how badly cummings advice to sage was.

now johnson is left floundering telling us comparisons are unfair.

the totals of people tested have long since disappeared , sacrificed to two silly pledges made as
a gesture, and meaningless anyway except they became a totem.

Proper leadership with the Scottishers not a derelict charlatan like we have south of the border.

Jun 7, 2020 -- 7:16AM, Cider wrote:

What do you think public perception would be if the images of the Irish lad in Cork being repeatedly stabbed in the back by a black person, while cowering helpless on the ground with blood already gushing everywhere, and his chums filming attack and gleefully laughing along were reported in the same way as George Floyd.The media controls the narrative and therefore the perception. Trump circumvented them using social media and the left are trying to cut him off from that too. Funnily enough the results at the ballot box don't often reflect the perception. Hence for example the youthquake nonsense being met with stark reality at 10pm that evening.

But they don't go away still

They take more control of the net, more control of social media, more control of TV etc etc etc

It might what you think "the right" in the government but its the "left" taking control of absolutely everything

Jun 7, 2020 -- 8:28AM, Cardinal Scott wrote:

Proper leadership with the Scottishers not a derelict charlatan like we have south of the border.

We both had the same type of lockdown for the majority of it, we opened up 6 days earlier

Its utter tosh

no deaths ,
5 more in intensive care than yesterday

Some of the death stats are simply switching off life support.

It's a step in right direction all the same.

Jun 7, 2020 -- 8:28AM, Cardinal Scott wrote:

Proper leadership with the Scottishers not a derelict charlatan like we have south of the border.

Scotland has half the testing rate of England and more care home deaths doesn't it.

Yet another thread from angoose diverting attention away from the snp failings in Scotland on the day that another cover-up was revealed.

Brazil sows further confusion by releasing contradictory sets of COVID-19 data
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brazil

RIO DE JANEIRO (Reuters) - After removing cumulative numbers for how many people have died in Brazil of coronavirus from a national website, the government sowed further confusion and controversy by releasing two contradictory sets of figures for the latest tally of infection cases and fatalities.

Initially, data sent to journalists by the ministry on Sunday evening said Brazil now had a total death toll of 37,312 and total cases of 685,427. That meant, although the ministry did not break out these daily numbers, that in the previous 24 hours the country had registered 1,382 new deaths and 12,581 new cases.

But later on Sunday, the ministry updated its online data portal with completely different figures. The government website that publishes coronavirus data put the day’s dead at 525 and new cases at 18,912. It did not publish a cumulative total.

The Health Ministry did not respond to questions about the different numbers.

The divergence comes as the government over the weekend removed from public view months of national data on the epidemic, which critics said was another attempt at hiding the soaring death toll.

That followed a move last week to push back the release of the daily tally from around 5 p.m. to near 10 p.m, after the country’s main television news program has aired.

Far-right President Jair Bolsonaro has come under growing criticism for the way his government has handled the data and his general approach to the pandemic, which he has regularly played down and called “a little flu.”

Brazil is now one of the main epicenters of the global pandemic, with the second highest number of confirmed cases only behind the United States, and a death toll that last week surpassed Italy’s.

Judge orders Bolsonaro to resume publishing Brazil Covid-19 data
Move comes amid accusations government was trying to suppress the scale of the crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/09/judge-orders-bolsonaro-to-resume-publishing-brazil-covid-19-data

A Brazilian supreme court judge has ordered Jair Bolsonaro’s administration to resume publishing complete Covid-19 statistics after moves to suppress such information prompted accusations of authoritarian skulduggery designed to cover up the crisis.

The Brazilian government sparked outrage on Saturday by purging the health ministry website of historical data relating to the pandemic and announcing it would stop publishing the cumulative death toll or number of infections.

Officials claimed the changes would help “refine” official coronavirus data. But critics attacked what they called an illiberal ruse to conceal the severity of the pandemic’s impact in Brazil, where more than 37,000 lives have been lost.

Some drew parallels with the suppression of information in authoritarian countries such as North Korea and Venezuela while others recalled how Brazil’s own military regime had covered up a meningitis epidemic in the 1970s, with devastating consequences.

On Monday night, supreme court justice Alexandre de Moraes reportedly gave Bolsonaro’s administration a 48-hour deadline to begin releasing the full figures again each day, after a legal challenge from two opposition parties.

Randolfe Rodrigues, the opposition leader in the senate, celebrated the move. “The government will now be obliged to release the pandemic data, as before, without make-up or manipulation,” the senator tweeted.

On Monday, in the absence of comprehensive official statistics, a coalition of major Brazilian news outlets published their own tally of the country’s total number of Covid-19 deaths and infections: 37,312 and 710,887 respectively. Only the US has recorded more cases.

Bolsonaro continues to attack what he calls the media’s sensationalising of Covid-19, which he has called “a bit of a cold”.

At a televised cabinet meeting on Tuesday, Bolsonaro accused journalists of causing “panic” and seized on a comment from a World Health Organization official that the transmission of coronavirus by people with no symptoms could be “rare” as proof Brazil should be reopening.

“What we most want is to get back to normal and for the country to retake the path of prosperity,” Bolsonaro said.

One vocal ally, the citizenship minister, Onyx Lorenzoni, blamed media mendacity for exaggerating Brazil’s problems. “Whatever the government does, the extremist press always tries to create controversy or do down its work,” he told Bolsonaro.

“But I’m sure that with God in your heart and the truth that you always carry with you … you realise we will knock down these lies, one by one,” Lorenzoni added.

The latest row surrounding the president’s response to the pandemic comes as many key states, including São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, start partially reopening, contrary to the advice of many specialists.

On Saturday, Rio’s governor announced shopping centres and bars would be able to reopen – although those moves were temporarily halted by a court injunction on Monday.

Margareth Dalcolmo, a researcher from the Oswaldo Cruz Foundation, a biomedical research institute, said it was too early to reopen. “I fear this premature reopening that we are seeing will cause an explosion of cases in two weeks – which is the time between infection and symptoms,” the pneumologist warned.

“Our governors and mayors must be open to a new shutdown.”

Johnson says: “It is often useful to give the slight impression that you are deliberately pretending not to know what’s going on – because the reality may be that you don’t know what’s going on, but people won’t be able to tell the difference.”