Emily Maitlis

May 27, 2020 -- 10:26PM, Angoose wrote:

She should simply have referenced the various opinions polls as the source of the monologue.

Trouble with opinion polls is they don't measure strength of feeling. If you asked me I would say Cummings should go. He took the piss out of the lockdown and told some convoluted nonsense to excuse himself.But I don't really care that he won't be going and am already bored with hearing about it. That is what most people think. The only people who are raging about him breaking the lockdown are the people that are still raging about him winning Brexit, and that is what they are really angry about.

I could care less about any of it including Brexit, virus, and all the stuff that will come of it because as a society its spineless and I alone can't stop that

Get on with it I say

that's pretty what I've been saying in a nutshell, majority of the country do not really care, but it's being endlessly conveyed via the media that the majority are up in arms, most people care much more about simple things, getting a haircut, kids going back to school, pubs reopening, football starting again, normal life resuming, not a middle aged bald man most hadn't heard of let alone recognise just a few days ago.

The mugs who voted for these clowns do not like it when it is made obvious they are being treated like mugs.

What he did or didn’t do, whether he did or didn’t break rules isn’t the issue.
It rarely is.

The issue, as always, is how the incident is perceived now and how it will be perceived in the future.
And we can’t say how it will be perceived in the future.

However, what we can say with reasonable certainty is that Johnson will be associated with the incident.
Good or bad, Johnson owns the actions of Cummings.

Angoose in Scotland Sturgeon initially defended Calderwood who refused to resign.
She only did so because a second trip was revealed.
If that second trip hadn't been revealed Calderwood would still be Scotlands CMO.
Can't remember you getting so animated over that incident.
BTW you do know that Calderwood hasn't disappeared altogether, don't you?

Calderwood admitted that she was wrong and apologised.
Sturgeon said she was wrong and had made a big mistake.

Cummings said he has done nothing wrong.
Johnson has said that Cummings has done nothing wrong.

Quite a significant difference there, don’t you think.

A little humility goes a long way.

And we can’t say how it will be perceived in the future.

It will be forgotten in a couple of weeks by everyone except fanatical Remainers. Just like the Lady Hale verdict and the 'die in a ditch' 'lie'. Hard core Remainers thinking it will be a game changer/turning point but most people thinking so what.

The incidents were completely different.
Calderwood made her trips for a break and nothing else so she couldn't do anything other than apologise.
Cumming was taking his 4 year old to be near relatives in case they were needed for child care.
Why should he apologise for that?

ffs ackie give us all a break and return to your 50p "sit and go".

There was more anger with Calderwood because the news broke early in the lockdown, when it was widely seen as essential, and there was no end in sight for it.

Cummings antics were early on too but the press inexplicably sat on the story Now people figure it will all be over in a few weeks anyway and there is the growing suspicion that the lockdown has made no difference.

May 28, 2020 -- 12:55AM, akabula wrote:

The incidents were completely different.Calderwood made her trips for a break and nothing else so she couldn't do anything other than apologise.Cumming was taking his 4 year old to be near relatives in case they were needed for child care.Why should he apologise for that?

You believe the eye test story

And I didn’t make any comparison on the incidents, I made a comparison to how the incidents were explained by the individuals and their managers.

I deliberately missed that part out as I've said elsewhere that that part seemed contrived however it doesn't detract from the main reason for the trip to his parents farm.
I saw an article on the irish premier being on a picnic with friends and not social distancing. Slap on the wrist.
This Cummings story has animated people like nothing else has. A lot of people just hate the Tory party.

I asked you this on a thread on the politics forum but you failed to respond.
You are all over most anti-Tory threads like a rash but fail to get involved in any threads highlighting problems in Scotland.
The 'Nike' outbreak for instance is surely a bigger scandal than anything else that has happened so far. The lack of transparency is alarming.

And he runs away from the truth yet again.

That they didn’t splash it over the front pages is not an issue.
That they didn’t trace all the contacts, however, is a big problem.

All governments are going to have a lot of difficult questions to answer, Sturgeon’s is no exception.

I agree. Mistakes, and thats what they were, have been made in Scotland and England and no doubt all over the world yet you seem to focus purely on Englands mistakes.
The Nike story is only beginning and one must wonder why Sturgeon was less than truthful about it.
She said rigorous tracking and tracing had been been done. Now we find out thats not true.
A far bigger risk to health than anything Cummings is said to have done but hasn't animated you. Strange.

As I said earlier, humility goes a long way.

You’ll disagree with me, but the Nike story is being blown out of proportion.
The virus was here from many sources.

The issue around it is the contact tracing.
And we don’t have the answers as to why there wasn’t sufficient action taken.

It will likely be a matter of lack of urgency and resources, not a conspiracy.

The story is about the lies that were told following the breaking of the initial story.

She's got a face like a 10p ****

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27 May 20 22:47
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The mugs who voted for these clowns do not like it when it is made obvious they are being treated like mugs.






And that just about sums it up perfectly.

I am only grateful that Corbyn,Abbot,Lavery,Butler and Pidcock are not in power.

people hate the tory party just had best election result in 40 years, ,

people are more worried about friends,family,haircuts,pubs etc,etc,thats the whole fooking point,they cant ,HE CAN,and the fact lots of the public are watching more news,press conferences etc,etc, has took the story out of the bubble
you could quite easily put back up the andy Coulson threads and change the name to dom cummings,but worse here cummings doesn't care if they drags the tory party down with him,he hates them,despises them ,probably disgusted he has to work with likes of hancock,shapps,williamson,jenrick every day,despises them even more for going on live tv making fools of themselves defending him

if cummings goes ( he wont imo ) he will take  a few with him.

A rather comical part is lefty people refer to Sturgeon as showing great leadership. However, she tried to stand by Calderwood in possession of the facts, copped a lot of flack from the media for doing so, and soon caved in to them to protect her own reputation. Caving in to the media and remoaners would have been an awful lot easier for Boris. I don't doubt it's tough for some Tory MPs to answer to some constituents taken in by the media frenzy, but they need to see the bigger picture of what's going on here (As Boris does).

cummings won't go without this job he's just another alt-right troll

maitlis i didn't see but no place on bbc for editorialising so should go if she was naughty

WALOFS 55% OF THOSE VOTING FOR BREXIT WANHT HIM TO GO, but good try,have another go,autistic son maybe, corona lockdown in London trilogy,i think its all corbyns fault

bigger picture is 65,000 deaths but a sad kooont like you wants to bang on a Brexit,remoaners.
steve baker
peter bone
penny mourdant
peskey left wing remoaners,

Gvnt announces the launch of track and trace but Sky News still thinks Cummings is the lead story along with the left wing newspapers. After five days of the same sh1t. Yes 95% of Cummings enemies are remoaners. He has p1ssed of a handful of Breiters on the way.

So yes, the bigger picture for the country is navigating the crisis, not the Cummings vendetta. Tell that to your guardianista buddies.

It was actually 56% of leavers want cummings to resign,the trace and track app is another distraction as it's another total disaster,i presume they will chuck a few more out there yet as well as there's probably plenty more in the tank..

after 65,000 deaths worst or 2nd worst in world only the right wing lemmings need reminding ,
nice to see failing grayling getting 7 torys to oppose quarantine at airports, because of economy rather than trying tooust cummings or get virus under control

56% of those polled I'm assuming. If only results were determined by polling and twatter

wakey,wakey giggilo you disappoint me

when the media,S on your case what Gets on the front pages a successful roll out or a complete car crash,dom cummings sent this out early primed to fail,
come on WAKEY,WAKEY

IF CUMMINGS tells  you theres a £10 note near your right shoe,look at your left shoe there,ll be a £50 note,

Make sure you sanitize it first.

I suspect you'll find the magic money tree on your left as well.

Mr Cummings will be kept under surveillance 24/7 until the ending of lockdown, I firmly believe. If he strays one centimetre outside the guideline he'd be toast instantly. But, I think it's time to move on until such a time should prevail.

its the tory front and back benches not moving on karen brady,brokenshire latest to break ranks,they can see the anger if all goes belly up at least some tory,s need to give themselves some cover

1st time poster 28 May 20 11:23 
its the tory front and back benches not moving on karen brady,brokenshire latest to break ranks,they can see the anger if all goes belly up at least some tory,s need to give themselves some cover





Eh?

Brokenshire is spot on. Police do the law and Boris does #10 hiring and firing. 'break ranks'  you lot have completely lost the polt.

#plot

1st TP needs a lay down; this Cummings mass murder of the innocent has really gotten to him

He could start another thread on the topic.

i was going to post the full list of Tory MPs for him to tick off on his quest. Alas by the time i typed them out metinks twould be too late, & i would suffer the Chit Chatty ignomy of KEEP UP! being yelled at my poor self

BBC APOLOGISE OVER MAAITLIS telling a fact,

att general tweets a lie about an on going  case,

Only one person confirmed guilty as charged, poor Emily and her luvvie defenders

laura tweets another bare faced lie

It's a specific requirement inserted in to her contract of employment.

bbc had 18,000 complaints about emily, therfore 76,000000 +didnt complain . 

like when skinner said " half of you tories are crooks you "
speaker says ," you have to withdraw that"
so skinner says , "ok half of you are not crooks"

Sensible people don't watch Newsnight, elis. So 18,000 guardianistas with a guilty conscience is a fair wack.

How many people who are still watching TV at 10.30pm are interested in politics. What is the average audience? 1 million tops. I have tried and failed a few times in the past to get registered to make a comment to the BBC and have never managed to do so yet so how many does that narrow it down to. 250,000?

297,000 before the corona stuff

I see Maitlis is using the usual handbook to try to garner sympathy.

1. Take the next broadcast off
2. Tweet your gratitude for all the "Support" you've been getting
3. Wait for left wing cretins to laud you on twitter
4. Wait for the BBC to back down once they see the amount of tweets supporting you

She was a disgrace on the broadcast and should be sacked

yes far more disgraceful than the prime minister lying effortlessly and endlessly on national tv.

Boris doing a great job of fighting this virus whilst running the country.

he cant walk and chew gum. worlds highest death rate on his record.yes great job eh?

all politicians are economical with the truth - they're trained to be so
BBC employees should be scrupiously unbiased - she wasn't
here endeth the lesson

You seem to be revelling in that fact.
Whats your expertise and how do you know that other countries are as fastidious as us in the recording of covid19 related deaths?

dont be so stupid.i am appalled at the figures. i just dont like liars.do you think he doesnt lie?

matliss told the truth

the death figures are not Corona Virus deaths, they are Corona Virus 'related' deaths, two completely different things, meaning the numbers are inflated, it includes all the people who have died with the virus and not just of the virus.

imaybe the problem with Maitlis is that her interview with a certain Royal, was perceived to be a fantastic piece of investigative journalism by all the media back-slappers & sycophants. When in fact Basil Brush could have done the same job; when you have an absolute numpty sat in front of you. A delusion of grandeur perhaps

You are using the deaths to fuel your hatred of the Tories.
Do you think that the scientist, the medical experts and the NHS in general carry any part of the blame or is it just Boris?
Figures in Scotland are worse than the UKs in loads of respects. Is Boris to blame?

Where has 19pts gone?
Clueless to the facts but happy to knock the Tories.

looking forward to seeing the bbc ,been unbiased,keeping a straight face reporting on when the LOOTING STARTS THE SHOOTING STARTS

if we get attacked by another country do they still have to be unbiased,no opinion,or does the charter have certain circumstances where the guidelines change, serious question
bit worrying that guido fawkes have 1000,s of fanboys on speed dial ready to do as their told

maitlis gets  warned off for agreeing with 81% of uk public and durham police
same people complaining agree with uk government and PM,MUTING BBC/ITV journo,s and gagging to scientists at a pandemic press conference
joe biden has to apologise for telling a black guy he,s not black if voting for trump,as trump tweets to his 80 million followers when THE LOOTING STARTS THE SHOOTING STARTS,
got to love these populists

Kudos to Flushgordon for pointing this out

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=zelda+terrahawks&iax=images&ia=images
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But the public opinion if largely formed by things they hear from people like Maitlis so it is inevitable that a majority will share those views.

was reading this  morning as some people in the country didn't agree with her ,she broke the rules

so i,m assuming those on the right guido fawkes nut jobs would want maitlis to be impartial about a terrorist attack if some people in the country agreed with it,
its known as the law of unintended  consequence,s,or law of the sod

i didnt go anywhere. i have a life.also have an opinion,a sense of right and wrong and enough life experience to know when someone is telling me lies and taking the p1ss out of me. its nothing to do with hating tories.i just hate liars.

May 29, 2020 -- 1:43PM, 1st time poster wrote:

was reading this  morning as some people in the country didn't agree with her ,she broke the rulesso i,m assuming those on the right guido fawkes nut jobs would want maitlis to be impartial about a terrorist attack if some people in the country agreed with it,its known as the law of unintended  consequence,s,or law of the sod

That's right, she was found guilty of breaking the rules. Almost as delicious as election night last December

i vaguely remember seeing  Maitlis's legs buckle; when the opinion poll surfaced

so you condone liars by your lack of response to my question?

Maitless still in denial about brexit,hates Cummings & no one at the bbc had the ***** to reign her in.

thats fair enough its your opinion.are people not allowed to say they think the whole affair stinks and they have all lied and took the british public for fools.

There are plenty of other news feeds that have got an axe to grind .me ,I’d prefer the bbc just to report the news rather than to try to influence public opinion.

well watch the news at 10,clus in the name

It’s called balance,a premise you probably don’t understand.

heard the sky presenter this afternoon
1st interview the lady sage behavouril scientist who,s interviewed on tv nearly everyday, pointing out before she spoke she was a longstanding labour supporter
then interviewed a bloke about schools returning and pointed out he worked for a left wing thinking think tank

fair enough but never heard them introduce them like that before

and they don't introduce grimes,harwood,moffatt etc as right wing nut jobs

good point.

just read torygraph online and besides fanboy tom banging on about doris putting the fear of god in EU by keeping cummings,the rest could be on front paywall or guardian or mirror

May 29, 2020 -- 8:50PM, 1st time poster wrote:

heard the sky presenter this afternoon1st interview the lady sage behavouril scientist who,s interviewed on tv nearly everyday, pointing out before she spoke she was a longstanding labour supporterthen interviewed a bloke about schools returning and pointed out he worked for a left wing thinking think tankfair enough but never heard them introduce them like that beforeand they don't introduce grimes,harwood,moffatt etc as right wing nut jobs

It's about time left wing elitists and labour activists masquerading as neutral experts are identified.

agreed as long as the knucklegraggers are pointed out as well

The broadcast media doesn't surreptitiously use activists in the guise of neutral contributors that have right leanings though does it. Only left wing elitists get those gigs.

Carol Malone is feisty though

On BBC’s flagship documentary programme, Panorama, recently, one of the main interviewees was Professor John Ashton. His left-wing political affiliations were not mentioned. This is curious because the programme was broadcast on 27 April. Two weeks before, Guido Fawkes, on Twitter, ran a clip from Sky News in which the presenter introduced Ashton as “the former president of the faculty of public health, Professor John Ashton; we should also say he’s been a member of the Labour Party at various points.” Ashton shouted back: “Where did that stuff come from about the Labour Party? I am not a member of the Labour Party… I have not been in the Labour Party for over a year… Please don’t politicise this.”

As Guido Fawkes pointed out on 13 March, when Professor Ashton appeared on BBC 1’s Question Time, where he vigorously attacked the government’s Covid policy, he had been introduced as a “former regional director of Public Health England for the North West.” What viewers were not told was that two years ago he described himself as a “broad left, radical, non trot, baby boomer, green, gender inclusive, feminist labour Party member for 53 years.” Panorama had somehow missed all this or chose to ignore it.

Another regular media pundit is Professor Susan Michie. When she appeared on Radio 4’s Broadcasting House on Sunday, 24 May, she was introduced as a member of a sub-group of SAGE, and went on to attack Cummings. When the Conservative MP, Sir Peter Bottomley was introduced, he pointed out that Professor Michie “has been a member of a far left party for decades [The British Communist Party], donated more to the Labour Party under Corbyn than I’ve given to the Tory party in forty years, was the wife of a former Labour Party special adviser and mother of Labour’s head of complaints. That might have been better than just saying she’s a member of SAGE.” The presenter, Paddy O’Connell, criticised Bottomley for his “ad hominem attack”, rather than acknowledging his and the programme’s shocking omissions.

All three BBC programmes misled the viewers/listeners by presenting a speaker with well-known left-wing, anti-government affiliations as simply a medical scientist.

How do we do journalism?
When Andrew Marr interviewed Pippa Crerar, Political editor of the Mirror, on Sunday 24 May he asked her how she broke the Cummings story that weekend. She said, “We have just done old-fashioned traditional journalism.” No follow-up question from Marr. Nothing like, “Come off it! You just managed to track down the two people in the whole of Durham who happened to have allegedly spotted Cummings? Are you sure they didn’t contact the two main left-wing newspapers in the country and hand you the story?” Even if this wasn’t the case, surely the question was worth asking. Not on the BBC.

Balance on the BBC
Much of Radio 4’s Today programme on 25 May was taken up with the Cummings story. I only heard one defender of Cummings, the Education Secretary. Opposed to him were a Labour shadow minister and numerous other critics of Cummings.

In addition, the news bulletins during the programme quoted various bishops who had criticised Cummings. Apparently, not a single bishop supported Cummings.

Who are these people?
On Tuesday 26 May The World at One quoted a Conservative MP, Harriett Baldwin, who had criticised Cummings and therefore, implicitly, Boris Johnson. The BBC forgot to mention that Johnson had fired Baldwin and that she had then supported Jeremy Hunt in the leadership campaign. On the same day, James Vincent, BBC Yorkshire’s Political Editor, quoted a Tory MP who had criticised Cummings and Johnson, but omitted to mention that the MP was anti-Brexit. Might this have coloured his view of them?

Running orders
On Tuesday’s World at One the BBC led with the Cummings story. There were no big new revelations. A Scottish Tory MP I had never heard of had resigned as a Junior Minister and a few Tory MPs I had never heard of had criticised Cummings and the PM. That was it. No new revelations. In the meantime, mortality figures had fallen dramatically, small shops were to be opened, US deaths were due to pass 100,000 that day. None of these stories were considered as important as this obscure Scottish Tory.

We always assume media bias is obvious. Sometimes it isn’t. It often takes subtle forms. What’s missed out as much as what’s said. The follow-up question that’s never asked. How guests are introduced. But there are also spectacular examples of clear bias like the preachy introduction to last night’s Newsnight by Emily Maitlis, which has created a firestorm on social media. The journalist Stephen Pollard, no fan of Cummings, tweeted, “there can be a place for editorialising on TV, but not in the intro to a flagship BBC analysis programme.” The Daily Mail, also no supporter of Cummings, wrote, “BBC is blasted for ‘bare-faced bias’ after Emily Maitlis states as fact that Dominic Cummings ‘broke the rules’.”

The programmes I have mentioned are not trivial. These are the best-known news programmes on the BBC. They are all guilty of bias on some of the biggest British news stories in years.

words reached me that Emily enjoyed ian hislop on HIGNFY last night, ,wwith about 20  times more viewer,s  than newsnight,trending on twitter,been  shown all around the  world on social media.

You carry on thinking twatter is representative if it makes you feel better

It only serves to make the reverses twatter experiences all the more satisfying.

May 30, 2020 -- 11:20AM, Baphornet wrote:

Carol Malone is feisty though

She has a nice kitchen

trump credit,s it with getting him elected, I suppose you like trump would censor the bits you don't like

I favour free speech, however not on the BBC, paid for by the tx tax.

ironic post 1st TP

Cider...Carole Malones kitchen is indeed nice,at least 30 grands worth without the labour, i would like a bit of 6/4 she rarely cooks though. Peace.

I,d like 6 to 4,she rarely doesn't eat,

I d take 1/16 on that.Free money that is

How is it that Victoria Derbyshire can pass personal opinion on the George Floyd situation?

I look forward to the reprimand.

go on emily.well done girl.free speech is alive and well as long as some still have heart.unlike the fridge finder general.