All gone quiet on Cummings

Boris Johnson is under fresh pressure to sack Dominic Cummings as a new poll shows that more than two-thirds of voters – including more than half of Tories – want him thrown out of Downing Street for breaching lockdown rules.

The survey by Opinium for the Observer shows a massive 81% think Cummings broke the rules. It also finds that support for the Conservatives is collapsing, with the party now just four points ahead of Labour, having had a commanding lead of 26 points just two months ago.

In the past week alone, the Tory lead has fallen by eight points, the largest weekly drop Opinium has recorded since 2017.

After several days in which the news has been dominated by the row over Cummings’ trip from London to Durham with his wife and child, and his refusal to apologise, public anger is laid bare by the poll. Some 68% think Cummings should resign. If he does not, 66% believe he should be sacked by Johnson.

As he stood by his adviser, Johnson said he would ultimately leave the public to make up their minds. The poll, and a petition calling for Cummings to be dismissed that has attracted over a million signatures, show where the balance of opinion lies.

65 million not signed then ?

War at the Mail? Daily Mail anti-Cummings all last week. Mail on Sunday pro-Cummings; well, not so much defending Cummings as attacking his critics.

Not really sure why the government is so keen to hang on to Cummings. Look at what a cods we've made of Covid-19. We are near the top of most of the league tables and not in a good way. I don't know which parts Cummings is responsible for but it is hard to conclude he is doing much good.

Add to that he is not even a Tory. They should do what Blair did with Mandelson. Sack him then bring him back a few months later when all the fuss has died down. Labour did it twice with Mandelson.

Boris -- if you are reading this, don't sack him before Monday. I've backed Cummings still to be there tomorrow.

Two completely different editors Daily Mail/Mail on Sunday.

The public witnessed the extent Boris will go to to look after himself....and Cummings
By not cutting out the cancer more long term damage will result, it’s not as though nobody noticed.

Trying to get the public to do anything now will be like herding cats.

KEY Figs from our
@OpiniumResearch
poll in
@Observer
. Tory lead down over Lab from 26 pts in late March to 4pts now. Down 8pts in week. 2/3s don't believe Cummings. 81% say he broke rules. 52% of Tories say should quit. 68% of public say he should go, 66% that PM should fire C if not.

That was always the government plan.

Labour failed to mobilise a unified response from the opposition. I don't think Starmer is comfortable working cross party. He got tetchy with the SNP on several occasions during the Brexit debate. All in all a badly missed opportunity to apply concerted pressure.

That said to be fair there was a very awkward moment at yesterday's press conference where Van Tam seemed to suggest that he didn't back the government's response.

Also the press will jump on any new information.

Over four years to the next elections. Todays chip papers are yesterdays newspapers (remember those days before H&S stopped it). Move on, nothing to see.

the more mp,s that are outed,like rosie cooper,the more the publics opinion of there was one rule for the elite and one for the plebs is proved correct,like the expenses row didn't matter what party you were in

It's less than four years to the next general election.

Over four years to the next elections. Todays chip papers are yesterdays newspapers (remember those days before H&S stopped it). Move on, nothing to see.

Voters remember these things. And this won't be the last example of their arrogance and disdain for ordinary people.

Raab providing some very shifty answers to a simple question from Sophy Ridge as to when he first knew Cummings was in Durham.
She made a very good point that he was deputising for Johnson whilst Cummings was up north.

fairly obvious from cummings statement that no one in no 10 new he was in durham ,till guardian contacted no 10

I'd forgotten that clarity had bene brought to the situation

heard cummings was at the NRL the other day

May 31, 2020 -- 9:13AM, Manoleeds wrote:

Over four years to the next elections. Todays chip papers are yesterdays newspapers (remember those days before H&S stopped it). Move on, nothing to see.

There are plenty of elections to bet on in the UK before the next general election, plenty of markets currently available.

Meanwhile, former teacher Robin Lees, who called police about Mr Cummings taking a trip from his parents’ Durham home to Barnard Castle, last night admitted to making a long-distance trip himself.

He drove from his home in Barnard Castle earlier this month to pick up his student daughter who had been self-isolating at her boyfriend’s home in Berkshire. She was seen at the family home last week, but Mr Lees insists he complied with the relevant rules at the time.

pmsl

Why do people keep quoting polls from that liberal/leftie rag The Observer?

May 31, 2020 -- 9:47AM, chelsea girl wrote:

Why do people keep quoting polls from that liberal/leftie rag The Observer?

Erm, the Observer don't carry out the poll.

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 43% (-2)
LAB: 38% (+5)
LDEM: 8% (-4)


This is from the Mail on Sunday if that's helpful? They don't carry out the poll either.

grantcking
cummings the lemmings said mr lee,s didn't brteak the rules are you saying he did yes/no

I did not say they carried it out, I said they QUOTED it, mainly because it suited their agenda.

May 31, 2020 -- 9:55AM, chelsea girl wrote:

I did not say they carried it out, I said they QUOTED it, mainly because it suited their agenda.

chelsea girl, Have a look at the poll in the Mail on Sunday (above). Does that suit their agenda?

May 31, 2020 -- 9:54AM, 1st time poster wrote:

grantckingcummings the lemmings said mr lee,s didn't brteak the rules are you saying he did yes/no

im saying its funny he grassed someone up when he did the same thing, nobody likes a grass and a hypocrite

he said he didn't go till restrictions on long journey,s were removed

Polls are useless and provide a weak argument, just ask Hilary Clinton and Brexiteers.

May 31, 2020 -- 10:00AM, chelsea girl wrote:

Polls are useless and provide a weak argument, just ask Hilary Clinton and Brexiteers.

Ah, you mean those polls now don't suit your personal agenda, do they?

chelsea girl, Have a look at the poll in the Mail on Sunday (above). Does that suit their agenda?

Not sure what the Mails agenda is since they were taken over by Geordie Greig.

Both editions have a different editorial staff, and it all becomes rather confusing.

Hence I stopped buying it.

Question for the Mail. How does throwing some mud at someone else make the Cummings story untrue?

May 31, 2020 -- 10:00AM, chelsea girl wrote:

Polls are useless and provide a weak argument, just ask Hilary Clinton and Brexiteers.

Hilary Clinton? -The polls were correct. Hillary Clinton beat Trump in the popular vote by three million votes.


Brexiteers?- It was a stonewall toss up. Polls suggested either result was equally possible.

May 31, 2020 -- 10:09AM, differentdrum wrote:

Question for the Mail. How does throwing some mud at someone else make the Cummings story untrue?

It doesn't, but they have to sell papers to their Sunday readership.

Blah Blah ... meaningless poll...bluster ..Blah Blah..cheap political point..Blah Blah..bluster.

This ended with the statement by Durham police.

No offence.

Durham police state he is guilty but their policy is not to prosecute minor offences

That's good enough for some.




Anyway dom wants to sue for defamation of character


Lol... He's going to testify under oath, lol

His Mrs retweeted clown Boris johnson tweet

Stay home

On day of her birthday treat drive to Barnard castle


Lol



Going away some time next century

This 'ended' with Durham police admitting they didn't do their job properly. Hardly surprising given they seemed to have as little idea of the rules as Cummings.

his wife seems a little dim,saw her giggling like a naughty school girl when in car  leaving house one day last week,didnt seem one to be frightened, worried by the publicity

May 31, 2020 -- 2:22PM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:

Blah Blah ... meaningless poll...bluster ..Blah Blah..cheap political point..Blah Blah..bluster.This ended with the statement by Durham police. No offence.

KEY Figs from our
@OpiniumResearch
poll in
@Observer
. Tory lead down over Lab from 26 pts in late March to 4pts now. Down 8pts in week. 2/3s don't believe Cummings. 81% say he broke rules. 52% of Tories say should quit. 68% of public say he should go, 66% that PM should fire C if not.

Hardly meaningless.

no doubt it's been bad for the Tories and the smell will remain unless Dom goes. can they really not cope without him?

dom will get Brexit done as they say,do a moonlight flit and the shoitey smelly deal he leaves behind will be the tory party,s fault when it goes badly,
and be anointed a genius for doing it

He has been a disaster since the election

If I was a tory I would want him gone now and back for next election.

Daniel hannan,farage etc all making the case for a deal these days and moving away from a cummings no deal,they seem more worried about our been close to the EU as a 3rd country than they were whilst we were members

May 31, 2020 -- 9:16AM, Angoose wrote:

It's less than four years to the next general election.

Fixed year parliament act means 5 year terms

just for the record what's the deal with that now ? surely no one wants another xmas election. may/june 2024 would be the logical date but how do you get both sides to agree to that ?

2070 seems a good year says j rees mugg wants to see the benefits of brexit before going to the country,mind you that was before rishi bankrupted the country, might be 3070 now

They could have one Summer 2024 if Labour agree (2/3 majority I think)

seems doris sister latest to break lockdown rules been in lockdown in somerset but stopping in London flat with sons after her LBC Friday night shows, LOL, EVERYONES AT IT, , she was on gmb the other morning telling cumming,s to come clean and fess up,

tobes, at the moment I guess it would be the same story as last autumn. labour could hardly oppose an election without looking weak but tories would no doubt hang on to autumn 2024 if they look like losing