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By:
GRANTCKING
When: 02 Jun 20 12:43

Jun 2, 2020 -- 6:24AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


Grant you are going to get arthritis with all the kneeling you want to do.


im not taking a knee for a convicted criminal

By:
GRANTCKING
When: 02 Jun 20 12:43
im not and never will be a virtue signaller!
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Jun 20 12:46

Jun 2, 2020 -- 12:07PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:


Charlie the graph posted yesterday on the the 'poor oppressed black people' thread says differentInterracial violent crime US 2012-2015B ON W 540,873W ON B 92,706H IN W 404,735W ON H 169,304H ON B 56,147B ON H 169,304


Firstly Injera said: If you’re white, brown, black or yellow in America, you are more likely to be killed by a black male than any other race. This is simply not true - see my post above.

Secondly I'm not sure of the origin of the graph posted yesterday but seems spurious:
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/23/white-supremacists-favorite-myths-about-black-crime-rates-take-another-hit-bjs-study
Vast majority of most crimes are committed by a person of the same race as the victim, Bureau of Justice Statistics reports.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf
If you look at the data (Table 1) you will indeed see that most crime is committed by people of the same race.

I wonder why people are prepared to believe some spurious graph given yesterday but don't want to believe the true facts.

By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Jun 20 12:47
Cringe worthy, seeing police kowtowing to the mob
By:
casemoney
When: 02 Jun 20 12:59
The Kneeling business blocks the Police , while the Looters and arsonists go about their business ..
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 20 13:08
Charlie every category has black offences as the highest percentage disregarding offences against their own race.
Given the population % makes it look even worse.
That graph mirrors your numbers with very little variance it's presentation is the difference look at the numbers.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 20 13:13
Charlie I've done the work for you

Interracial violent crime US 2012-2015

'Spurious' graph

B ON W 540,873
W ON B 92,706
H ON W 404,735       
W ON H 169,304
H ON B 56,147
B ON H 169,304

Your 'true' table

B ON W 540,360
W ON B 91,470
H ON W 406,450
W ON H 169,040
H ON B 55,790
B ON H 173,120

Get a grip
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Jun 20 13:22
And W on W is 2,082,546.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 20 13:33
Charlie every category has black offences as the highest percentage disregarding offences against their own race.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 20 13:34
Compare the numbers to population percentages and it'll be worse again
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Jun 20 14:14
I posted at 11:43 in reply to Injera's claim that:

If you’re white, brown, black or yellow in America, you are more likely to be killed by a black male than any other race.
It’s an undeniable fact, ignored by the Kneelers.


I merely pointed out this is not the case and provided evidence why it isn't true. Do you want to comment on that?
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 20 14:15
Percentage wise you are far more likely
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Jun 20 14:19
How do you work that out?
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 02 Jun 20 14:23
Compare population percentage stats you'll find that blacks will be topping the tables as well as topping the direct incident tables
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Jun 20 14:25
White-on-white killings as a percentage of all homicides involving a white victim also fell, to 81.3 percent, marking the lowest share of such killings since 2001.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 02 Jun 20 15:05
13% population of US is black, 73% white... US prison population is almost 1%... Pretty sure Black men outnumber White men in US prisons..

Would pointing out this fact, make me a Racist?
By:
politicspunter
When: 02 Jun 20 15:38

Jun 2, 2020 -- 3:19PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


I'd say it points out the system is racist instead.When you see black people peacefully protesting being hit with rubber bullets while white militia armed with automatic weapons were allowed to storm government buildings with the police looking on then it's a no brainer to see that the authorities are looking at colour of skin before the actions being taken.


Spot on.

By:
Emitdeb
When: 02 Jun 20 15:45
white militia armed with automatic weapons were allowed to storm government buildings with the police looking on.

If I roll my eyes at the "white" bit.. would that make me a Racist?
By:
politicspunter
When: 02 Jun 20 15:49
What happened in Michigan with those white armed men storming the government buildings was truly appalling. What did the racist Trump do? Said they were good people and told the governor to negotiate with them.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 02 Jun 20 15:55
link?


tbh, thought it was a reference to the marines going in...  Blush 



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xduNfXUVTVQ    These seem like decent chaps... Plain
By:
politicspunter
When: 02 Jun 20 16:09
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52496514
By:
politicspunter
When: 02 Jun 20 16:10
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/03/michigan-gretchen-whitmer-lockdown-protest-racism
By:
Baphornet
When: 02 Jun 20 16:17
By:
A_T
When: 02 Jun 20 16:36
At least they can kneel for most of you it would be too tricky in your big white gowns and hoods
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 02 Jun 20 16:41
I hope some of you people do not think it ok for a thug to kneel on someone's neck in this country or use the military against civilians
By:
aaronh
When: 02 Jun 20 16:43
Beginning to think a lot of these people who claim to be against tyrannical government behaviour are actually full of it
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 02 Jun 20 16:46
Why?

Could you explain why you think that way please?
By:
lybertyne
When: 02 Jun 20 16:47
In the USA,

6% of murdered blacks are killed by non-blacks
vs
14% of murdered whites killed by non-whites.

For every 10,000 blacks the police attempt to arrest for a violent crime, 13 die.
For every 10,000 whites the police attempt to arrest for a violent crime, 17 die.

George Floyd held a woman at gunpoint whilst his mates ransacked her home looking for money and items to steal.  Nice chap.
By:
lybertyne
When: 02 Jun 20 16:51
Blacks make up 13% of the US population and are responsible for 52.5% of homicides.

When a black is murdered, there is a 94% chance that another black did it.

Instead of blaming others, they need to look at themselves.
By:
lybertyne
When: 02 Jun 20 16:52
These are not opinions; they are cold, hard statistics that anyone can look up.
By:
politicspunter
When: 02 Jun 20 16:55
No need to look up how George Floyd lost his life.
By:
aaronh
When: 02 Jun 20 16:56

Jun 2, 2020 -- 4:46PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


Why?Could you explain why you think that way please?


All these people have shown on countless occasions they will support undemocratic, authoritarian governments and actions all the time. They are the same people who cry they can't get their hair cut and then think its OK to gas and shoot rubber bullets and people who are outside

By:
Charlie
When: 02 Jun 20 16:57

Jun 2, 2020 -- 4:55PM, politicspunter wrote:


No need to look up how George Floyd lost his life.


Where would I look?

By:
aaronh
When: 02 Jun 20 16:57
lybertyne approves of the police being used as death squads it appears
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Jun 20 16:57
Whoops wrong quote. Sorry.
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Jun 20 16:58

Jun 2, 2020 -- 4:52PM, lybertyne wrote:


These are not opinions; they are cold, hard statistics that anyone can look up.


Where would I look?

By:
aaronh
When: 02 Jun 20 16:59
do all these bootlickers have such a low opinion of the police that they believe the average person, or even criminal, and the person who is meant to serve and protect communities should be held to the same low standards
By:
aaronh
When: 02 Jun 20 17:00
Nice free thinking by timmy rehashing another swamp monsters blatant misrepresentation
By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Jun 20 17:05
Some of the infp being discussed can be found here;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police-shootings-2019/

For example; last year, 19 unarmed whites shot and killed by US police, 9 unarmed blacks, which kinda surprised me
By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Jun 20 17:07
Nice free thinking yourself, aaron, instantly dismissing it because you don`t like the facts. Most excellent example of what lefties consider `free thinking`.
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