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There are plenty of dirty Black cops too. This should not be about skin colour. The Police in America are out of control They even attack press and tv journalists with impunity.
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But seeing as people are mentioning the colour of those involved's skin could anyone tell me how many white police officers have been convicted of murder or manslaughter of unarmed black men?
I do know a non white policeman was convicted of the manslaughter of a completely innocent Australian woman recently |
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There are some Dirty Hard criminals out there, we cant be policed by the Salvation army FFS!
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as i tried to say earlier, why is is only the u.s we are exercised about? the fact that many u.s. cities are horribly violent, nobody will deny. and i suggested that plod has become demoralised and occasionally these nasty events happen, often because people resist arrest because of draconian u.s. law about repeat offending. note, im not defending what happened, just pointing out the hypocrisy involved
and if the plod in the u.s. is 'out of control' the police in majority black nations are more so, given the appalling numbers of people killed by plod in jamaica, and many other windies states. ive never heard any complaint from anyone about this and please dont give me the flannel about black people congregating for their own safety. the 'black flight' from places like chicago is well known. as for plod'attacking press and tv' have you seen what goes on in russia? or china? but there will be no marches about this. if you want to complain about state brutality toward its own, the u.s. is a long way down the list. |
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pretty shocking Charlie. The article states that 35% of officers charges were found guilty of manslaughter or Murder . 80 officers out of 12,000 odd shotings. I find that stat to be incredibly high tbh. I am pretty sure not many are charged with murder, certainly not white police officers.
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sorry 80 had been " charged " over 12 years and 35% found guilty.
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The main cause of Preventable deaths of young white men in the US is Traffic Accidents.
You know what the answer is to young black men?? |
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Homicide by other black men. Go figure!
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a fact ignored is that the safest place to be a black male is far safer wherever there are large numbers of white people. those in denial will deride or deplore this hypothesis, but what they will not do is say it aint true. the truth, it seems, is racist
This is just totally wrong if you look at the stats. xthink what he's trying to say is that in America, most black people are killed by other black people. The other policeman who stood by, I'm not sure what they should be charged with, they could/would argue they did not know he was being chocked, they could not determine the level of force etc, however he was consistently saying he couldn't breath, they were at close range and could have restrained him altogether thus not needed one man and his knee, they just seemed to not care. |
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thats not it. this is a very bad example of plod behaving badly. my point was that it happens all the time elsewhere and nobody gives a flying witches fart about 'black lives' when black men kill their own, as they do in huge numbers in the u.s. and by plod in other places where the police are almost all black.
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There is a resonance in many communities not just black. The blacks were kept down and suppressed. Even after returning black soldiers after both World Wars, Korea and Vietnam would not be given mortgages from properties in white areas. You wonder why there are ghetto's? They were not allowed to leave. The criminal justice system gave them no chance. The education system gave them no chance but many whites are experiencing the same hopelessness now. Watch and see who is rioting.
There are huge drug epidemics sweeping America killing far more than covid 19 has. There is an opioid epidemic. The main cause of Preventable deaths of young white men in the US is Traffic Accidents. Is that still true? There are huge underclasses all over America. It is pretty shocking. People seem to think this a white v black thing. It is not. |
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I do not shed a tear for a man who pushed a gun into a woman's stomach. I do feel sorry for all those mothers who worry every day if their sons and now even their daughters will come home safely. At the same token I feel outrage that a policeman and his colleagues could kill anyone like this and would have got off with it if it had not been filmed.
America has huge problems. it is not about black people. They have their own problems. |
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Six police officers charged with assaulting two students in Atlanta. Aggravated assault and battery. The two kids were tapered in their car by filthy cops. Black v white? 5 of the pigs were black and one was white. A disgusting act of violence. The Police Force are out of control and are usually exempt from prosecution.
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https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1268575677286154246
Unreal cop gropes her breasts,then lets her go hopeing she doesn't stands still then three other cops run over and beat the sh1t out of her and hand on head again,absolute vermin.. |
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https://twitter.com/Staircase2/status/1268727129300185090
wtf is going on dozens of these happening,like a facist dictator state.. ![]() |
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"pandemic of racism"
Corona mutated into racism |
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not sure if already mentioned , but i heard on the news that the other 3 officers were trainees, just been there a week, definetly makes a different to their role id say
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Yes and no elis.
They had been working for months but unfortunately under the supervision of Chauvin. They were probably under probation prior and then maybe off probation and in their first technical full week. It was not their first week on the job. Any sympathy for them comes in the fact that he was their role model and reporting officer. Can you imagine working in lets say an office and some older geezer gets up on the top rung of a step ladder stretches on tiptoe to get a file or asks a young person to do it. Would you tell the senior man to stop immediately because he is not only braking health and safety law but risking serious injury? Not a great example perhaps but how do you tell a murderous thug who is your boss with 18 odd complaints for use of excessive force and has been involved in death of suspects to get the fcuk off his neck? I hope the two junior officer do get convicted. I am not sure about how they get punished. The other officer was also some sort of sadist. He was a senior man with plenty of complaints against him for violence too. I would not expect much leniency for him. Chauvin I believe should be charged with murder in the first degree. He knee he was squeezing the life out of Floyd. |
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I do have some sympathy for the cops. They are dealing with a man mountain who was resisting at one point. If you cant breath, how can you speak?
Listen people please dont bombard me with abuse. I am allowed an opinion on what might have happened as a possible defence.. First degree murder involves a specific intent to kill and premeditation and deliberation.. Cant be true. The other 3 police officers are in jail, I can only imagine to appease or protect (from) the baying mob outside... I'd hope the guy gets found guilty of manslaughter and some sort of neglect... 8-10 years... I can have this opinion because this is an anonymous forum and I live in a bunker.. Certain there are many others with similar views but it's just not acceptable with the pitchfork and torch brigade.. |
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i havent really followed this case , but i think ive heard that he pulled a gun on a woman?, now forget about his death for a moment, and just think of the former, if that was done here, everyone would be saying absolute filth, id be 1st to tie the noose etc etc, deserves all he gets, and weve all said this about loads of offenders on this forum, now nearly 90% of this country is paying homage to this guy
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First degree murder involves a specific intent to kill and premeditation and deliberation.. Cant be true.
He had about nine minutes to consider what his actions were going to result in. He had a little clue when the man said he couldn't breath and another one when the man mountain called for his mother, first word of the infant, last word of the brave. I hope Chauvin get 40 years and then justice inside the criminal justice system. If you cant breath, how can you speak? I suggest you ask a friend to stand on your chest for a while then ask him to get off. You might be surprised at the result. |
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not paying homage to him elis.
The issue is an out of control militarised Police Force. How different are they from the Chinese? Tear gassing peaceful protesters? There are plenty of white people joining the protests. it is not a black and white issue. There is a lot of injustice in America and poverty. Did you see the old white guy get thrown to the ground by a pig this morning? The rest of the pigs walked over him and claimed he tripped over his own feet? Do we want to see that sort of behaviour? |
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40 years on the table for the other 3 cops. I just can't accept that punishment and I don't see that a jury will either.
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One of them a fresh rookie and supposed to over rule a 20 year veteran.
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Did you see the old white guy get thrown to the ground by a pig this morning? The rest of the pigs walked over him and claimed he tripped over his own feet? Do we want to see that sort of behaviour?
Nobody Got Thrown to the ground!!! FFS! BY A PIG THIS MORNING!! THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS!! BULL 5HITE!! |
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two of the officers had only been working a few months. Hard to overrule a thug who is in charge of you. I have to agree but they said nothing, they were part of it. The other cop was more experienced and should have know better and had the authority to do something. Black people get shot and killed in America just for looking like someone who is wanted.
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Seriously?
Did you not see the old white guy thrown to the ground by a policeman in Buffalo? |
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DIDNT HAPPEN... NUTCASE.
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One of the suggested to Chauvin that Floyd be rolled on his side. Chauvin disagreed. I just can't see this guy being given 40 years and then we will have the riots when the not guilty verdict is read out.
America is lost at the minute, with all this happening mayors are now talking about cutting police budgets while they work 12 hour shifts getting spat on, shot, assaulted with no days off. Who would want to be a cop? |
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Listen people please dont bombard me with abuse
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What can you do when met with plain LIES on here?
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One of the suggested to Chauvin that Floyd be rolled on his side. Chauvin disagreed. I just can't see this guy being given 40 years
Don't disagree with that. Not sure myself how you deal with people involved. |
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See youre not gonna put the link up!!
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i know what you mean whispering, and i didnt mean that you were paying homage to him personally, but it does annoy me when all this stars etc come out etc, and we hardly here a whimper about all these shocking stabbings that occur in this country,
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Who would be in the police today risk your life on a daily basis for a ungrateful indifferent public that would drop you in it first chance they get?
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Thrown to the floor?? That's just not true is it? or shall we just move on? forget that one? |
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Here is a link to a copy of the London Evening Standard https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/buffalo-police-suspended-shoving-protester-a4460416.html Please open the link, read it and watch the video Just in case you don't want to open a link Two US police officers have been suspended after they were filmed shoving a 75-year-old man to the ground, leaving him bleeding on the pavement. The distressing footage, shot in Buffalo, New York, shows the white-haired man approaching a line of officers in riot gear as protests across the country continued into their tenth night following the death of George Floyd. One officer nudges the elderly demonstrator with a baton before a second forcefully pushes him with his hand. The pensioner stumbles backwards and hits the ground with a sickening crack. Blood can then be seen pooling around the man's head as officers appear to continue walking past. You called me a liar and said it was bullsheite. This is from reuters https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-protests-buffalo-idUSKBN23C0C0 (Reuters) - Two Buffalo, New York, police officers were suspended without pay on Thursday after a video showed them shoving a 75-year-old man to the ground, I understand if you are just a wind up merchant, fair enough. Throw the grenade, watch the show and have a laugh. I do that too at times tbf. If you genuinely think I have been lying or am trying to distort the truth I sincerely tell you I am not. These things are happening in America now. |
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He's carrying a crash helmet, thinks he's gonna reason with the Riot Police
Gets pushed as if he was a drunken old lady. He lost his footing as plain as day! Bangs his head on the floor.. absolutely no sympathy from me.. He's fine in hospital btw. https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1268741931217149952 |