UK Stazi and politically motivative hyprocritcal press

Is this consistent with the view you took when The Telegraph splashed their belated revelations about Neil Ferguson ?

That Steve Baker is a real leftie loon.

Durham Police outed as deep-state leftists

20 years of press doing it to the guys everyone else on here likes has been fine though

what is out of step is downing street calling it a tissue of lies they wont comment on,before one by one admitting its true but giving ridiculous reasons on what they previously called lies ,was perfectly within the guidelines, they've so far labled the durham police,guardisn,observer,mirror,and 2 witnesses liars ,who do you think will be liars by 5 0 clock this afternoon
downing street hour by hour coming out with reasons why cummings did things they said never happened an hour before

The remoaner left DESPISE cummings, as I said yesterday it's not rational, he's a mystical demonic figure for spitting hate amongst the islington set.

They are going to keep gunning for him. He helped cause brexit, and if you are yoghurt eating woke traitor at the BBC or Grauniad, that's as evil as a man can be..

Government decided to make it a story by rallying around DC and later basically implying f the guidelines

sure plenty of us will still hate him but if it was purely a decision done out of love for his child etc, plenty of normies would have been fine with an apology

JC writing about behaviour not being rational then following it up with his usual unhinged rantings

Who informed Durham Police?

What is wrong with people who insist on going running to Guardian and the police at every turn?

If the Guardian thought is was in the public interest that should have put the story up immediately.

Angoose I agree with you on Neil Ferguson. His lack of belief in his research by his actions not his words could have been made public in early April we could have potentially saved billions and many many lives.  When someone goes against their own 'science' so clearly and is on the airwaves day in day out saying one thing and doing another that is in the public interest. Press sitting on that story was also a disgrace.

Are you losing the plot IT?

Do you think the press should not have reported on Fergusson’s Mistress turning up at his house or Calderwood visiting her second home?

Is there a difference between Demonic Cummings hypocrisy and the other two?

"unhinged"?
The way the remonaer left went absoltute balistic because Cummings sat in on sage meetings a few weeks ago shows all you needc to know about how they are gunning for him and want his head on a spike. That is a methaphor aaron, before you make some pathetic childish trolling attempt to say I mean that literally, as is your level.

A top advisor sitting in on an important metting that is not top secret is of course the most reasonable thing in the world. Any rational intelligent person can see that. Not to the cumming hate mobs though. They had their pitch forks sharpened.

the sound of right wing knicker elastic twanging is deafening this morning,glorious to hear

if I had a big scoop about the Conservatives I would simply go to the outlets that would be most open to running the story

likewise Labour. you know who would prefer to run a hypocrisy story on them far more than others.

People haven't been able to see kids/grandkids/ill people in hospital/go to funerals would have wanted to use common sense to do these things but decided to follow the guidelines, then see another person very important in government has not just decided to ignore them but then have half his mates at the top of the government defend him

sitting on stories is nothing new, whether it is good IDK but 24 hour news cycle is often damaging for journalism. was pretty good baiting the terrible excuses and denials out of the Gov before dropping another story hours later though

"Is there a difference between Demonic Cummings hypocrisy and the other two? "

Of coure there is. The person at the absolute top of the hysteria demanding we a lockdown was knobbing someone's wife which requires intimate contact, totally optional and for fun.

The other was going back to his home area to live in a house with his family so that they had wider family support as they were ill.
In that house they had food parcels delivered.
Which seems quite reasonable actually if they had no such support network for themselves and their child in London.

Just Checking • May 24, 2020 10:42 AM BST
"unhinged"?

he's a mystical demonic figure for spitting hate amongst the islington set.

They are going to keep gunning for him. He helped cause brexit, and if you are yoghurt eating woke traitor at the BBC or Grauniad, that's as evil as a man can be..

was a very weird post, need to try and solve those anger problems

Aah, IT. Interesting that you mention hypocrisy. Just after your opinion on the below:


May 23, 2020 -- 3:04PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

politicspunter23 May 20 14:56   We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.You must be almost the only person in the UK that thinks that.^PP defended the Scottish CMO when she went on a jolly to her holiday home.Some people who lost money because of Boris taking power seem to think protecting your family is the same thing as inviting a mistress over or going on holiday.


Interesting line from IT here.

Of course, when the forum was discussing Ferguson breaking the lockdown a couple of weeks ago, his attitude was slightly different.

Even before he inspired the lockdown someone leaving a house where someone was thought to have the virus was unacceptable.

In fact, that was his view.


Leaving the house where some may have the virus was unacceptable back then. Of course now that it's his favourite unelected establishment figure it's "What is the problem?"





No wonder this country's going to the dogs so quickly.

yes, unbelievable seething by the moronic right wing

So he is still a hypocrite!

It is just the level of hypocrisy, brilliant.

aaron do you not realise how obvious and pathetic your trolling is? I mean you've been at this for years and never grow up. Do you think it's clever?

like pretty much any political situation, DC will be brought down (or not) by his own party and the press that is favourable to him and the Conservatives and not the evil remainers and leftie activists

May 24, 2020 -- 10:51AM, Just Checking wrote:

aaron do you not realise how obvious and pathetic your trolling is? I mean you've been at this for years and never grow up. Do you think it's clever?

seems to work every time i throw some low effort bait out there about the garbage you post

Just Checking do you not realise how obvious and pathetic your trolling is? I mean you've been at this for years and never grow up. Do you think it's clever?

It was his own father that let the cat out the bag. His father called the police asking about some security matter, and innocently told them that Dom was here.

Cummings and wife are real nasty for using his child as the excuse for travel when they dressed their son up as a doctor and mads him take their temperatures when they were sick

Maybe his dad was a remoaner and wanted to get the Bstard

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Are you losing the plot IT?

Do you think the press should not have reported on Fergusson’s Mistress turning up at his house or Calderwood visiting her second home?

Is there a difference between Demonic Cummings hypocrisy and the other two?



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Aah, IT. Interesting that you mention hypocrisy. Just after your opinion on the below:


May 23, 2020 -- 3:04PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

politicspunter23 May 20 14:56   We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.You must be almost the only person in the UK that thinks that.^PP defended the Scottish CMO when she went on a jolly to her holiday home.Some people who lost money because of Boris taking power seem to think protecting your family is the same thing as inviting a mistress over or going on holiday.


Interesting line from IT here.

Even before he inspired the lockdown someone leaving a house where someone was thought to have the virus was unacceptable.

^

Cummings choose to self-isolate in Durham with his support network. Cummings was not screaming in the press and on TV that everyone should be under house arrest.

Ferguson produced his numbers. Influenced policy massively. Got himself in the media countless times. Whilst all the time having his married mistress over for presumably intimate contact.

Culderwood was in the media daily telling people what to do like some kind of jumped up school teacher whilst all the time going on weekend jollies to her second home.

So - just to be sure - leaving the house whilst infected is now acceptable?

Cummings doesn't say anything,attributable,to the press. He hides behind patsies like elected politicians and scientists.

Nobody takes any notice of the media other than the already converted msn is dieing they are struggling to attract the youth some news papers have resorted to begging for donations and the BBC is meltdown over Netflix YouTube and Facebook in the next 10 years most of today's media will have gone

I'd say quite a few people have been taking notice of the media in the last day or so to be fair.

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So - just to be sure - leaving the house whilst infected is now acceptable?

^

Infected? Or having symptoms?

Clearly in some circumstance yes.

insider trade/cider must be either shapps,williamsonm,.hancock etc,
shut the fooook up your making yourself sound absolutely stupid trying to defend this shoite show,

i

lol, just imagining in bizarro world where Seumas had been swanning up and down the country

would have been some insane posts on here

The only people taking any notice are the already converted mainly from the older generation

And yet you said it was unacceptable just a few short weeks ago. How odd. What's changed I wonder.

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insider trade/cider must be either shapps,williamsonm,.hancock etc,
shut the fooook up your making yourself sound absolutely stupid trying to defend this shoite show,

i

^

This is the level of debating from the haters.

Shocking stuff.

this might be one of the first "Twitter isn't real life" things that the right falls on the wrong side of. they simply dismiss it as weird FBPE types on Twitter getting outraged when it is way more than that

the last tory boy non story got 18months in chokey

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And yet you said it was unacceptable just a few short weeks ago. How odd. What's changed I wonder.

^

Surely you can see the difference between a married woman living her husband, who she thought had Covid, to travel across London to have presumably intimate contact with another man from a different household is different from choosing which private house to go to isolate as a household with symptoms.

It is interesting the pro-EU types have no common sense interpretation of the guidance.

pro-EU types

embarrassing rhetoric

InsiderTrader, why were Cummings and his wife dressing their son Cedd up as a doctor and getting them to take their temperatures?

lordy be ,I,m getting scared now ,how much power does this bloke have,bloke on sky,bbc again saying why should he goe,

its the easiest slam dunk resignation in political history for media ,journo to have an opinion,up to doris.cummings what they do,but for journo,s their embarrassing themselves

even shapps now admittyimng barnard castle trip ,in.out of so called isolation 30 mile jaunts on easter sunday were a big government/cummings NO,NO, police turning people,cars away from  beauty spots

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InsiderTrader, why were Cummings and his wife dressing their son Cedd up as a doctor and getting them to take their temperatures?

^

Maybe ask him.

Anybody who calls their child Cedd should be sacked immediately.

Cedd (Latin: Cedda, Ceddus; c. 620 – 26 October 664) was an Anglo-Saxon monk and bishop from the Kingdom of Northumbria. He was an evangelist of the Middle Angles and East Saxons in England and a significant participant in the Synod of Whitby, a meeting which resolved important differences within the Church in England. He is venerated in the Catholic Church, Anglicanism, and the Eastern Orthodox Church.

May 24, 2020 -- 11:20AM, InsiderTrader wrote:

PorcupineorPineapple24 May 20 10:13Joined: 03 Dec 15| Topic/replies: 9,603 | Blogger: PorcupineorPineapple's blogAnd yet you said it was unacceptable just a few short weeks ago. How odd. What's changed I wonder.^Surely you can see the difference between a married woman living her husband, who she thought had Covid, to travel across London to have presumably intimate contact with another man from a different household is different from choosing which private house to go to isolate as a household with symptoms.It is interesting the pro-EU types have no common sense interpretation of the guidance.

But you weren't concerned about intimacy then. You simply stated it was unacceptable to leave the house if you're symptomatic. Now you're twisting and trying to re-write your own words trying to defend your favourite multi-millionaire.

We've got a guy who actually sat in on SAGE meetings and then advised the PM of the day whose instruction was categorical - STAY HOME. No ifs or buts. No "use your common sense and interpret the message how you see fit" (you love a deep dive; if you can find a use-your-common-sense-don't-take-this-literally message from the dates concerned I'll send £10 to the charity of your choice; if you can't, then maybe send one to Alder Hey. Deal?) If you get it then you get on with it, don't involve others and risk spreading it.


Just amusing that you yourself start a thread railing against hypocrisy  and fail to comment on this most hypocritical of stances from someone at the very heart of the government message centre and indeed of your own sudden change of heart when it suits.



This place still raises a smile thankfully.

fook me thatsanother vison gone,i thought he was conceived behind a shed

Cedd was 7th century though,what's wrong with more modern names like Ethelbert or Wulfstan ?

PP, did he leave home once he was was lockdown with symptoms in Durham?

If he did then he will have broken the guidance.

I am also concerned that Hancock was out and about so soon after actually being positive. In Spain you have to wait 14 days after your first negative test before you can leave isolation.

It was always going to be the case that we would be able to substitute Ferguson with Cummings.

It’s one rule for them and another for us. They can carry on enjoying sneaky freedoms because their lives and jobs are important; we can’t because we are mere little people, whose silly work lives can casually be disrupted, whose love lives can be turned upside down, and whose families can be ripped apart. The Cummings affair provides an illuminating insight into the new elitism.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/06/what-neil-fergusons-booty-call-tells-us-about-modern-politics/

h/t edy.

Hypocritical press you say?

May 24, 2020 -- 12:05PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

PP, did he leave home once he was was lockdown with symptoms in Durham?If he did then he will have broken the guidance.I am also concerned that Hancock was out and about so soon after actually being positive. In Spain you have to wait 14 days after your first negative test before you can leave isolation.

Nope, his home is in London. As we've seen, going to stay in a second home or relatives was not permitted. Once his missus came down with it, the clear instruction was to stay inside for at least 14 days, not get off to a castle 250 miles away.

Again, if you can prove the wriggle room in the instructions at the time then have at it.

The government messaging on this was very clear :  TRAVEL 260 Miles - Protect The NHS -  Save Lives

The guidance was to isolate. If he broke that then he has broken the guidance.

dom really does need a nanny/housekeeper,same smelly tee shirt today as yesterday,been on cider all night

May 24, 2020 -- 12:47PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

The guidance was to isolate. If he broke that then he has broken the guidance.

Who this guidance is for
This guidance is for people planning to visit second homes or holiday premises during the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

Essential travel does not include visits to second homes, camp sites, caravan parks or similar, whether for isolation purposes or holidays. People should remain in their primary residence. Not taking these steps puts additional pressure on communities and services that are already at risk.

Read further travel guidance for British citizens travelling abroad and foreign travel advice for each country.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-essential-travel-guidance

and yes, it's been like that since before Cummings made his trip. Funny to witness your continued desperate attempts at somehow spinning things around on behalf of your favoured elites that hold you in total contempt.

much vaunted by tory,s ex durham police commissioner ron  hogg says live on bbc that cummings and his family could have blood on his hands,as London was at the peak of virus and very little in durham at the time this happened, strong stuff

The guidance was to stay at home.

There is no doubt he is bang to rights, however I do think there is a lot of mock outrage at the same time, Christina Patterson on Sky last night was having a real meltdown, mostly because she was a staunch Remainer and Cummings was the architect of Brexit, so this was a great opportunity when it presented itself to go all in on the man who 'stole their futures', Remainers are queuing up and to take aim to try and bring him down. Brexiteers are nearly all defending him. The pressure is mostly coming from people who voted to stay in the EU. But they wont be honest about that being their main gripe.

Truth is he should resign as Catherine Calderwood did but given the type of character he is and how much he resents journalists I think he will hold on and Boris will not sack him, so will probably survive instead.

What is also very hypocritical was all the journalist congregating outside his home the last few mornings, all scrunched together taking pictures and shouting out questions, the rule still to maintain social distancing, what is that all about.

They're simply following Dom's example imo.

Seeing him sheepishly leaving the house with a binbag whilst get getting doorstepped and patronised by journalists is one the most of the most satisfying scenes ever

I think there's a lot of genuine outrage too though. My mum should be in Benidorm with her best friend now whose birthday it is today. Instead, she's just got off the phone to me in tears that her friend is gone and how guilty she feels that she couldn't even go to her funeral.

Stories of families and friends who have sacrificed so much in the recent weeks are common up and down the country. This has got nothing to do with brexit right now. It's about the very top of the government telling the plebs to do one thing while they swan about free as a bird and aren't remotely apologetic when caught out.

When you are happy to manipulate the media to further your personal and political aims, you really shouldn't be too surprised when, one day, they turn against you.

May 24, 2020 -- 1:35PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

I think there's a lot of genuine outrage too though. My mum should be in Benidorm with her best friend now whose birthday it is today. Instead, she's just got off the phone to me in tears that her friend is gone and how guilty she feels that she couldn't even go to her funeral.Stories of families and friends who have sacrificed so much in the recent weeks are common up and down the country. This has got nothing to do with brexit right now. It's about the very top of the government telling the plebs to do one thing while they swan about free as a bird and aren't remotely apologetic when caught out.

Spot on, and that's the message that Johnson will be getting from his MP's who, in turn, are receiving such messages from their constituents.

The 'rules' do not seem to apply to journalists or those on TV.

They all cram together and also have haircuts and makeup done.

Ah, the "other people are doing it" defence.

The pressure is mostly coming from people who voted to stay in the EU.

True. Brexiters are too corrupt in their defence of anything and anyone remotely connected to Brexit. Even if it's elites that that they claim to hate so much. Even if it's elites that disrespect and hold them in contempt at every opportunity.

Defence of what?

The reality is the whole lockdown is a farce and there is no evidence it has saved a single life.

Those who promoted it in the media (Ferguson and Calderwood) break it to have fun.

Cummings neither promoted to destructive policy in the media or appears to have had fun isolating.

Those who cannot tell the difference with their tunnel vison thinking are the sort that like the EU rulebook.

If he went walking whilst being infected and made multiple trips that could be a different matter.

Lets wait and see on that.

I think a lot of people would actually already be happy with a "I'm sorry" instead of Cummings head. You know, a bit of humility instead of trying to re-write history and propaganda. That this didn't immediately come forward says a lot of what he thinks about the population.

Only weaklings and lefties say sorry.

What's been happening also screams what the broader, complicit, unapologetic government thinks about the population.

enjoyed her meltdown,no problem with her venting her spleen,thery usually put her up with Brendan o,neil ,he only has to breath to wind her up

but as for leave/remain,it was cummings who said to reporter on his return to his house yesterday,about people been angry ,cummings said so what they/you angered me over Brexit,he brought it up

I mean, seriously...Boris as his chief in command should just tell him to apologise. The story is only blowing up because the government and Cummings, instead of acknowledging that it was a mistake and that travel guidance had been broken, are trying to retrospectively re-write the rules, are moaning about leftie media, enemies of the people, remoaners bla bla bla.

Do you really not understand that this total lack of any humility whatsoever is just total contempt for the population and towards those they are meant to serve?

The point I'm making is this, the vast majority of the public do not really care that much that Cummings secretly when to see his child, it's complete hysteria whipped up by our 24 hours mass media circus that gives off the impression that most people are besides themselves with the news, there were untold single dads out there who also went to see their children, my mums next door neighbour went to meet her kids/grandkids in Morrisons car park regularly during lockdown, one random example, and no doubt many people here can tell similar stories.

He was wrong, and given his position should resign, but there is no doubt the frenzy surrounding him is driven by Brexit, there's no chance remainers would be going as bat **** crazy right now if he was a remainer himself, it's pure opportunism, and there's no doubt Brexit MP's are being whipped to support him, all comes down to whether Boris succumbs to the pressure and let's him go, because he wont go himself.

how can you apologise when you've accused a police force of lying,media of lying,witness of lying,got dozens of  cabinet ministers to say you did nothing wrong
whats he going to do,apologise for doing nothing wrong, the police didn't lie,downing st speaking on behalf of doris lied,

I,m afraid their all in now, shoite or bust

as everyone on hear no,s ,its always the cover up that gets you

From this evening I must give the British people a very simple instruction "YOU MUST STAY AT HOME".

Apologising, even when you truly believe that you have done no wrong, is such an easy way to defuse a situation.
Something that you'd imagine these shrewd tacticians would know.

Why be tactically shrewd when you are the Olympic Mental Gymnastic Champion?