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Report elisjohn May 27, 2020 5:52 PM BST
isolate and get a test now, not isolate and stay at home
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2020 5:52 PM BST
How much have we SPAFFED on our app, so far
Report eyeball May 27, 2020 5:53 PM BST
Peston's question on hairdressers today
Report Baphornet May 27, 2020 5:53 PM BST
NO is the short answer IT
Report morpteh mackem May 27, 2020 5:53 PM BST
civic duty ? like thats going to happen, yer daft ****
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2020 5:53 PM BST
Doms mates app, I might add
Report eyeball May 27, 2020 5:53 PM BST
where's the sick bucket ?
Report Baphornet May 27, 2020 5:53 PM BST
Peston still wearing a wet flannel
Report Petraco May 27, 2020 5:54 PM BST
How do we authenticate that the caller is who they say they are as opposed to a Nigerian trying to get your PIN number?
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 5:55 PM BST
Good point
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 5:55 PM BST
He looks like he has been getting a hair cut
Report Baphornet May 27, 2020 5:55 PM BST
probably ringing from No11
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2020 5:55 PM BST
Hancock setting up scam calls for old folk with this system


Oh Mr x you have been in contact with Mr y and we will come round tomorrow
one does test while mate ransack house


This is Fecking terrible
Report Baphornet May 27, 2020 5:56 PM BST
feck me sh'es changed since the Eminem days
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 5:57 PM BST
Will this test results be fast enough?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2020 5:58 PM BST
Talk talk not Eminem, shirley
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 5:58 PM BST
All sounds good in principal to be fair
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 5:59 PM BST
Just not sure they can make it work
Report morpteh mackem May 27, 2020 5:59 PM BST
leipzig just equalised
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2020 5:59 PM BST
Stay alert on the slide

Whoops
Report eyeball May 27, 2020 6:00 PM BST
Six months after the virus hits and now they bring in track and trace . Will be no cases in a couple of weeks . tragic.
Report Baphornet May 27, 2020 6:01 PM BST
nah Donny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMhN-hfMtY
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:01 PM BST
Yep. If we follow the natural course of the virus in other countries.
Report Baphornet May 27, 2020 6:01 PM BST
getting it ready for the 2nd hit in October
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:03 PM BST
2nd hit will face an immune population if it tries to take on London.
Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:04 PM BST
no symptons stay at home 14 days
symptons travel 300 mile for a 2 week jolly,
use your instinct and common sense
get stopped quote shapps,jenric,cummings 10 downing street


dildo fooook off,wouldnt give you one,never mind my data ,you lost the last lot Laugh
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:05 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:04PM, 1st time poster wrote:


no symptons stay at home 14 dayssymptons travel 300 mile for a 2 week jolly,use your instinct and common senseget stopped quote shapps,jenric,cummings 10 downing streetdildo fooook off,wouldnt give you one,never mind my data ,you lost the last lot


Obviously if a child is at risk you may not be able to follow the headline guides.

Report eyeball May 27, 2020 6:06 PM BST
October / November second wave (nap)
Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:06 PM BST
did the 100,000 on the beach at weekend leave their contact details under a rock Laugh
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:06 PM BST
Good question. Finally
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2020 6:06 PM BST
Be alert

Test eyesight

Don't forget wife's birthday
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:07 PM BST
Transmit it to who you moron if older/vulnerable are in lockdown
Report eyeball May 27, 2020 6:07 PM BST
Same target groups will die in the second wave
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2020 6:07 PM BST
Language timothy
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2020 6:08 PM BST
Virus mutates who knows
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:08 PM BST
Van Tam just let on it all a game
Report eyeball May 27, 2020 6:08 PM BST
The tic-tac man doesn't look two metres away
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2020 6:09 PM BST
Get it out of system via lockdown, then we can all get on
Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:09 PM BST
12 weeks in trader still cant quite grasp it for the last time

theres no difference in chance of catching it if your one or 101,and probably more chance of you passing it on

do you finally understand or whats not quite sinking in
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:10 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:09PM, 1st time poster wrote:


12 weeks in trader still cant quite grasp it for the last timetheres no difference in chance of catching it if your one or 101,and probably more chance of you passing it ondo you finally understand or whats not quite sinking in


I get it totally.

To limit deaths you protect the old/vulnerable people extremely well. 100 times better than we have.

You let everyone else get on with it.

Report wolf3011 May 27, 2020 6:10 PM BST
so what would stop someone with corona virus that has a grievance against someone saying they were in contact with Mr bloggs at number 24 forcing that person to get a call from the NHS saying they must self isolate even if it was a pack of lies?
Report HGS May 27, 2020 6:10 PM BST
The tic-tac man doesn't look two metres away Laugh
Report Baphornet May 27, 2020 6:11 PM BST
hello Sophie!
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:11 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:10PM, wolf3011 wrote:


so what would stop someone with corona virus that has a grievance against someone saying they were in contact with Mr bloggs at number 24 forcing that person to get a call from the NHS saying they must self isolate even if it was a pack of lies?


The person called by the contract tracer says they have not seen the person. The tracer calls back covid victim and grills them again.

Report wolf3011 May 27, 2020 6:12 PM BST
and then the covid victim could lie again so round and round we go
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:14 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:12PM, wolf3011 wrote:


and then the covid victim could lie again so round and round we go


Imagine that sort of behavour is illegal?

Report wolf3011 May 27, 2020 6:15 PM BST
wouldnt matter for a percentage of people
Report jollyswagman May 27, 2020 6:16 PM BST
dido was in charge of talk talk when they had a huge data breach Shocked
Report HGS May 27, 2020 6:16 PM BST
Disappointing. The wry smile when introducing Peston will have to do.
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:16 PM BST
Speak faster mate.
Report Petraco May 27, 2020 6:16 PM BST
None of this is either legal or illegal. 

It is not subject to any law as they haven't passed one.

It now appears to be just part of everyones Civic Duty Laugh
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:17 PM BST
The lady running it seems very confident and believable.
Report Baphornet May 27, 2020 6:18 PM BST
1951
Report morpteh mackem May 27, 2020 6:18 PM BST
didnt realise dido harding was boss at talk talk when 4 millions customers details were hacked. thats reassuring. Mischief
Report Baphornet May 27, 2020 6:18 PM BST
bye Bobby!
Report morpteh mackem May 27, 2020 6:18 PM BST
and cost talk talk 60 million
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:18 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:18PM, morpteh mackem wrote:


didnt realise dido harding was boss at talk talk when 4 millions customers details were hacked. thats reassuring.


Kidding? For goodness sake

Report wolf3011 May 27, 2020 6:18 PM BST
lol @ hancock taking great delight including himself in the under 45s
Report jollyswagman May 27, 2020 6:19 PM BST
the data breach cost her firm £60 million and 101,000 customers
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:19 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:17PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


The lady running it seems very confident and believable.


Bad timing me saying this!

Report jollyswagman May 27, 2020 6:20 PM BST
and her bonus went up under the long term incentive plan Laugh
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:20 PM BST
She is another corporate type that talks the talk but falls down trying to walk the walk.

Just what we need.
Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:21 PM BST
its fooooking crazy madness, you have to isolate if stood next to someone in Tesco for 15 mins, but sleep with your lass in same bed for 12 hrs and she can jog on regardless ,wtf is that all about
Report jollyswagman May 27, 2020 6:22 PM BST
her cash bonus went down but more than made up for by the long term incentive plan
Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:22 PM BST
at present if you have symptons it s 7 days, your family 14,
now its no symptoins for you 14 days and your family can jog on

am I missing something or has the world can mad
Report wolf3011 May 27, 2020 6:23 PM BST
Surely all this will only be for people who download the app so who will download an app knowing if they do they may be forced by law to self quarantine for 14 days if they stood next to someone in a shop
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:23 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:22PM, 1st time poster wrote:


at present if you have symptons it s 7 days, your family 14,now its no symptoins for you 14 days and your family can jog onam I missing something or has the world can mad


I guess if you get symthoms then rest of household also have to isolate because they will be contact traced

Report Petraco May 27, 2020 6:24 PM BST
You are missing something.

It is called an apostrophe.
Report morpteh mackem May 27, 2020 6:26 PM BST
I hope everyone who tests positive tomorrow gives Cummings  name as someone they've been in contact withMischief
Report Angoose May 27, 2020 6:26 PM BST
Hancock doesn't understand the distinction between isolation and quarantine Cry
I hope that his contact tracers do.
Report wolf3011 May 27, 2020 6:26 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:26PM, morpteh mackem wrote:


I hope everyone who tests positive tomorrow gives Cummings  name as someone they've been in contact with


Grin

Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:26 PM BST
yeh but could be  asympomatic for 10 days 1st infecting them ,that's why presently you do 7 and they do 14,they could get it of you without you both knowing, and spread it anywhere and everywhere its foooking madness,plus it could be 48 hrs plus before you even find out ,where you can infect your family
Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:27 PM BST
seriously I don't get it,its a worse system than we,ve got now
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:28 PM BST
We established there are no excess deaths by ethnic group from the actual data. Given number of deaths in London if anything white people more likely to die with Covid.
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:29 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:27PM, 1st time poster wrote:


seriously I don't get it,its a worse system than we,ve got now


If it works it will be better.At least we have capacity to test everyone who thinks they have it.. apparently.

Report Angoose May 27, 2020 6:29 PM BST
We just don't have the capacity to provide their test result.
Report wolf3011 May 27, 2020 6:29 PM BST
Just realised I paused sky and I am 13 minutes behind, no wonder the thread seems strange and out of sync
Report Angoose May 27, 2020 6:30 PM BST
Or count how many people have been tested.
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:30 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:29PM, Angoose wrote:


We just don't have the capacity to provide their test result.


88% within 24 hours I thought she said?

Report Angoose May 27, 2020 6:30 PM BST
Wouldn't it been nice if the PM was aware of that.
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:31 PM BST
Finally press moved on from the Cumming dead cat deflection.
Report Angoose May 27, 2020 6:32 PM BST
It aint over till its over.
Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:32 PM BST
its your civic duty to isolate for standing next to someone for 15 mins, but it could be days before you arecontaccted and the family you've been living with for 24/7 for 1,2,3,4  can jog on merrily,

seriously I don't get it
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:33 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:32PM, 1st time poster wrote:


its your civic duty to isolate for standing next to someone for 15 mins, but it could be days before you arecontaccted and the family you've been living with for 24/7 for 1,2,3,4  can jog on merrily,seriously I don't get it


I think the whole thing is a numbers game.

It is about reducing the spread. Will not be 100% water tight.

Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:34 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:32PM, 1st time poster wrote:


its your civic duty to isolate for standing next to someone for 15 mins, but it could be days before you arecontaccted and the family you've been living with for 24/7 for 1,2,3,4  can jog on merrily,seriously I don't get it


Just because u were next to someone who has it for 15 mins still unlikely you caught it. And then even more unlikely you passed it on etc.

Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:35 PM BST
People will move on Beth if you pipe down about Cummings.
Report morpteh mackem May 27, 2020 6:38 PM BST
didnt realise dido harding is married to a tory mp. must be barrel of laughs in their gaff.
Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:39 PM BST
unlikely you caught it in 15 mins, so why self isolate,and people you live with 24/7 who if you have got are almost certain to get it can do a cummings and happily spread it everywhere
Report differentdrum May 27, 2020 6:40 PM BST
What was that all about?

Nothing about Cummings? No question from Sky who have given the story most coverage. Pure coincidence?

Made to look an absolute fool by a couple of Labour MPs. Boris will probably see that as a successful day.

On today's evidence Cooper would have been useful as deputy leader.

I see the pinstripe bullet head is still happy to prop up the buffoon.
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:40 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:39PM, 1st time poster wrote:


unlikely you caught it in 15 mins, so why self isolate,and people you live with 24/7 who if you have got are almost certain to get it can do a cummings and happily spread it everywhere


Seems that is not the case. My daughter did not catch it when Husband got it. Evidence from Germany was only around 14%-28% spread when one person in household.

Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:44 PM BST
so it spreads more inside , so your safe living with someone 24/7 but isolate because you may or may not have made a contact outside,

sorry I,ll have to pass on this one and let the carnage commence
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:45 PM BST
If you have symptoms whole household will still have to isolate.

But now you can get a test. If negative all free to go.

This track and trace is another layer on top.
Report politicspunter May 27, 2020 6:46 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:44PM, 1st time poster wrote:


so it spreads more inside , so your safe living with someone 24/7 but isolate because you may or may not have made a contact outside, sorry I,ll have to pass on this one and let the carnage commence


Don't bother about it, do what you want. There are no rules with this government.

Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:47 PM BST

May 27, 2020 -- 6:46PM, politicspunter wrote:


May 27, 2020 --  5:44PM, 1st time poster wrote:so it spreads more inside , so your safe living with someone 24/7 but isolate because you may or may not have made a contact outside, sorry I,ll have to pass on this one and let the carnage commenceDon't bother about it, do what you want. There are no rules with this government.


Thats your choice if you want to spread it to friends family and the wider commnuity.

Report Des Pond May 27, 2020 6:50 PM BST
How is this going to work? It is as clear as mud, and the people who are already flouting the lockdown will ignore it completely.
Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:50 PM BST
what if you've passed  it on before they contact you ,or during incubation period or you Asymatic,
that's why family do 14 days now compared to someone with symptins doing 7
Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:52 PM BST
the theory only works if contacts get a test,and if tests are turned around in 24 hrs ,other wise its a waste of time
Report InsiderTrader May 27, 2020 6:53 PM BST
Contacts do not get a test unless have symptoms.

Tests basically useless without symptoms one person claimed.. not so sure myself
Report 1st time poster May 27, 2020 6:55 PM BST
exactly the same problems we,ve had for 12 weeks
Report Des Pond May 27, 2020 6:57 PM BST
It's too late for this. In terms of how long the virus has been around, and also because public trust and authority of the Govt have been undermined by their own reckless actions when normal people were trying to help them.
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