Chit Chat
Norway admitting it's lockdown was pointless
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Did you used to do it when I helped with the scoring Lux a few years back?
Perhaps that is where I recognize you.  |
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I'll say this. It was incomprehensible to me at the time that we would be locked down in such a way. This has never happened in Blighty and I could just not get it through my head. I knew the travel via planes was the major spreader initially and again could not understand why this was not curtailed sooner although again this is perhaps more in hindsight. I thought Chumps closing of flights from China was political rather than practical so why weren't flights from Italy, Spain and the UK not closed off sooner?
I would say though they had the benefit of Operation Cygnus. This was ignored. They had experts, they had the information and should have known what to do. Clearly with hindsight we should have stopped the flights and locked down quicker and harder for a shorter period. They are in power to make these decisions and they have failed miserably. We are in a terrible mess and the real tragedy of the situation...the Economy is not even up for discussion yet. Many more people will die indirectly from this than from the Corona Virus. Many businesses, homes and jobs will be lost and result in misery for tens of thousands of people. |
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Totally agree IT
There is no evidence that we couldn't cope with any second wave especially now with our improved testing capacity and tracing. Too much evidence now supports the idea that Social distancing stops the spread on its own. Now the numbers are low we should be cracking on more. This new idea that people who have had the virus need to isolate again in case they can pass it on (there is no evidence anyone can catch it again themselves) seems like complete overkill to me. You wanted this early if it were part of your arsenal on the other side of the curve not now. Surely with social distancing if you had the virus, these are the very people you want out and about? |
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A couple of weeks ago we would have be attacked for stating these facts.
People like Piers Morgan so angry with the like of Peter Hitchins from 31 March. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4xsk-SMA_8&t=229s |
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SAGE never took into account the economy and gave people like Ferguson too much time.
What part of SAGE is supposed to firstly MAKE DECISIONS and secondly TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ECONOMY! They are scientists not economists! Why don't you get this! Advisers advise, Ministers DECIDE! The people you have constantly been defending have put us into this situation by their incompetence and total lack of coherent leadership! IT could you tell me if you are receiving any Furlough money please? You don't have to answer that of course but shirley it must get your goat that we are paying out tens of billions to people like me for doing nothing even though there is no reason why I should not be performing my job right now! |
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The focus is on the medical science as you well know and you still ignore the fact that they are not there to Govern!
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Honesty from the Norwegians, don’t expect the same here, lockdown has done untold damage, decision makers won’t want to own it, lives saved will be the spin.
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How prepared is Britain for coronavirus pandemic? Sophisticated analysis shows three major gaps
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/prepared-britain-coronavirus-pandemic-sophisticated-analysis/ In the wake of the 2014 Ebola outbreak, the UK was at the leading edge of efforts to improve the global system to prevent, detect and respond to epidemic threats. Today, as Covid-19 rapidly spreads, it is one of the countries best prepared to manage this public health risk, but real gaps remain that could limit its ability to respond effectively to this or future outbreaks. By some of the most important measures of health security, the UK is the global leader. It has a leading laboratory system and a robust capacity to test and approve new medical countermeasures. It has a world class system for real-time surveillance and reporting, which was effectively used in the 2012 Olympics and Paralympics to monitor public health risks. It is also one of only 10 countries to have conducted joint biological threat focused-exercises with the World Heath Organization and published the results. Thanks to this important work, the UK scores number two, after the US, in the Global Health Security Index, the first comprehensive assessment and benchmarking of health security. Covering 195 countries, the GHS Index assesses countries’ preparedness in six areas: prevention, detection, rapid response, strength of the health system, compliance with international norms, and the overall risk environment. It is in the latter three that the UK faces real challenges. For me the problem has not been with the last 3 areas! |
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I posted the link but not the full article from March 9th before any measures were in place in the UK.
In the background London was already under siege. |
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