Charley Van Tam couldn't answer it either

If the government said they were cancelling the proposed changes, there would be a different raft of scientists and others saying that is the wrong decision. They are in a no win situation, in a country that is heavily divided, politically.

How Mr van Tam was unable to give details of 8000 ne cases a day baffled me extremely unless the details were not for public consumption. The info should be on the admission form of every new patient (surely).

I'm astounded.

3.Number of new COVID-19 cases in England
There were an estimated average of 54,000 new COVID-19 infections per week in England
Based on results of people tested throughout the study period, which began on 26 April 2020, we estimate that there were 0.10 new infections per 100 people followed for one week (95% confidence interval: 0.06 to 0.16). This would represent an average of 54,000 new infections per week for people living in private-residential households in the community in England since the study began (95% confidence interval: 34,000 to 86,000).

When comparing the estimated number of people in England that had COVID-19 in this publication against the results published in the previous publication, it should be noted that the change is relatively small and it should be interpreted that the number of new infections in England is relatively stable.

The rate is known as the incidence rate and measures the occurrence of new cases of COVID-19. Incidence refers to the number of individuals who have a positive test in the study divided by the time from joining the study to their last test. Individuals who are positive when they join the study are not included in this calculation. This is not the same as the reproduction rate (R). R is described in the next section.

As of 24 May 2020, 14,540 individuals who were negative on their first test in the study have had one or more follow-up swab tests. The median time between tests was 13 days.

Unlike the analysis in Section 2 of this bulletin, these estimates have not been weighted to be representative of the target population in England. This is because of the relatively small numbers of positive cases in the sample but analysis suggests that weighting would not significantly change the results. We will do more work on the potential to weight these estimates in future publications.

This is a very very loose estimate

Not properly weighted as there are not enough new positives. Ergo, to put it mildly, it's a guess.

Out of the 18,913 participants' swab tests included in this analysis, 36 individuals in 27 households tested positive for COVID-19. As a household survey, our figures do not include people staying in hospital or care homes. In these settings, rates of COVID-19 infection are likely to be higher.

I'd still be cautious if venturing into  supermarket (I do not do non-essential shops or banks) more so with idiots present or in the vicinity. I've survived this far, and I do not wish to infect (unintentionally) others I care or be infected by some scums who see the easing of lockdown as making up for lost time during lockdown,

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I think you're not alone. I'm in my early 60's and only venture into supermarket if necessary. May I ask why you're so concerned?

Clacton, i would go doolally it i didn't go out,i do keep away from people though.

That is the question,how are 8000 people catching this now everyday?

Oh i see Clacton, you are right in your case,good man,hang in there.

'clacton', you're more vulnerable than most. Just carry on as you've been for a wee bit longer, and reassess. I hope you can recourse to assistance, if needed. This 8k new cases a day is pretty uncomfortable news even for me to contemplate.

& keep on supping

clacton, here is a table for recorded deaths in England and Wales by age category

Age

Deaths

%

FFS THERES SOME LOONS ON HERE ,how can he give dratails on people they don't no,6,000 of them are a guesstimate,a model,they hvnt been tested,dont excist,their just estimated to be out there,they might not be out there ,equally they may be more of them.but tam lied the elderly are the least represented amongst them according to modelling,common sense as there shielding, not working,observing social distancing in the main,keeping out of the community

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Something wrong with the tables on the forum today

Something very strange going on

Angoose what is the percentage of over 60's that have died. I would think it is high.

60+ is 93.2% of the registered deaths for England & Wales up to 15 May

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