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What do you mean by change one species into another?
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The **** species all from the same branch and eventually left just us.
But no other branch of evolution has ever gor close to us in terms of knowledge and technology. Why hasnt it? Aparently we went from Ape to our current form in 200,000 years, a very short time frame in the history of the earth. But nothing else in millions of years of evolution has got anywhere close! Very odd. |
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As I said above we bumped them off probably.
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There are lots of different animals such as a camel, a chameleon, a cobra, a chicken which all found their niche in the world. Different h o m o s' didn't.
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How could we possibly know what species are currently transitional. We can't come back in 100,000 years to see.
I don't know who on earth said penguins and platypuses are transitional species. |
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Traits are passed on because they are useful in helping an individual to thrive in his environment so that he can then stay alive to breed and have descendants.
Intelligence is not necessarily going to help an individual. If a lion is born with a mutation that makes him more intelligent than other lions is that going to make him a more successful lion ? Being a successful lion involves hunting, killing Hyenas and fighting other lions, not thinking about making technology from your environment. |
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Ape to human was a transition of a couple of million years, rather than 200k
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eg fish to mammal, you know not a mammoth into elephant or sabre tooth tiger to a tiger. It was not a difficult thing.
I can see things getting bigger/smaller to suit enviroment, as we have got taller. But no evidence exists of a the crossover, and even though it takes thousands of years we should see evidence lets say of a fish species becoming a mamal, where some are still fish, somer are technically mamals as the transition/crossover isnt fully complete amongst the species. We see none of this. As mentioned, this question is a big one and one not answered as of yet, the 2 candidates where the platypuss and the penguin, but both now seem to be a fairly stable animal with no significant changes in 10s of thousands of years, only thing to have changed is the size. Re the wings it was rather flippant, however we could all make a few changes to species to give them a better defence system should we say, such as poisinouss to predators, but not all go down this route. This is argued by abundance in numbers so not necessary to keep the species going. But how does evolution know this, or does it say we will think about it when numbers drop to below xy or z? |
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eg fish to mammal, you know not a mammoth into elephant or sabre tooth tiger to a tiger. It was not a difficult thing.
I can't understand what you mean can you explain please. |
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As said above sabre tooth cats and mammoths did not evolve into anything. They are extinct with no descendants living today.
Reptiles evolved from fish 300-400 million years ago and mammals evolved from reptiles. |
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Those questions are without asking how evolution often seems to have an end result, such as how an eye becomes into place.
It is extremley complicated, how can it just slowly develop, just the retina say with no purpose at all, then adding on top the other things to make it function. I have seen very sketch arguements re this fact, but none are convincing. Same as put carbon, water, electrity etc into a soup, and voila, life. Well we cannot get life without DNA and DNA needs RNA, we cannot get any life without adding the RNA ourselves, but science skips over this. As i say evolution does happen, not an anti evolusionist, but the current model i dont believe is right and there is more to it. |
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You are jumping from one thing to another seemingly at random. Try discussing one thing at a time. I must admit I've lost interest because of this. I'll leave it to tobermory for a while. |
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^^the "eye" has evolved many times. It is one of the least puzzling evolutionary developments in animals. It provides advantages no matter how poorly developed it is and more advantages the better it develops.
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im not at all, u admitted u dont understand.
Fair ennough u dont understand. Devout Evolusionts have no answers to some of the questions i posted, and are at a struggle to get the answers. So i doubt u could just come forward with them. The development of say vision and the complexities of how it randomly arises is one where arguements have been put forward, but as i say not very convincing, The others are still unanswered. So i doubt you can answer them Charlie as you dont even understand the questions. Thanks for trying your best though. Tober yes it has taken millions of years for apes to human species, but only 200,000 years from first human species to evolve to what we are today. Given that is a drop in the ocean time wise its a bit odd no other species have had the same rapid progress or to reach a fraction of what the human mind is capaable of. |
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furthermore on vision, animals living in caves mutate to lose vision. There is no "drive" for that to happen, it happens randomly, merely that they die out if they venture beyond the darkness.
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I don't know why you find the arguments for eye evolution unpersuasive. As Dave says there are advantages with only the most basic vision; knowing night from day, knowing something moved or not etc
The first human species is debatable, but I don't know of anyone that disputes Home erectus was human and that is 2 million years old at least. I think some sort of human species will have been around a lot longer. In the last 200,000 years, actually more probably 300,000+ , our own species has been around. And it is debated how much we have evolved during this time. My guess is not very much and people 100,000 years ago, if you brought them back in a time machine when they were babies, would probably go unnoticed in modern society after growing up with our culture. |
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you lose what you don't use, when fish left the water they lost their fins because they were no longer needed, animals living complete darkness lose their eyes because they don't need to see.
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the key point is that change occurs randomly. Because an attribute provides no advantage or even a disadvantage in a changed environment, the randomly lost attribute is passed on to future generations. |
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Letter p. Penguin and ptata****. Xxx rated ttile.
I thot about the story of how life started and how they DNA began. Bearing in mind Darwin did not know the cell contained three bbillion amino acid letters. If life began quickly on our planet. Then more startup should have been generated. CAGT. Symbolizes the amino acids. Where are the others. SYTR. GDWT. All eight million species use CAGT. Dawkins and Crick push evolution off the planet. Panspermia. This is twilight zone science. Last excuse beforevthe house falls down. He also tries to rope in multiverse theory?. A comic book idea of dc comics from wonderwoman. Early fifties. He convinced an audience that Steven Weinberg a Nobel prize winner in physics was exploring this. He then interviewed him thinking he had ammunition. Stevie set him straight. No fkin physicist anywhere has published a paper on multiverse theory. He told him in stark terms it's a non starter. Never will I eat green eggs and ham lunacy. The flash and green lantern can travel to quark . The rest of us to Tesco. Stevo then tells Dawkins the universe is so finely balanced and so exotic and complex that the will never have a theory of everything. During their discussion Dawkins squirmed in his chair and looks up at the ceiling in despair. What's up there? The second floor or God, The universe is so finely tuned . The cosmological constant is 10 to the power of 120. . That is one constant in twenty five. All balanced at huge levels. A ruler trillions of miles long and you place a pencil mark on it. Nature uses the Fibonacci sequence. 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89.. Etc. Adding the two previous numbers. Petals are arranged like this. Patterns on pineapples. Trees all use this. It screams design. Dawkins says you caknot trust your eyes? WTF. It oonly appears to be designed... Atoms use the Fibonacci seq. Spiral galaxies. Too. If the universe was billions of yrs old. All the spiral arms woyod have twisted into a circle Evolution is full of holes . I made a list of 100 and some are very relevant. My mob. The Christians delve backwards about 12,000 yrs. Evolutionist expand this to absurdity. If plasma physics is right. The universe began much sooner. It explains all matter and Dark dark energy and matter is not needed. It's 99 percent all there. If you explain the universe to 100 percent and it stands up. Then all the physicists iinvested in dark matter are out of a job. Einstein must have got a few people fired who thot contrary to him. Science moves on. Evolution is a idea from Hinduism. The ladder of life. One animal looks similar to another. Morphological ssimilarity. Look at that apes hand it's like me? another view. Eight million designed animals. There will be similarities. Take comic book ccompanies. One company does Batman. So marvel does daredevil. Aqua man-submariner. Thanos-darkseid. . You try creating millions of planes or cars and corkscrew openers and not get things looking similar. Draw ten faces. Try and draw ten animals with different combinations. We get similarities. Columbo-quincymonk, Quincy-csi Vegas. Hollywood pumps oit the same stories again and again . People,aka women, mix up star trekkers with starwars. so we look at an ape and look at us. We see similarities . Compare and contrast. So we trust our eyes. Flip. Orphan genes destroys evolution. Plasma physical will destroy mainstream physics. Electromagnetism is the king force. . I destroyed an old pc I had. I salvaged the parts. Fan.memory. CPU fan. Etc. Old hard drive kaput. I tore it apart and got a super magnet that is hard to separate. A magnet is a small reminder of a vast force. |