bias. why atheists are deluded and demented.

The heptadic structure of the bible proves god exists. No computer can emulated it


So constraints were created they cannot be replicated and that = divination ?
Not being able to replicate something doesn't make it divine, the above is a burden of proof fallacy, it is not for us to disprove something set up to be unprovable, the onus is on the person to prove God exists by showing us that God exists, not by presenting us with a structure.

Divination is randomly picking an outcome. Like throwing a dart at racing form. Anglo sacon witchcraft uses it. Scribeing. One symbol they use is infinity. The satanic cross. The leviathan cross. This is the mark of the beast.  666 is the number of a man. A recurring number. Like 888. A number symbolizing forever . Infinity is a conceptual idea of man. The universe has boundaries.

In Hebrew the letters are linked to numbers. As is the Greek language. In recent yrs we use hexadecimal in computers. In Hebrew six means man. Seven is god.  The bible uses sevens to authenticate the text.  Seven letter nouns used. Adverbs. 7 letter verbs. 7 letter propDr nouns. .... In some cases.. Seventy conditions.  That is compound odds of 7 to the power of seventy. The entire bible is formatted in this way. Write a sentence with seventy letters, divisible by seven. Using nouns with seven letters. Verbs. Proper nouns. (four conditions)  If you manage that. Add a story. Add a plot. It's writing with a level of complexity. We read the bible in English. Not Hebrew. Greek. Precise languages. That sir Isaac knew. Mathematically it's an accumulator. One chapter with seventy conditions is seventy horses in a row . 7x7x7x7x7 etc.  Ivan Palin was a mathematician, an agnostic. Until he investigated the bible after he wondered why in gospel of John the lettering structure was strange. In the beginning was the word and the word was with god and the word was god.  He wondered why the word for 'the' in Greek proceeded the word for 'god' in one case and not the other.  He investigated it for fifty yrs. Wrote to newspapers in USA. He wrote books. Died in 1943 . Not divisible by seven?   It's been estimated it would take millions of the best supercomputers trillions of years to lay out this type of formatting . Werr the authors of the bible aware all this was there when they wrote it down? They had the holy spirit guiding them.god himself. Jesus confirms that. I will send you the comforter to bring all things into remembrances. John 14,26.   How can a book written by shepherds.fishermen. Physician and illiterate typed transform society?. The big question is why? Israel was levelled in 66-70 ad. No mmention of that in bible. Therefore written pre destruction. Paul was very polite about the romans.  Israel destroyed land renamed Palestine by Rome.  1,878 yrs later it's back. 
Maths a real science proves Jesus is god. Mot a fuzzy warm feeling. Not I wish Jesus was ggod. I hope. Solid facts say Jesus is god. Only ignorance of the maths and the complexity of the bible structure means we Hagee an excuse. There is no excuse. Your court case is this life. job the prophet was tested. We also under go the same.  You condemn yourself. God condemns no one. You choose not to like god, to love what he did to be closer to you. Hevhung on a cross. His blood spilling out. At any moment he could have said enough. He forgave us. He completed the task. One of 360 plus. A roman pierced his side. Between the ribs. Blood and water pored out. Spilling on the ground. Emanuel the second Adam. Adams blood was spilled making eve? Why did god make eve from Adams rib. The rib is the only bone  in body that can regrow. An expert surgeon can remove a rib. Leaving the sheath behind. A new rib regrows into the empty sheath. Quite a coincidence. Adams blood falls to the ground. He gets a wife. A bride.   Jesus the bridegroom Matt 9.14. Gets a bride. We who love him. Christians.  He is the groom preparing the betrothed chamber. Many mansions. John 14,2. When all is prepared. He comes for us.  We are in love. A family. Not a religion. You nuts on earth are religious. No religion in heaven. Only a family. We are sons to the almighty. Corrupt on earth. Incorruptible in heaven. You remain flesh we ascend to god. Our father and brother and teacher is God. Jesus our brother is our high priest and king. .. You choose the world. It's lies and pale imitations. Example one. Muhammad. He tells his followers Jesus is a prophet. That he did not die on cross. 600 years after the event? He tries to negate Christ. He speaks to an angel for over twenty yrs. (Satan or Gabriel?) he says gods message was distorted by Jews and  Christians.  So god is incapable?  If I look at Shakespeare and say this four hundred yr old text is all wrong? I will correct it and change parts of it? Then I would be rightly called a plagiarist and loon. Muhammad was not foretold. He married a six yr old girl. Comsumated the marriage when she was nine.   1.8 billion people identify with a nonce.  A man who tortured villagers for gold. He massacred entire villages. Totally venal. He was poisoned by something he ate in a village he raided.  The bible tells it's readers false prophets die by poison.  Jeremiah 23.15

It all started to go wrong when we stopped human sacrifice

What else have the Romans  ever done for us?

God gets a lot of flack for stopping Human Sacrifice in bible. Richard Dawkins calls him a monster. God teold the Jews take out the tribes in the land I'm giving to you. The sacrifice to Baal and Satan. Children murdered. Is it wrong to allow children to be sacrificed. ... Historians on BBC a few months ago discussed child sacrifices in Greece . Bethany Hughes and sone pasty white guy. The carthaginians . One group. The Romans did it. Mayans. Aztecs. The pawnee is recorded too. So would the tribes of the middle east kill their children. Would you tolerate it in your land?.   Is god a monster Mr Dawkins or are we?   Genocide of mmillions. Not some wicked tribes. Longmeat. Cannibalism.    When the jews strayed and worshipped false gods and sacrificed people. The chosen ppeople were captured by Babylon. God punished them.  Restored seventy years later-19.  mirrored by 1948 + 19. 1967. 

Last week on news a father in Syria said. His two young sons were kidnapped off street. Months passed. They found the boys heads. He said what kind of people could do this.. It's never been like this?.  Yes it has.

Whilst there are a lot of people who take great comfort from religion, there are a lot of others who have sore arses.

Bible took over a thousand years to write give or take, excluding the 400 years of silence, if it was written in a month I'd be more believing.

When you say God are you alluding to there being only one?

The bible incorporates over 8000 predictive texts. About over 750 matters . JOB is the oldest book dated to 1900 bc. Then the writimy stops around 450 bc. This is the Torah. Tanakh. Kept seperate from the Christian faith. The Christian bbile has 39 Jewish books. 27 adred books that deal with the messiah and the fulfillment of over 360 plus prophecies. If it was written all at once. There would be no predictive texts.
The lamentable ignorance of Yahweh. Of Yeshua Ben Yosef. Of Eliaser the holy spirit.  In a supposed Christian ccountry . Shows that Britain is mostly a pagan country. Anglo Saxon witchcraft is secure here.

Where did my posting about tower house and David Bowie go? Too hot to handle?

"THEY" say we're to stop eating animals, we have to eat insects to save the planet. What did God say about that?

What about all the people who are mentally incapacitated or of average intelligence, such as myself, not having the capacity to understand the sheer levels of complexities in understanding ancient and highly ambiguous religious texts, are we all going to hell? not our fault is it.

The Bible has many contradictions

Light - God created light on Day 1, yet later on says the Sun was not created til Day 4.

Creation - Birds, animals and trees were created before man one minute, but later on in the same book Man was created first. Man and women were created at the same time, but later on Man was created first.

Death - Adam will die if he eats forbidden fruit, Adam went on to live for 930 years

Vision - the Israelites had to cover their homes in blood so God could see where they were frequenting, but then later on says God sees everything. Nothing is hidden from him.

God himself - a man of war, fierce and angry one minute, later described as a man of love and peace

Commandments - one being to honour your mum and dad, but you have to turn on your whole family to be a disciple.

the list in endless.

One god. A trinity. And Satan and fallen angels who bbelieve they are gods. But they are creations not the creator. They are playing parts. Zeus. Apollo. They created Hinduism. The trimurti.. Is how Satan has described heaven. Half truth. Hate bs. Which makes it all bs.  Satan wants yoh to believe stories. Evolution or evilution is the latest fake belief. Mixing truth with bs. A real diamond exists and it's in a cup with some cut glass. Do you throw it all out. Or do you test out all the stones. The bible is verifiable. Thor Is a guy with a hammer? Hindu gods are blue. A filter must be applied to all writings. Testing it. I cannot tell the future. God can. I cannot do what Jesus did. Nobody could. Even as pure fiction. How do you marry the old testament to the new. A gap of 450 yrs. Jesus fulfills 360 plus predictions. One condition. Being born in Bethlehem is 35,000 to one. Then he is a son of David. Then he heals people. He is a teacher. He is whipped. He is crowned king. He is crucified. He dies for our sins?  That's eight factors.  if it's a clever story. Then we have genius wwriter's. Who sifted the old testament and made a masterpiece ? 360 plot points. Who is getting paid? What is the motivation . To screw with their aancestors?  Jesus arrived in Jerusalem in aApril 32 AD. This is the exact time predicted by Daniel 9.22 - 27. Isaac newton wrote a million plus words about daNeil and revelation.  You cannot control time? You cannot force history over thousands of yrs. Yet the bible succeeds in this. Which is God's verification . Israel exists. And Joshua Ben David. Who was Joshua Ben yosef . Jesus. The new Joshua. Who leads us into the promised land of heaven. Will fulfill another prophecy and sit in Jerusalem as king. Father to David. Son of David.  God made space-time. He dictates it. We are on train tracks. Unalienable. Determined.

If Adam and Eve had been Chinese, they would have eaten the serpent.

It would have saved a lot of trouble.

Lots of questions. Think it thru. Find the answers. I'm using a phone. Not got internet. So I'll try and remember your questions.  Adam did die. Did you want it done quickly?. He was immortal and that was stripped away. Ten dimensions were broken into four for us.
Second question? People who are limited or in a coma or tribesmen in islands and remote locations who never knew god? God is a capable father. He is a wise judge. He is not stone. A perfect god in our eyes would be static. As soon as you move that perfection would be gone. GOD LOVES. Gets angry he communicates with himself. He is not the perfection we imagine. We are fallen and know four dimensions. He is far above that. He is perfect in HIS way. Comparing him to us is rather silly. We find what he created and bastardize it. We melt rocks to get iron and copper etc. We did not create. We use . We discover and adapt it.   ... Back to start... Jesus will judge the nation's. Sort the wheat from the chaff. When all that is done. He sets up the millennium kingdom. And rules. On earth. So who is left to rule?  All players off the board. Who is he ruling? The answer is the people who died young. The infirm. The mentally challenged. All the ibetween people. The murdered.  Raised back to life. To live a thousand yrs. Then Satan is released and he is allowed to tempt them as everyone is tempted. Is tested. Even people ruled by Jesus for a thousand yrs will want something else. Super porn or trips to mars? Not content. Always something better? The third question? Creation this is actually the most complex part. Evening to the morning. The Jewish day starts at 6pm and ends at 6pm the next day. 360 days a yr. They adjust to accommodate the extra four and a quarter. There is a theory we were in synchronise orbit with mars and had a 360 day orbit which changed when god stopped the sun in Jericho? Memory? Any way the seven days of creation is split into two sets of three. 1-3. 4-6 . God rested, but he continues. 7-9. We are still at six. The age of man ruling man is over. Then the millennium kingdom day eight. A new beginning. Then eternity with god in heaven. The higher dimensions.  So we go to one and four. Two and five. Three and six.  It's in many theology books.  But this pattern continues in revelation. I was born catholic . My mum was protestant. And dad was catholic. Not very religious, they tossed a coin . I went to a catholic school and it was a nut house. We got the strap regularly. One teacher was arrested for child molesting years later. I dodged that somehow. My friends did nof. Evil exists. My grandfather was a freemason. Who said he joined because he hated catholics. Nice one. Hate something. It rebounds. When he visited us in seventies he was a wreak. Alcoholic and his entire family hated him. He was accused of murdering his first wife. But charges were dtopped. Handshake.   Revelation. We again jump about we do not read it in order. I have s note someplace, but too lazy. Six then 12. 7 then 13. Etc we are into strange territory here. Blades Pascal said the bible was a cipher. Newton spent his entire life trying to get his head around it. Even he got it wrong. in this century though many people who know Hebrew and Greek have understood God has deliberately done this to hamper Satan.
We get tv shows like devs trying to be smart arses about determinism. The bbc did a science special a month ago. Clinical and uninspired. AI  and  quantum computing stuff. The greatest bible scholar is Satan. He knows more than anyone. A beautiful angel. That is why people sedge him. God is in the background. Allowing Satan a lot latitude. We think this is terrible. But only if you believe you are mortal. I know we are immortal. Energy is not destroyed. The entire uinverse is electro magnetic.earth is a nothing. Ruling earth is like ruling a sugar grain on a palatial estate. You open the ccupboard in the pantry and pull out the sugar bowl.  As we are souls. All we do here is limited to a pale lifetime. Trapped in a illusion. Which God will dissolve. So a brief torture is peanutS.  You ask legalistic questions but don't expect an answer. Because you want the illusion. The film the matrix explores this. Satan owns Hollywood and the stars. He has explored all this in depth. 450 thousand feature films. He is not without some etiquette. He issues warnings and disclaimers. He has a sense of humour. A dark humour. He replaced Jesus with Santa Claus. Satan claws. . Jesus was born in sukkoth the Jewish month of October.  We infer this from Mary's cousin and her story.

You doubt God exists. But there is a site called .. Google. Even bing. Questions are answered.

One man I like to listen to is chuck missler. A genuine man. Who is not a fake minister or priest.  YouTube has his videos. He died last year and the lord will soon raise him back to life. He was CEO of Western Digital. They make good hard drives. Ex navy. Pioneer of computer companies. Etc.   He details the science in the bible. He also details the deep meanings we don't see at first glance.

Watch a couple of his videos... Hoe sure can we be.. By chuck missler?

I am rather partial to a Goddess like Julie Christie or Kali and I also like the Monkey God Hanuman. Also Leonard Cohen wrote Jesus was a sailor but I was taught he was a carpenter, like wtf man?

I went to a job interview twenty yrs ago for a design job at a printers in Glasgow. The boss asked me .. Are you religious?  I said .. No. My thinking was that Jesus has nothing to do with religions. ( is that allowed, asking about religion in an interview?)  you all are into religion. You gits are all nuts. You believe in a lot of flakey crap. With no real proof. Hindus in reincarnation. On a ffeeling. I have solid  reasons based in reality. from a hundred vectors yahweh-jesus-eliaser is confirmed. The nation Israel exists. It resisted in a war that is considered very strange. The six day war. Outnumbered three to one. Half a dozen Arab nations attacked. Over in six days. Mirrored gods creation?  1967 A JUBILEE YEAR.  Palestine was captured in September 1517 by the Turks and the British took it off them in 1917. Dec. Exactly 400 yrs. Eight JUBILEE yrs.  In 1517 martin luthor nailed his agenda to the door of wittenberg church. You are saved by Gods grace. Not by anything you do.  Vectors. Coincidence after coincidence. Odds swept away. ... Structure within bible beyond the range of capability of our technology now. vector.  Currenř world state. Vector. Universe is set up in a way that overturns chance. Vector. Multiple dimensions as described in bible. Vector. I could type all day. Thousands of vectors point to Christ being the higher reality. What's opposing it? The opinions of men who like money. Power. Sex . Ashamed of their depravity. Porn addicts. Crime. War mongers. Adultery. They feel they cant change and be redeemed so they are on the run. Jesus is willing to forgive it all. Only real obstacle is your pride. Jesus was foretold. He came. The empire exploded and became the holy roman empire. A rabbi from a dusty province swept across the world. Foretold. Jesus could be a minor footnote. No guarantee of sweeping across the wworld. As atheists point out . There is thousands of god choices.vector. Half the world are rooted in Judea. two billion Christians.1.8 billion Muslims are claiming a connection to Abraham.  Vector. How many are atheists? The answer is a low percentage.     personally I have won the goldcup. I know God is a fact. My problem is the guys who choose this world.  I ve seen hell, sounds nuts, but it's beyond sensory limits.. Ive never talked about it. Pain that js endless. A feeling of absolute loss and extreme fear. An endless void.  My description is the tip of the iceberg. God does not condemn anyone. You back away fron love and choose fear and pride. You are too smart to fall for the god story. Part of me says fk it . Pearls bbefore swine.  Let them follow the stars. Glitz and glamour. Magpipes. Yahoo's. I want everyone safe. Even the people who are Satanists. Turn back. Understand that men have distorted gods message. Jesus said turn the other cheek. Yet so called Christian countries ignore this tenant.  Time is up. Only god can reach a closed mind. He reached me. Vector. In a million yrs. I won't remember any of this. My name.  And all the mundane bills. My family in heaven will be busy in the new heaven.  you chose to keep a penny when the gamble could net yoh a warehouse of gold. Bad gamblers. Born to lose.

you ask me to use google or bing to find answers, tbh I don't have that much time, however when you're not busy < do Devils exist ?

GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.

GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.

GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.

GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.

GE 1:26 Man is to have dominion over fish, birds, cattle, and all wild animals, yet--
GE 2:15-17 It is wrong to be able to tell good from evil, right from wrong.

GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.

GE 1:28 God encourages reproduction.
LE 12:1-8 God requires purification rites following childbirth which, in effect, makes childbirth a sin. (Note: The period for purification following the birth of a daughter is twice that for a son.)

GE 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
GE 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation.
(Note: That God should be displeased is inconsistent with the concept of omniscience as well as with the fact that God allegedly does not change his mind: NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17.)

GE 2:4, 4:26, 12:8, 22:14-16, 26:25 God was already known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) much earlier than the time of Moses.
EX 6:2-3 God was first known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) at the time of the Egyptian Bondage, during the life of Moses.

GE 2:17 Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit.
GE 5:5 Adam lived 930 years.

GE 2:15-17, 3:4-6 It is wrong to want to be able to tell good from evil.
HE 5:13-14 It is immature to be unable to tell good from evil.

GE 4:4-5 God prefers Abel's offering and has no regard for Cain's.
2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.

GE 4:9 God asks Cain where his brother Able is.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.

GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, NA 1:2, 6 God is jealous and furious. He reserves wrath for, and takes revenge on, his enemies. "... who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is poured out like fire, and rocks are thrown down by him."
2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is love.
GA 5:22-23 The fruit of the Spirit of God is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

GE 4:16 Cain went away (or out) from the presence of the Lord.
JE 23:23-24 A man cannot hide from God. God fills heaven and earth.

GE 6:3 The Lord said, "My spirit will not be in man forever, for he is only flesh; so the days of his life will be a hundred and twenty years."
GE 9:29 Noah lived nine hnndred and fifty years.

GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before the Flood.
GE 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and his clan were annihilated by the Flood.
NU 13:33 There were Nephilim after the Flood.

GE 6:6. EX 32:14, NU 14:20, 1SA 15:35, 2SA 24:16 God does change his mind.
NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17 God does not change his mind.

GE 6:19-22, 7:8-9, 7:14-16 Two of each kind are to be taken, and are taken, aboard Noah's Ark.
GE 7:2-5 Seven pairs of some kinds are to be taken, and are taken, aboard the Ark.

GE 7:1 Noah was righteous.
JB 1:1,8, JB 2:3 Job was righteous.
LK 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous.
JA 5:16 Some men are righteous, (which makes their prayers effective).
1JN 3:6-9 Christians become righteous (or else they are not really Christians).
RO 3:10, 3:23, 1JN 1:8-10 No one was or is righteous.

GE 7:7 Noah and his clan enter the Ark.
GE 7:13 They enter the Ark (again?).

GE 11:7-9 God sows discord.
PR 6:16-19 God hates anyone who sows discord.

GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord confused the language of the whole world.
1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is not the author of confusion.

GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the father of Shelah.
LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah. Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah.

GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born.
GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time).
GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.

GE 12:7, 17:1, 18:1, 26:2, 32:30, EX 3:16, 6:2-3, 24:9-11, 33:11, NU 12:7-8, 14:14, JB 42:5, AM 7:7-8, 9:1 God is seen.
EX 33:20, JN 1:18, 1JN 4:12 God is not seen. No one can see God's face and live. No one has ever seen him.

GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many languages before the Tower of Babel.
GE 11:1 There was only one language before the Tower of Babel.

GE 15:9, EX 20:24, 29:10-42, LE 1:1-7:38, NU 28:1-29:40, God details sacrificial offerings.
JE 7:21-22 God says he did no such thing.

GE 16:15, 21:1-3, GA 4:22 Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac.
HE 11:17 Abraham had only one son.

GE 17:1, 35:11, 1CH 29:11-12, LK 1:37 God is omnipotent. Nothing is impossible with (or for) God.
JG 1:19 Although God was with Judah, together they could not defeat the plainsmen because the latter had iron chariots.

GE 17:7, 10-11 The covenant of circumcision is to be everlasting.
GA 6:15 It is of no consequence.

GE 17:8 God promises Abraham the land of Canaan as an "everlasting possession."
GE 25:8, AC 7:2-5, HE 11:13 Abraham died with the promise unfulfilled.

GE 17:15-16, 20:11-12, 22:17 Abraham and his half sister, Sarai, are married and receive God's blessings.
LE 20:17, DT 27:20-23 Incest is wrong.

GE 18:20-21 God decides to "go down" to see what is going on.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.

GE 19:30-38 While he is drunk, Lot's two daughters "lie with him," become pregnant, and give birth to his offspring.
2PE 2:7 Lot was "just" and "righteous."

GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts (tests) Abraham and Moses.
JG 2:22 God himself says that he does test (tempt).
1CO 10:13 Paul says that God controls the extent of our temptations.
JA 1:13 God tests (tempts) no one.

GE 27:28 "May God give you ... an abundance of grain and new wine."
DT 7:13 If they follow his commandments, God will bless the fruit of their wine.
PS 104:15 God gives us wine to gladden the heart.
JE 13:12 "... every bottle shall be filled with wine."
JN 2:1-11 According to the author of John, Jesus' first miracle was turning water to wine.
RO 14:21 It is good to refrain from drinking wine.

GE 35:10 God says Jacob is to be called Jacob no longer; henceforth his name is Israel.
GE 46:2 At a later time, God himself uses the name Jacob.

GE 36:11 The sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz.
GE 36:15-16 Teman, Omar, Zepho, Kenaz.
1CH 1:35-36 Teman, Omar, Zephi, Gatam, Kenaz, Timna, and Amalek.

GE 49:2-28 The fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel are: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, and Benjamin.
RE 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of Dan, but adds Manasseh.)

GE 50:13 Jacob was buried in a cave at Machpelah bought from Ephron the Hittite.
AC 7:15-16 He was buried in the sepulchre at Shechem bought from the sons of Hamor.

EX 3:1 Jethro was the father-in-law of Moses.
NU 10:29, JG 4:11 (KJV) Hobab was the father-in-law of Moses.

EX 3:20-22, DT 20:13-17 God instructs the Israelites to despoil the Egyptians, to plunder their enemies.
EX 20:15, 17, LE 19:13 God prohibits stealing, defrauding, or robbing a neighbor.

EX 4:11 God decides who will be dumb, deaf, blind, etc.
2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love.

EX 9:3-6 God destroys all the cattle (including horses) belonging to the Egyptians.
EX 9:9-11 The people and the cattle are afflicted with boils.
EX 12:12, 29 All the first-born of the cattle of the Egyptians are destroyed.
EX 14:9 After having all their cattle destroyed, then afflicted with boils, and then their first-born cattle destroyed, the Egyptians pursue Moses on horseback.

EX 12:13 The Israelites have to mark their houses with blood in order for God to see which houses they occupy and "pass over" them.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from God.

EX 12:37, NU 1:45-46 The number of men of military age who take part in the Exodus is given as more than 600,000. Allowing for women, children, and older men would probably mean that a total of about 2,000,000 Israelites left Egypt.
1KI 20:15 All the Israelites, including children, number only 7000 at a later time.

EX 15:3, 17:16, NU 25:4, 32:14, IS 42:13 God is a man of war--he is fierce and angry.
RO 15:33, 2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love and peace.

EX 20:1-17 God gave the law directly to Moses (without using an intermediary).
GA 3:19 The law was ordained through angels by a mediator (an intermediary).

EX 20:4 God prohibits the making of any graven images whatsoever.
EX 25:18 God enjoins the making of two graven images.

EX 20:5, 34:7, NU 14:18, DT 5:9, IS 14:21-22 Children are to suffer for their parent's sins.
DT 24:16, EZ 18:19-20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins.

EX 20:8-11, 31:15-17, 35:1-3 No work is to be done on the Sabbath, not even lighting a fire. The commandment is permanent, and death is required for infractions.
MK 2:27-28 Jesus says that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath (after his disciples were criticized for breaking the Sabbath).
RO 14:5, CN 2:14-16 Paul says the Sabbath commandment was temporary, and to decide for yourself regarding its observance.

EX 20:12, DT 5:16, MT 15:4, 19:19, MK 7:10, 10:19, LK 18:20 Honor your father and your mother is one of the ten commandments. It is reinforced by Jesus.
MT 10:35-37, LK 12:51-53, 14:26 Jesus says that he has come to divide families; that a man's foes will be those of his own household; that you must hate your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and even your own life to be a disciple.
MT 23:9 Jesus says to call no man on earth your father.

EX 20:13, DT 5:17, MK 10:19, LK 18:20, RO 13:9, JA 2:11 God prohibits killing.
GE 34:1-35:5 God condones trickery and killing.
EX 32:27, DT 7:2, 13:15, 20:1-18 God orders killing.
2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord slaughters 185,000 men.
(Note: See Atrocities section for many more examples.)

EX 20:14 God prohibits adultery.
HO 1:2 God instructs Hosea to "take a wife of harlotry."

EX 21:23-25, LE 24:20, DT 19:21 A life for a life, an eye for an eye, etc.
MT 5:38-44, LK 6:27-29 Turn the other cheek. Love your enemies.

EX 23:7 God prohibits the killing of the innocent.
NU 31:17-18, DT 7:2, JS 6:21-27, 7:19-26, 8:22-25, 10:20, 40, 11:8-15, 20, JG 11:30-39, 21:10-12, 1SA 15:3 God orders or approves the complete extermination of groups of people which include innocent women and/or children.
(Note: See Atrocities section for many other examples of the killing of innocents.)

EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
NU 14:30 God breaks his promise.

EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
1KI 22:21-23 God condones a spirit of deception.

EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie.
2TH 2:11-12 God deludes people, making them believe what is false, so as to be able to condemn them. (Note: some versions use the word persuade here. The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)

EX 34:6-7, JS 24:19, 1CH 16:34 God is faithful, holy and good.
IS 45:6-7, AM 3:6 God is responsible for evil.

EX 34:6-7, HE 9:27 God remembers sin, even when it has been forgiven.
JE 31:34 God does not remember sin when it has been forgiven.

LE 3:17 God himself prohibits forever the eating of blood and fat.
MT 15:11, CN 2:20-22 Jesus and Paul say that such rules don't matter--they are only human injunctions.

LE 19:18, MT 22:39 Love your neighbor [as much as] yourself.
1CO 10:24 Put your neighbor ahead of yourself.

LE 21:10 The chief priest is not to rend his clothes.
MT 26:65, MK 14:63 He does so during the trial of Jesus.

LE 25:37, PS 15:1, 5 It is wrong to lend money at interest.
MT 25:27, LK 19:23-27 It is wrong to lend money without interest.

NU 15:24-28 Sacrifices can, in at least some case, take away sin.
HE 10:11 They never take away sin.

NU 25:9 24,000 died in the plague.
1CO 10:8 23,000 died in the plague.

NU 30:2 God enjoins the making of vows (oaths).
MT 5:33-37 Jesus forbids doing so, saying that they arise from evil (or the Devil).

NU 33:38 Aaron died on Mt. Hor.
DT 10:6 Aaron died in Mosera.

NU 33:41-42 After Aaron's death, the Israelites journeyed from Mt. Hor, to Zalmonah, to Punon, etc.
DT 10:6-7 It was from Mosera, to Gudgodah, to Jotbath.

DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21 God is sometimes angry.
MT 5:22 Anger is a sin.

DT 7:9-10 God destroys his enemies.
MT 5:39-44 Do not resist your enemies. Love them.

DT 18:20-22 A false prophet is one whose words do not come true. Death is required.
EZ 14:9 A prophet who is deceived, is deceived by God himself. Death is still required.

DT 23:1 A castrate may not enter the assembly of the Lord.
IS 56:4-5 Some castrates will receive special rewards.

DT 23:1 A castrate may not enter the assembly of the Lord.
MT 19:12 Men are encouraged to consider making themselves castrates for the sake of the Kingdom of God.

DT 24:1-5 A man can divorce his wife simply because she displeases him and both he and his wife can remarry.
MK 10:2-12 Divorce is wrong, and to remarry is to commit adultery.

DT 24:16, 2KI 14:6, 2CH 25:4, EZ 18:20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins.
RO 5:12, 19, 1CO 15:22 Death is passed to all men by the sin of Adam.

DT 30:11-20 It is possible to keep the law.
RO 3:20-23 It is not possible to keep the law.

JS 11:20 God shows no mercy to some.
LK 6:36, JA 5:11 God is merciful.

JG 4:21 Sisera was sleeping when Jael killed him.
JG 5:25-27 Sisera was standing.

JS 10:38-40 Joshua himself captured Debir.
JG 1:11-15 It was Othniel, who thereby obtained the hand of Caleb's daughter, Achsah.

1SA 8:2-22 Samuel informs God as to what he has heard from others.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees and hears everything.

1SA 9:15-17 The Lord tells Samuel that Saul has been chosen to lead the Israelites and will save them from the Philistines.
1SA 15:35 The Lord is sorry that he has chosen Saul.
1SA 31:4-7 Saul commits suicide and the Israelites are overrun by the Philistines.

1SA 15:7-8, 20 The Amalekites are utterly destroyed.
1SA 27:8-9 They are utterly destroyed (again?).
1SA 30:1, 17-18 They raid Ziklag and David smites them (again?).

1SA 16:10-11, 17:12 Jesse had seven sons plus David, or eight total.
1CH 2:13-15 He had seven total.

1SA 16:19-23 Saul knew David well before the latter's encounter with Goliath.
1SA 17:55-58 Saul did not know David at the time of his encounter with Goliath and had to ask about David's identity.

1SA 17:50 David killed Goliath with a slingshot.
1SA 17:51 David killed Goliath (again?) with a sword.

1SA 17:50 David killed Goliath.
2SA 21:19 Elhanan killed Goliath. (Note: Some translations insert the words "the brother of" before Elhanan. These are an addition to the earliest manuscripts in an apparent attempt to rectify this inconsistency.)

1SA 21:1-6 Ahimalech was high priest when David ate the bread.
MK 2:26 Abiathar was high priest at the time.

1SA 28:6 Saul inquired of the Lord, but received no answer.
1CH 10:13-14 Saul died for not inquiring of the Lord.

1SA 31:4-6 Saul killed himself by falling on his sword.
2SA 1:2-10 Saul, at his own request, was slain by an Amalekite.
2SA 21:12 Saul was killed by the Philistines on Gilboa.
1CH 10:13-14 Saul was slain by God.

2SA 6:23 Michal was childless.
2SA 21:8 (KJV) She had five sons.

2SA 24:1 The Lord inspired David to take the census.
1CH 21:1 Satan inspired the census.

2SA 24:9 The census count was: Israel 800,000 and Judah 500,000.
1CH 21:5 The census count was: Israel 1,100,000 and Judah 470,000.

2SA 24:10-17 David sinned in taking the census.
1KI 15:5 David's only sin (ever) was in regard to another matter.

2SA 24:24 David paid 50 shekels of silver for the purchase of a property.
1CH 21:22-25 He paid 600 shekels of gold.

1KI 3:12 God made Solomon the wisest man that ever lived, yet ....
1KI 11:1-13 Solomon loved many foreign women (against God's explicit prohibition) who turned him to other gods (for which he deserved death).

1KI 3:12, 4:29, 10:23-24, 2CH 9:22-23 God made Solomon the wisest king and the wisest man that ever lived. There never has been nor will be another like him.
MT 12:42, LK 11:31 Jesus says: "... now one greater than Solomon is here."

1KI 4:26 Solomon had 40,000 horses (or stalls for horses).
2CH 9:25 He had 4,000 horses (or stalls for horses).

1KI 5:16 Solomon had 3,300 supervisors.
2CH 2:2 He had 3,600 supervisors.

1KI 7:15-22 The two pillars were 18 cubits high.
2CH 3:15-17 They were 35 cubits high.

1KI 7:26 Solomon's "molten sea" held 2000 "baths" (1 bath = about 8 gallons).
2CH 4:5 It held 3000 "baths."

1KI 8:12, 2CH 6:1, PS 18:11 God dwells in thick darkness.
1TI 6:16 God dwells in unapproachable light.

1KI 8:13, AC 7:47 Solomon, whom God made the wisest man ever, built his temple as an abode for God.
AC 7:48-49 God does not dwell in temples built by men.

1KI 9:28 420 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.
2CH 8:18 450 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.

1KI 15:14 Asa did not remove the high places.
2CH 14:2-3 He did remove them.

1KI 16:6-8 Baasha died in the 26th year of King Asa's reign.
2CH 16:1 Baasha built a city in the 36th year of King Asa's reign.

1KI 16:23 Omri became king in the thirty-first year of Asa's reign and he reigned for a total of twelve years.
1KI 16:28-29 Omri died, and his son Ahab became king in the thirty- eighth year of Asa's reign. (Note: Thirty-one through thirty-eight equals a reign of seven or eight years.)

1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, 2TH 2:11 God himself causes a lying spirit.
PR 12:22 God abhors lying lips and delights in honesty.

1KI 22:42-43 Jehoshaphat did not remove the high places.
2CH 17:5-6 He did remove them.

2KI 2:11 Elijah went up to heaven.
JN 3:13 Only the Son of Man (Jesus) has ever ascended to heaven.
2CO 12:2-4 An unnamed man, known to Paul, went up to heaven and came back.
HE 11:5 Enoch was translated to heaven.

2KI 4:32-37 A dead child is raised (well before the time of Jesus).
MT 9:18-25, JN 11:38-44 Two dead persons are raised (by Jesus himself).
AC 26:23 Jesus was the first to rise from the dead.

2KI 8:25-26 Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began his reign.
2CH 22:2 He was 42 when he began his reign.
[Note: Some translations use "twenty-two" here in an attempt to rectify this discrepancy. The Hebrew is clear, however, that 2CH 22:2 is 42. The Hebrew words involved are Strong's H705 and H8147, "forty" and "two," respectively.]

2KI 9:27 Jehu shot Ahaziah near Ibleam. Ahaziah fled to Meggido and died there.
2CH 22:9 Ahaziah was found hiding in Samaria, brought to Jehu, and put to death.

2KI 16:5 The King of Syria and the son of the King of Israel did not conquer Ahaz.
2CH 28:5-6 They did conquer Ahaz.

2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin (Jehoiakim) was eighteen years old when he began to reign.
2CH 36:9 He was eight.
(Note: This discrepancy has been "corrected" in some versions.)

2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin (Jehoiakim) reigned three months.
2CH 36:9 He reigned three months and ten days.

2KI 24:17 Jehoiachin (Jehoaikim) was succeeded by his uncle.
2CH 36:10 He was succeeded by his brother.

1CH 3:11-13 The lineage is: Joram, Ahaziah, Joash, Amaziah, Azariah, Jotham.
MT 1:8-9 It is: Joram, Uzziah, Jotham, etc.

1CH 3:19 Pedaiah was the father of Zerubbabel.
ER 3:2 Shealtiel was the father of Zerubbabel.

2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 There is no injustice or partiality with the Lord.
RO 9:15-18 God has mercy on (and hardens the hearts of) whom he pleases.

ER 2:3-64 (Gives the whole congregation as 42,360 while the actual sum of the numbers is about 30,000.)

JB 2:3-6, 21:7-13, 2TI 3:12 The godly are persecuted and chastised but the wicked grow old, wealthy, and powerful, unchastised by God.
PS 55:23, 92:12-14, PR 10:2-3, 27-31, 12:2, 21 The lives of the wicked are cut short. The righteous flourish and obtain favor from the Lord.

PS 10:1 God cannot be found in time of need. He is "far off."
PS 145:18 God is near to all who call upon him in truth.

PS 22:1-2 God sometimes forsakes his children. He does not answer.
PS 46:1 God is a refuge, a strength, a very present help.

PS 30:5, JE 3:12, MI 7:18 God's anger does not last forever.
JE 17:4, MT 25:46 It does last forever. (He has provided for eternal punishment.)

PS 58:10-11 The righteous shall rejoice when he sees vengeance.
PR 24:16-18 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls or stumbles.

PS 78:69, EC 1:4, 3:14 The earth was established forever.
PS 102:25-26, MT 24:35, MK 13:31, LK 21:33, HE 1:10-11, 2PE 3:10 The earth will someday perish.

PR 3:13, 4:7, 19:8, JA 1:5 Happy is the man who finds wisdom. Get wisdom.
LK 2:40, 52 Jesus was filled with wisdom and found favor with God.
1CO 1:19-25, 3:18-20 Wisdom is foolishness.

PR 12:2, RO 8:28 A good man obtains favor from the Lord.
2TI 3:12, HE 12:6 The godly will be persecuted.

PR 14:8 The wisdom of a prudent man is to discern his way.
MT 6:25-34 Take no thought for tomorrow. God will take care of you.

PR 14:15-18 The simple believe everything and acquire folly; the prudent look where they are going and are crowned with knowledge.
MT 18:3, LK 18:17 You must believe as little children do.
1CO 1:20, 27 God has made the wisdom of the world foolish so as to shame the wise.
PR 16:4 God made the wicked for the "day of evil."
MT 11:25, MK 4:11-12 God and Jesus hide some things from some people.
JN 6:65 No one can come to Jesus unless it is granted by God.
RO 8:28-30 Some are predestined to be called to God, believe in Jesus, and be justified.
RO 9:15-18 God has mercy on, and hardens the hearts of, whom he pleases.
2TH 2:11-12 God deceives the wicked so as to be able to condemn them.
1TI 2:3-4, 2PE 3:9 [Yet] God wants all to be saved.

PR 8:13, 16:6 It is the fear of God that keeps men from evil.
1JN 4:18 There is no fear in love. Perfect love drives out fear.
1JN 5:2, 2JN 1:6 Those who love God keep his commandments.

PR 26:4 Do not answer a fool. To do so makes you foolish too.
PR 26:5 Answer a fool. If you don't, he will think himself wise.

PR 30:5 Every word of God proves true.
JE 8:8 The scribes falsify the word of God.
JE 20:7, EZ 14:9, 2TH 2:11-12 God himself deceives people.
(Note: Some versions translate deceive as "persuade." The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.)

IS 3:13 God stands to judge.
JL 3:12 He sits to judge.

IS 44:24 God created heaven and earth alone.
JN 1:1-3 Jesus took part in creation.

IS 53:9 Usually taken to be a prophecy re: Jesus, mentions burial with others.
MT 27:58-60, MK 15:45-46, LK 23:52-53, JN 19:38-42 Jesus was buried by himself.

JE 12:13 Some sow wheat but reap thorns.
MI 6:15 Some sow but won't reap anything.
MT 25:26, LK 19:22 Some reap without sowing.
2CO 9:6, GA 6:7 A man reaps what he sows.

JE 32:18 God shows love to thousands, but brings punishment for the sins of their fathers to many children.
2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love.

JE 34:4-5 Zedekiah was to die in peace.
JE 52:10-11 Instead, Zedekaih's sons are slain before his eyes, his eyes are then put out, he is bound in fetters, taken to Babylon and left in prison to die.

EZ 20:25-26 The law was not good. The sacrifice of children was for the purpose of horrifying the people so that they would know that God is Lord.
RO 7:12, 1TI 1:8 The law is good.

EZ 26:15-21 God says that Tyre will be destroyed and will never be found again.
(Nebudchanezzar failed to capture or destroy Tyre. It is still inhabited.)

DN 5:1 (Gives the title of "king" to Belshazzar although Belshazzar was actually the "viceroy.")

DN 5:2 (Says that Nebuchadnezzar was the father of Belshazzar, but actually, Nebonidus was the father of Belshazzar.) (Note: Some versions attempt to correct this error by making the verse say that Nebuchadnezzar was the grandfather of Belshazzar.)

ZE 11:12-13 Mentions "thirty pieces" and could possibly be thought to be connected with the Potter's Field prophesy referred to in Matthew.
MT 27:9 Jeremiah is given as the source of the prophesy regarding the purchase of the Potter's Field. (Note: There is no such prophesy in Jeremiah.)

MT 1:6-7 The lineage of Jesus is traced through David's son, Solomon.
LK 3:23-31 It is traced through David's son, Nathan.
(Note: Some apologists assert that Luke traces the lineage through Mary. That this is untrue is obvious from the context since Luke and Matthew both clearly state that Joseph was Jesus' father.)

MT 1:16 Jacob was Joseph's father.
LK 3:23 Heli was Joseph's father.

MT 1:17 There were twenty-eight generations from David to Jesus.
LK 3:23-38 There were forty-three.

MT 1:20 The angel spoke to Joseph.
LK 1:28 The angel spoke to Mary.

MT 1:20-23, LK 1:26-33 An angel announces to Joseph and/or Mary that the child (Jesus) will be "great," the "son of the Most High," etc., and ....
MT 3:13-17, MK 1:9-11 The baptism of Jesus is accompanied by the most extraordinary happenings, yet ....
MK 3:21 Jesus' own relatives (or friends) attempt to constrain him, thinking that he might be out of his mind, and ....
MK 6:4-6 Jesus says that a prophet is without honor in his own house (which certainly should not have been the case considering the Annunciation and the Baptism).

MT 1:23 He will be called Emmanuel (or Immanuel).
MT 1:25 Instead, he was called Jesus.

MT 2:13-16 Following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary flee to Egypt, (where they stay until after Herod's death) in order to avoid the murder of their firstborn by Herod. Herod slaughters all male infants two years old and under. (Note: John the Baptist, Jesus' cousin, though under two is somehow spared without fleeing to Egypt.)
LK 2:22-40 Following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary remain in the area of Jerusalem for the Presentation (about forty days) and then return to Nazareth without ever going to Egypt. There is no slaughter of the infants.

MT 2:23 "And he went and lived in a town called Nazareth. So was fulfilled what was said through the prophets: He will be called a Nazarene.'" (This prophecy is not found in the OT and while Jesus is often referred to as "Jesus of Nazareth", he is seldom referred to as "Jesus the Nazarene.")

MT 3:11-14, JN 1:31-34 John realized the true identity of Jesus (as the Messiah) either prior to the actual Baptism, or from the Baptism onward. The very purpose of John's baptism was to reveal Jesus to Israel.
MT 11:2-3 After the Baptism, John sends his disciples to ask if Jesus is the Messiah.

MT 3:12, 13:42 Hell is a furnace of fire (and must therefore be light).
MT 8:12, 22:13, 25:30 Hell is an "outer darkness" (and therefore dark).

MT 3:16, MK 1:10 It was Jesus who saw the Spirit descending.
JN 1:32 It was John who saw the Spirit descending.

MT 3:17 The heavenly voice addressed the crowd: "This is my beloved Son."
MK 1:11, LK 3:22 The voice addressed Jesus: "You are my beloved Son...."

MT 4:1-11, MK 1:12-13 Immediately following his Baptism, Jesus spent forty days in the wilderness resisting temptation by the Devil.
JN 2:1-11 Three days after the Baptism, Jesus was at the wedding in Cana.

MT 4:5-8 The Devil took Jesus to the pinnacle of the temple, then to the mountain top.
LK 4:5-9 First to the mountain top, then to the pinnacle of the temple.

MT 4:18-20, MK 1:16-18 (One story about choosing Peter as a disciple.)
LK 5:2-11 (A different story.)
JN 1:35-42 (Still another story.)

MT 5:1 - 7:29 Jesus delivers his most noteworthy sermon while on the mount.
LK 6:17-49 Jesus delivers his most noteworthy sermon while on the plain. (Note: No such sermons are mentioned in either MK or JN and Paul seems totally unfamiliar with either the sermon on the mount or the sermon on the plain.)

MT 5:16 Good works should be seen.
MT 6:1-4 They should be kept secret.

MT 5:17-19, LK 16:17 Jesus underscores the permanence of the law.
LE 10:8 - 11:47, DT 14:3-21 The law distinguishes between clean and unclean foods.
MK 7:14-15, MK 7:18-19 Jesus says that there is no such distinction.
1TI 4:1-4 All foods are clean according to Paul.

MT 5:17-19, LK 16:17 Jesus did not come to abolish the law.
EP 2:13-15, HE 7:18-19 Jesus did abolish the law.

MT 5:22 Anyone who calls another a fool is liable to Hell.
MT 7:26 Jesus says that anyone who hears his words and does not do them is a fool. (Note: The translation now prevalent, "like a foolish man," in MT 7:26 is a dishonest attempt to alleviate the obvious inconsistency here in that the oldest Greek manuscripts use the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and "like a foolish man" in MT 7:26.)
MT 23:17-19 Jesus twice calls the Pharisees blind fools.
MT 25:2, 3, 8 Jesus likens the maidens who took no oil to fools. (Note: This is the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and MT 23:17-19.)
1CO 1:23, 3:18, 4:10 Paul uses "fool" with regard to Christians becoming fools for Christ. (Note: Again, this is the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and MT 23:17-19.)

MT 5:22 Anger by itself is a sin.
EP 4:26 Anger is not necessarily a sin.

MT 5:22 Anger by itself is a sin.
MT 11:22-24, LK 10:13-15 Jesus curses the inhabitants of several cities who are not sufficiently impressed with his mighty works.
MT 21:19, MK 11:12-14 Jesus curses a fig tree when it fails to bear fruit out of season.
MK 3:5 Jesus looks around "angrily."

MT 5:32 Divorce, except on the grounds of unchastity, is wrong.
MK 10:11-12 Divorce on any grounds is wrong.

MT 5:39, MT 5:44 Jesus says: "Do not resist evil. Love your enemies."
MT 6:15, 12:34, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 17, 19, 27, 29, 33, MK 7:6, LK 11:40, 44, 12:56 Jesus repeatedly hurls epithets at his opponents.

MT 5:39, MT 5:44 Do not resist evil. Love your enemies.
LK 19:27 God is likened to one who destroys his enemies.

MT 5:39, MT 5:44 Do not resist evil. Love your enemies.
2JN 1:9-11 Shun anyone who does not hold the proper doctrine.
MT 5:43-44, MT 22:39 Love your enemies. Love your neighbor as yourself.
MT 10:5 Go nowhere among the Gentiles nor enter a Samaritan town.
JN 8:58-59 Jesus hid himself, apparently to avoid being stoned.

MT 5:45, 7:21 God resides in heaven.
MK 13:32 The angels reside in heaven
AC 7:55, HE 12:2 Jesus is at the right hand of God, in heaven.
1PE 1:3-4 Believers will inherit eternal life in heaven.
MT 24:35, MK 13:31, LK 21:33 Heaven will pass away.

MT 6:13 God might lead us into temptation and it is better avoided.
JA 1:2-3 Temptation is joy.

MT 6:13 Jesus' prayer implies that God might lead us into temptation.
JA 1:13 God tempts no one.

MT 6:25-34, LK 12:22-31 Take no thought for tomorrow. God will take care of you.
1TI 5:8 A man who does not provide for his family is worse than an infidel. (Note: Providing for a family certainly involves taking "thought for tomorrow.")

MT 7:1-2 Do not judge.
MT 7:15-20 Instructions for judging a false prophet.

MT 7:7-8, LK 11:9-10 Ask and it will be given. Seek and you will find.
LK 13:24 Many will try to enter the Kingdom but will be unable.

MT 7:21 Not everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
AC 2:21, RO 10:13 Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
AC 2:39 Those God calls to himself will be saved.

MT 7:21, LK 10:36-37, RO 2:6, 13, JA 2:24 We are justified by works, not by faith.
JN 3:16, RO 3:20-26, EP 2:8-9, GA 2:16 We are justified by faith, not by works.

MT 8:5-12 The centurion himself approaches Jesus to ask to heal his servant.
LK 7:2-10 The centurion sends elders to do the asking.

MT 8:16, LK 4:40 Jesus healed all that were sick.
MK 1:32-34 Jesus healed many (but not all).

MT 8:28-33 Two demoniacs are healed in the Gadarene swine incident.
MK 5:2-16, LK 8:26-36 One demoniac is healed in this incident.

MT 9:18 The ruler's daughter was already dead when Jesus raised her.
LK 8:42 She was dying, but not dead.

MT 10:1-8 Jesus gives his disciples the power to exorcise and heal...
MT 17:14-16 (Yet) the disciples are unable to do so.

MT 10:2, MK 3:16-19 The twelve apostles (disciples) were: Simon (Peter), Andrew his brother, James the son of Zebedee, John his brother, Philip, Bartholemew, Thomas, Matthew the tax collector, James the son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus (Labbaeus), Simon, and Judas Iscariot.
LK 6:13-16 The above except that Thaddaeus (Labbaeus) is excluded, and Judas the son of James is added (and Judas Iscariot remains).
AC 1:13, 26 Same as MT and MK except that, like LK Thaddaeus (Labbaeus) is excluded, Judas the son of James is included, and Mathias is chosen by the others to replace Judas Iscariot.

MT 10:2, 5-6 Peter was to be an apostle to the Jews and not go near the Gentiles.
AC 15:7 He was an apostle to the Gentiles.

MT 10:10 Do not take sandals (shoes) or staves.
MK 6:8-9 Take sandals (shoes) and staves.

MT 10:34, LK 12:49-53 Jesus has come to bring a sword, fire, and division--not peace.
JN 16:33 Jesus says: "In me you have peace."

MT 10:22, 24:13, MK 13:13 He that endures to the end will be saved.
MK 16:16 He that believes and is baptized will be saved.
JN 3:5 Only he that is born of water and Spirit will be saved.
AC 16:31 He that believes on the Lord Jesus will be saved.
AC 2:21 He that calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.
RO 10:9 He who confesses with his mouth "Jesus is Lord" and believes in his heart that God raised him from the dead will be saved.
1JN 4:7 He who loves is born of God (and presumably will be saved.)

MT 10:28, LK 12:4 Jesus says not to fear men. (Fear God only.)
MT 12:15-16, JN 7:1-10, 8:59, 10:39, 11:53-54 Jesus hid, escaped, went secretly, etc.

MT 11:7-15, 17:12-13 Jesus says that John the Baptist was a prophet, and more.
JN 1:21 John himself says that he is not a prophet, nor is he Elijah.

MT 11:25, MK 4:11-12 Jesus thanks God for hiding some things from the wise while revealing them to "babes." He says that he uses parables so that the meaning of some of his teachings will remain hidden to at least some persons, and specifically so that they will not turn and be forgiven.
MK 4:22 Jesus says that all things should be made known.

MT 11:29 Jesus says that he is gentle (meek) and humble (lowly).
JN 2:15 Jesus makes a whip of cords, drives the money changers from the Temple, overturns their tables, and pours out their coins. (Note: The presence of the money changers in the outer court of the Temple had been authorized by the Temple authorities and was, in fact, a necessity since the Jews would not accept Roman coin for the purchase of sacrifices.)

MT 12:5 Jesus says that the law (OT) states that the priests profane the Sabbath but are blameless. (No such statement is found in the OT.

MT 12:30 Jesus says that those who are not with him are against him.
MK 9:40 Jesus says that those who are not against him are for him.
(Note: This puts those who are indifferent or undecided in the "for him" category in the first instance and in the "against him" category in the second instance.)

MT 12:39, MK 8:12, LK 11:29 Jesus says that he will give no "sign."
JN 3:2, 20:30, AC 2:22 Jesus proceeds to give many such "signs."

MT 13:34, MK 4:34 Jesus addresses the crowds only in parables, so that they would not fully understand. He explains the meaning only to his disciples.
JN 1:1 - 21:25 (Throughout the book of John, unlike the other Gospels, Jesus addresses the crowds in a very straightforward manner. He does not employ parables.)

MT 13:58, MK 6:5 In spite of his faith, Jesus is not able to perform mighty miracles.
MT 17:20, 19:26, MK 9:23, 10:27, LK 17:6, 18:27 Jesus says that anything is possible to him who believes if he has the faith of a grain of mustard seed. All things are possible with God. A mountain can be commanded to move and it will move.

MT 5:37, 15:19, MK 7:22, JN 8:14, 44, 14:6, 18:37 Jesus says that you should answer a plain "yes" or "no," that his purpose is to bear witness to the truth, and that his testimony is true. He equates lying with evil.
JN 7:2-10 Jesus tells his brothers that he is not going to Jerusalem for the Feast of the Tabernacles, then later goes secretly by himself. (Note: The words "not yet" were added to some versions at JN 7:8 in order to alleviate this problem. The context at JN 7:10 makes the deception clear, however.)

MT 16:6, 11 Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
MK 8:15 Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Herod.

MT 16:18 Jesus founds his church on Peter and will give him the keys of the kingdom.
MT 16:23 Jesus calls Peter [a] "Satan" and "a hindrance," and accuses him of being on the side of men rather than that of God.

MT 16:18 Jesus founds his church on Peter and will give him the keys of the kingdom.
AC 15:1-21 James presides over the first Council of Jerusalem and formulates the decree regarding the accepting of Gentiles which is sent to the other churches. (Note: Tradition has it that James was appointed as the first Bishop or Pope, not Peter.)

MT 17:1-2 The Transfiguration occurs six days after Jesus foretells his suffering.
LK 9:28-29 It takes place about eight days afterwards.

MT 20:20-21 The mother of James and John asks Jesus a favor for her sons.
MK 10:35-37 They ask for themselves.

MT 20:23, MK 10:40 Jesus responds that it is not his to give.
MT 28:18, JN 3:35 All authority has been given to Jesus.

MT 20:29-34 Jesus heals two blind men on the way to Jericho.
MK 10:46-52 He heals one blind man.

MT 21:1-17 The sequence was: triumphal entry, cleansing of the temple, Bethany.
MK 11:1-19 Triumphal entry, cleansing of the temple.
LK 19:28-48 Triumphal entry, cleansing of the temple, daily teaching in the temple.
JN 12:1-18 Cleansing of the temple (early in his career), Supper with Lazarus, triumphal entry, no cleansing of the temple following the triumphal entry.

MT 21:2-6, MK 11:2-7, LK 19:30-35 The disciples follow Jesus instructions and bring him the animal (or animals, in the case of MT).
JN 12:14 Jesus finds the animal himself.

MT 21:7 Jesus rides two animals during his triumphal entry.
MK 11:7, LK 19:35, JN 12:14 Only one animal is involved.

MT 21:12-13 The cleansing of the temple occurs at the end of Jesus' career.
JN 2:13-16 It occurs near the beginning of his career.

MT 21:19-20 The fig tree withers immediately after being cursed by Jesus. The disciples notice and are amazed.
MK 11:13-14, 20-21 The disciples first notice that the tree has withered the day following.

MT 23:35 Jesus says that Zacharias (Zechariah) was the son of Barachias (Barachiah).
2CH 24:20 Zacharias was actually the son of Jehoida, the priest.
(Note: The name Barachias, or Barachiah, does not appear in the O.T.)

MT 24:29-33, MK 13:24-29 The coming of the kingdom will be accompanied by signs and miracles.
LK 17:20-21 It will not be accompanied by signs and miracles. It is already within.

MT 25:34 Heaven was prepared before the Ascension of Jesus.
JN 14:2-3 It was prepared after the Ascension of Jesus.

MT 26:6-13, MK 14:3 The anointing of Jesus takes place in Bethany at the house of Simon the leper.
LK 7:36-38 It takes place at the house of a Pharisee in Galilee.

MT 26:7, MK 14:3 The oil is poured on Jesus' head.
LK 7:38, JN 12:3 On his feet.

MT 26:7, MK 14:3, LK 7:37 An unnamed woman does the anointing.
JN 12:3 It is Mary.

MT 28:6-8 The women ran from the tomb "with great joy."
JN 20:1-2 Mary told Peter and the other disciple that the body had been stolen. (Would she feel "great joy" if she thought the body had been stolen?)

MT 26:8 The disciples reproach her.
MK 14:4 "Some" reproach her.
JN 12:4-5 Judas Iscariot reproaches her.

MT 26:14-25, MK 14:10-11, LK 22:3-23 Judas made his bargain with the chief priests before the meal.
JN 13:21-30 After the meal.

MT 26:20-29, MK 14:17-28, JN 13:21-30 Jesus forecasts his betrayal prior to the communion portion of the supper.
LK 22:14-23 After the communion portion.

MT 26:26-29, MK 14:22-25 The order of the communion was: bread, then wine.
LK 22:17-20 It was: wine, then bread.

MT 26:34, LK 22:34, JN 13:38 Peter was to deny Jesus before the **** crowed.
MK 14:30 Before the **** crowed twice.
MK 14:66-72 The **** crows after both the first and second denials.
(Note: These discrepancies have been "translated out" in some Bible versions.)

MT 26:40-45, MK 14:37-41 The disciples fall asleep three times.
LK 22:45 One time.

MT 26:49-50, MK 14:44-46 Jesus is betrayed by Judas with a kiss, then seized.
LK 22:47-48 Jesus anticipates Judas' kiss. No actual kiss is mentioned.
JN 18:2-9 Jesus voluntarily steps forward to identify himself making it completely unnecessary for Judas to point him out. No kiss is mentioned.

MT 26:51, MK 14:47, JN 18:10 The ear of a slave is cut off and left that way.
LK 22:50-51 The severed ear is miraculously healed by Jesus.

MT 26:52 Dispose of swords. All who take the sword will perish by it.
LK 22:36-38 Buy swords.

MT 26:57, MK 14:53, LK 22:54 After his arrest Jesus is first taken to Caiphas, the high priest.
JN 18:13-24 First to Annas, the son-in-law of Caiphas, then to Caiphas.

MT 26:18-20, 57-68, 27:1-2, MK 14:16-18, 53-72, 15:1 Jesus' initial hearing was at night on Passover. In the morning he was taken to Pilate.
LK 22:13-15, 54-66 The initial hearing took place in the morning on Passover.
JN 18:28, 19:14 It took place the day before Passover, on the Day of Preparation.

MT 26:59-66, MK 14:55-64 Jesus was tried by the entire Sanhedrin (the chief priests and the whole council).
LK 22:66-71 There was no trial but merely an inquiry held by the Sanhedrin.
JN 18:13-24 There was no appearance before the Sanhedrin, only the private hearings before Annas and then Caiphas.

MT 26:63, LK 22:70 The high priest asks Jesus if he is the Son of God.
MK 14:61 He asks Jesus if he is the Son of the Blessed.

MT 26:64, LK 22:70 Jesus answers: "You have said so," or words to this effect.
MK 14:62 He answers directly: "I am."

MT 26:69-70 Peter makes his first denial to a maid and "them all."
MK 14:66-68, LK 22:56-57, JN 18:17 It was to one maid only.

MT 26:71-72 Peter's second denial is to still another maid.
MK 14:69-70 (Apparently) to the same maid.
LK 22:58 To a man, not a maid.
JN 18:25 To more than one, "they."

MT 26:73-74, MK 14:70-71 Peter's third denial is to bystanders (two or more).
LK 22:59-60 To "another" (one).
JN 18:26-27 To one of the servants.

MT 26:74 The **** crowed once.
MK 14:72 The **** crowed twice.

MT 27:3-7 The chief priests bought the field.
AC 1:16-19 Judas bought the field.

MT 27:5 Judas threw down the pieces of silver, then departed.
AC 1:18 He used the coins to buy the field.

MT 27:5 Judas hanged himself.
AC 1:18 He fell headlong, burst open, and his bowels gushed out.

MT 27:11, MK 15:2, LK 23:3 When asked if he is King of the Jews, Jesus answers: "You have said so," (or "Thou sayest").
JN 18:33-34 He answers: "Do you say this of your own accord?"

MT 27:11-14 Jesus answers not a single charge at his hearing before Pilate.
JN 18:33-37 Jesus answers all charges at his hearing before Pilate.

MT 27:20 The chief priests and elders are responsible for persuading the people to ask for the release of Barabbas.
MK 15:11 Only the chief priests are responsible.
LK 23:18-23 The people ask, apparently having decided for themselves.

MT 27:28 Jesus is given a scarlet robe (a sign of infamy).
MK 15:17, JN 19:2 A purple robe (a sign of royalty).

MT 27:32, MK 15:21, LK 23:26 Simon of Cyrene carries Jesus' cross.
JN 19:17 Jesus carries his own cross with no help from anyone.

MT 27:37 The inscription on the cross read: "This is Jesus the King of the Jews."
MK 15:26 "The King of the Jews."
LK 23:38 "This is the King of the Jews."
JN 19:19 "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews."

MT 27:44 Both of those who are crucified with Jesus taunt him.
LK 23:39-42 Only one taunts Jesus, and he is rebuked by the other for doing so.

MT 27:46 Jesus asks God, the Father, why he has been forsaken.
JN 10:30 Jesus says that he and the Father are one.

MT 27:46-50, MK 15:34-37 Jesus' last recorded words are: "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
LK 23:46 "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit."
JN 19:30 "It is finished." (Note: Even though both MT and MK allegedly represent direct quotes and are translated similarly, the actual Greek words used for God are different. MT uses "Eli" and MK uses "Eloi.")

MT 27:48, LK 23:36, JN 19:29 Jesus was offered vinegar to drink.
MK 15:23 It was wine and myrrh, and he did not drink it.
JN 19:29-30 Whatever it was, he did drink it.

MT 27:54 The centurion says: "Truly this was the son of God."
MK 15:39 He says: "Truly this man was the son of God!"
LK 23:47 He says: "Truly this man was innocent" (or "righteous").

MT 27:55, MK 15:40, LK 23:49 The women looked on from afar.
JN 19:25-26 They were near enough that Jesus could speak to his mother.

MT 27:62-66 A guard was placed at the tomb (the day following the burial).
MK 15:42- 16:8, LK 23:50-56, JN 19:38-42 (No guard is mentioned. This is important since rumor had it that Jesus' body was stolen and the Resurrection feigned.)
MK 16:1-3, LK 24:1 (There could not have been a guard, as far as the women were concerned, since they were planning to enter the tomb with spices. Though the women were aware of the stone, they were obviously unaware of a guard.)

MT 24:9 Even some of the disciples of Jesus will be killed.
JN 8:51 If anyone keeps Jesus' words, he will never see death.
HE 9:27 [All] men die once, then judgement follows.

MT 28:1 The first visitors to the tomb were Mary Magdalene and the other Mary (two).
MK 16:1 Both of the above plus Salome (three).
LK 23:55 - 24:1, 24:10 Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and "other women" (at least five).
JN 20:1 Mary Magdalene only (one).

MT 28:1 It was toward dawn when they arrived.
MK 16:2 It was after sunrise.
LK 24:1 It was at early dawn.
JN 20:1 It was still dark.

MT 28:1-2 The stone was still in place when they arrived. It was rolled away later.
MK 16:4, LK 24:2, JN 20:1 The stone had already been rolled (or taken) away.

MT 28:2 An angel arrived during an earthquake, rolled back the stone, then sat on it (outside the tomb).
MK 16:5 No earthquake, only one young man sitting inside the tomb.
LK 24:2-4 No earthquake. Two men suddenly appear standing inside the tomb.
JN 20:12 No earthquake. Two angels are sitting inside the tomb.

MT 28:8 The visitors ran to tell the disciples.
MK 16:8 They said nothing to anyone.
LK 24:9 They told the eleven and all the rest.
JN 20:10-11 The disciples returned home. Mary remained outside, weeping.

MT 28:8-9 Jesus' first Resurrection appearance was fairly near the tomb.
LK 24:13-15 It was in the vicinity of Emmaus (seven miles from Jerusalem).
JN 20:13-14 It was right at the tomb.

MT 28:9 On his first appearance to them, Jesus lets Mary Magdalene and the other Mary hold him by his feet.
JN 20:17 On his first appearance to Mary, Jesus forbids her to touch him since he has not yet ascended to the Father.
JN 20:27 A week later, although he has not yet ascended to the Father, Jesus tells Thomas to touch him.

MT 28:7-10, MT 28:16 Although some doubted, the initial reaction of those that heard the story was one of belief since they followed the revealed instructions.
MK 16:11, LK 24:11 The initial reaction was one of disbelief. All doubted.

MT 28:1-18 The order of Resurrection appearances was: Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, then the eleven.
MK 16:9-14 It was Mary Magdalene, then two others, then the eleven.
LK 24:15-36 It was two, then Simon (Peter?), then the eleven.
JN 20:14 - 21:1 It was Mary Magdalene, then the disciples without Thomas, then the disciples with Thomas, then the eleven disciples again.
1CO 15:5-8 It was Cephas (Peter?), then the "twelve" (which twelve, Judas was dead?), then 500+ brethren (although AC 1:15 says there were only about 120), then James, then all the Apostles, then Paul.

MT 28:19 Jesus instructs his disciples to baptize.
1CO 1:17 Although he considers himself a disciple of Jesus, Paul says that he has not been sent to baptize.

MK 1:2 Jesus quotes a statement that allegedly appears in Isaiah. No such statement appears in Isaiah. (Note: IS 40.3 is seen by some as equivalent to MK 1.2; MA 3.1 is a much better fit, however, given that Jesus is allegedly quoting word for word in MK 1:2.)

MK 1:14 Jesus began his ministry after the arrest of John the Baptist.
JN 3:22-24 Before the arrest of John the Baptist.

MK 1:23-24 A demon cries out that Jesus is the Holy One of God.
1JN 4:1-2 Everyone who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God. (Note: This would mean that the demon is of God.)

MK 3:29 Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin.
AC 13:39, CN 2:13, 1JN 1:9 All sins are forgivable.

MK 4:11-12, 11:25 Jesus says that he uses parables so that the meaning of some of his teachings will remain secret to at least some persons. He explains the meanings of the parables only to his disciples. He thanks God for hiding some things from the wise while revealing them to "babes."
JN 18:20 Jesus says that he always taught openly, never secretly.

MK 6:16 Herod was the source of the belief that John had been raised from the dead.
LK 9:7 Others were the source. Herod was perplexed by the belief.

MK 6:52 The people were so unimpressed with "the Feeding of the Multitude" that they did not even understand the event.
JN 6:14-15 They were so impressed that they tried to force Jesus to be their king.

MK 6:53 After the feeding of the 5000, Jesus and the disciples went to Gennesaret.
JN 6:17-25 They went to Capernaum.

MK 15:25 It was the third hour when Jesus was crucified.
JN 19:14-15 It was after the sixth hour since Jesus was still before Pilate and had not yet been sentenced at that time.

MK 16:1-2 The women came to the tomb to anoint the body.
JN 19:39-40 The body had already been anointed and wrapped in linen cloth.

MK 16:5, LK 24:3 The women actually entered the tomb.
JN 20:1-2, 11 They did not.

MK 16:14-19 The Ascension took place (presumably from a room) while the disciples were together seated at a table, probably in or near Jerusalem.
LK 24:50-51 It took place outdoors, after supper, at Bethany (near Jerusalem).
AC 1:9-12 It took place outdoors, after 40+ days, at Mt. Olivet.
MT 28:16-20 No mention is made of an ascension, but if it took place at all, it must have been from a mountain in Galilee since MT ends there.)

LK 1:15 John the Baptist had the Holy Spirit from before his birth or the birth of Jesus.
LK 1:41 Elizabeth had it long before Jesus went away.
LK 1:67 So did Zechariah.
LK 2:25 So did Simeon.
LK 11:13 It is obtained by prayer (presumably at any time).
JN 7:39, JN 16:7, AC 1:3-5 The Holy Spirit cannot come into the world until after Jesus has departed.

LK 8:12 The Devil causes unbelief.
MK 4:11-12 Jesus is responsible for unbelief in at least some cases.
2TH 2:11-12 God is ultimately responsible for unbelief in at least some cases.

LK 14:26 No one can be a disciple of Jesus unless he hates his parents, wife, children, brothers and sisters.
1JN 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer.
1JN 4:20 If anyone claims to love God but hates his brother, he is a liar.

LK 18:9-14 Do not boast of your virtue.
RO 11:20, 1PE 5:5 Do not be proud.
RO 15:17, 2CO 1:12, HE 3:6, 2CO 2:14, 5:12, 11:17 Paul boasts of his faith and says that one should be proud of it.

LK 22:3-23 Satan entered Judas before the supper.
JN 13:27 It was during the supper.

LK 23:43 Jesus promises one of those crucified with him that they will be together, that very day, in Paradise.
JN 20:17, AC 1:3 Jesus was not raised until the third day and did not ascend until at least forty days later.

LK 23:55-56 The women followed Joseph to the tomb, saw how the body had been laid, then went to prepare spices with which to anoint the body.
JN 19:39-40 Joseph brought spices with him (75 or a 100 lbs.) and annointed the body (as the women should have noticed).

JN 1:1, 10:30 Jesus and God are one.
JN 14:28 God is greater than Jesus.

JN 1:1 Jesus was God incarnate.
AC 2:22 Jesus was a man approved by God.

JN 3:17, 8:15, 12:47 Jesus does not judge.
JN 5:22, 5:27-30, 9:39, AC 10:42, 2CO 5:10 Jesus does judge.

JN 5:22 God does not judge.
RO 2:2-5, 3:19, 2TH 1:5, 1PE 1:17 God does judge.

JN 5:24 Believers do not come into judgement.
MT 12:36, RO 5:18, 2CO 5:10, HE 9:27, 1PE 1:17, JU 1:14-15, RE 20:12-13 All persons (including believers) come into judgement.

JN 5:31 Jesus says that if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is not true.
JN 8:14 Jesus says that even if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is true.

JN 5:38-47 Men have a choice as to whether or not to receive Jesus.
JN 6:44 No one can come to Jesus unless he is drawn by the Father.

JN 7:38 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (i.e., the OT).
(No such statement is found in the OT.)

JN 10:27-29 None of Jesus' followers will be lost.
1TI 4:1 Some of them will be lost.

JN 12:31 The Devil is the ruler (or "prince") of this world.
1CO 10:26, RE 1:5 Jesus is the ruler of kings--the earth is his.

JN 12:32 Jesus implies that all persons will be saved.
1TI 2:3-4, 2PE 3:9 God wants all to be saved.
JN 12:40, AC 2:21, 2:39, RO 9:27, 10:13 Some will not be saved.
RE 14:1-4 Heaven will be inhabited by 144,000 virgin men (only?).

JN 13:36 Peter asks Jesus where he is going.
JN 14:5 Thomas does the same.
JN 16:5 Jesus says that none of them have asked him where he is going.

JN 17:12 Jesus has lost none of his disciples other than Judas.
JN 18:9 Jesus has lost none, period.

JN 17:12 Mentions a "son of perdition" as appearing in scripture (meaning the OT).
(Note: There is no "son of perdition" mentioned in the OT.)

JN 18:37 Jesus came into the world to bear witness to the truth.
RO 1:18-20 The truth has always been evident.

JN 20:9 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (meaning the OT). (No such statement is found in the OT.)

JN 20:22 In his first resurrection appearance before the assembled disciples, Jesus gives them the Holy Spirit.
AC 1:3-5, AC 2:1-4 The Holy Spirit was received much later (on Pentecost.)

JN 21:25 The world probably could not contain the books if all that Jesus did were to be written.
AC 1:1 The author of Acts has already written about all that Jesus began to do.

AC 5:19, 12:6-11 The disciples take part in a jailbreak made possible by an angel.
AC 5:40-42 The disciples disobey the Council and continue to teach and preach Jesus.
RO 13:1-4, 1PE 2:13-15 Obey the laws of men (i.e., government). It is the will of God.

AC 5:29 Obey God, not men.
RO 13:1-4, 1PE 2:13-15 Obey the laws of men (i.e., government). It is the will of God.

AC 9:7 Those present at Paul's conversion heard the voice but saw no one.
AC 22:9 They saw a light but did not hear a voice.

AC 9:7 Those present at Paul's conversion stood.
AC 26:14 They fell to the ground.

AC 9:19-28 Shortly after his conversion, Paul went to Damascus, then Jerusalem where he was introduced to the Apostles by Barnabas, and there spent some time with them (going in and out among them).
GA 1:15-20 He made the trip three years later, then saw only Peter and James.

AC 9:23 The governor attempted to seize Paul.
2CO 11:32 It was the Jews who tried to seize Paul.

AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
RO 9:11-13 God hated Esau and loved Jacob even before their birth.

AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
RO 9:18 God has mercy on whoever he chooses, etc.

AC 16:6 The Holy Spirit forbids preaching in Asia.
AC 19:8-10 Paul preaches in Asia anyway.

AC 20:35 Quotes Jesus as having said: "It is more blessed to give than to receive." (No such statement of Jesus is found elsewhere in the Bible.)

RO 2:12 All who have sinned without the law will perish without the law.
RO 4:15 Where there is no law there is no transgression (sin).

RO 2:13 Doers of the law will be justified.
RO 3:20, GA 3:11 They will not be justified.

RO 2:15 The law is written on the heart. Conscience teaches right from wrong.
1JN 2:27 Anointing by Jesus teaches right from wrong.

RO 4:9 Faith was reckoned to Abraham as righteousness.
JA 2:21 Abraham was justified by works (which made his faith perfect).

RO 10:11 (An alleged OT quote; no such statement in the OT.)

RO 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything that might cause your brother to stumble or be offended.
CN 2:16 Let no one pass judgement on you in matters of food and drink.

1CO 7:8-9 Widows should not marry (although it is better to marry than burn).
1TI 5:14 Young widows should marry, bear children, rule the household, etc..

1CO 8:4 There is only one God.
2CO 4:4 Satan is God of this world (therefore there are at least two gods).

1CO 10:33 Paul says that he tries to please men (so they might be saved).
GA 1:10 Paul says he would not be a servant of Christ if he tried to please men.

2CO 12:16 Paul says that he does use trickery.
1TH 2:3 Paul says that he does not use trickery.

GA 6:2 Bear one another's burdens.
GA 6:5 Bear your own burden.

1TH 2:2 God gave Paul the courage to continue his work.
1TH 2:17-18 Satan hindered Paul.
(Note: Who is stronger, Satan or God?)

1TI 1:15 Paul says that he is the foremost of sinners.
1JN 3:8-10 He who commits sin is of the Devil. Children of God do not sin.

1TI 6:20, 2TI 2:14-16, 3:1-7 Do not argue with an unbeliever.
2JN 1:10-11 Anyone who even greets an unbeliever shares his wicked work.
CN 4:5-6 Be wise in your behavior with outsiders. Let your talk be with grace, mixed with salt, so that you may be able to give an answer to everyone.
1PE 3:15 Always be ready to answer any man concerning your faith.

JA 4:5 (Quotes an alleged OT scripture verse not found in the OT.)

RE 8:7 All of the grass on earth is burned up, and then ...
RE 9:4 An army of locusts, which is about to be turned loose on the earth, is instructed not to harm the grass.

Take gravity, for example: the force of attraction between massive
particles. We know a great deal about the properties of gravity, yet we
know nothing about the cause of the force itself. Why are particles at-
tracted to one other? If we review the literature, we find a lot of material
dealing with the properties of gravity, but very little dealing with the
underlying cause of this attraction. Until we have a proven answer to
this question, it seems irresponsible to instruct students in what is, ul-
timately, just a theory. However, if we must discuss the theory of grav-
ity at all, then it's reasonable that all suggested theories should be given
equal time, since none have been proven or disproven. Therefore, I for-
mally submit that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is behind this strange
and often misunderstood force.

What if it is He, pushing us down with His Noodly Appendages, that
causes this force? He is invisible, remember, and is undetectable by
current instruments, so in theory it is possible. And the fact that the
gravitational powers of the Spaghetti Monster haven't been disproven
makes it all the more likely to be true. We can only guess as to His mo-
tives, but it's logical to assume that if He is going to such trouble, there
is a good reason. It could be that He doesn't want us floating off earth
into space, or maybe just that He enjoys touching us — we may never
know.'

And while it's true that we don't have any empirical evidence to back
up this theory, keep in mind the precedent set by Intelligent Design
proponents. Not only is observable, repeatable evidence not required to
get an alternative theory included in the curriculum, but simply pok-
ing holes in established theory may be enough. In this case, the
established theory of gravity makes no mention as to the cause of the
force; it merely presents the properties of it. I fully expect, then, that
this FSM theory of gravity will be admitted into accepted science with
a minimum of apparently unnecessary bureaucratic nonsense, includ-
ing the peer-review process.

For further evidence of the true cause of gravity — that we are being
pushed down by His Noodly Appendages — we need only look at our his-
torical records. The average height of humans two thousand years ago
was about five feet three inches for males, compared with an average
height of around five feet ten inches for males today. Useless by itself,
this information becomes quite important when viewed in terms of
worldwide population. Humans, apparently obsessed with ****g, have
increased their numbers exponentially over the years. We find, counter-
intuitively, that a small population correlates with shorter humans,
and a larger population correlates with taller humans. 2 This only
makes sense in light of the FSM theory of gravity. With more people on
earth today, there are fewer Noodly Appendages to go around, so we
each receive less touching — pushing down toward the earth — and thus,
with less force downward, we're taller.

We can fully expect that as the population increases, and we receive
less downward pushing by the FSM, we'll continue to grow in height.
Conversely, we can expect that the sudden occurrence of a worldwide
plague would cause our average height to decrease. This phenomenon
can be verified in historical records. We find that re-
gions undergoing health crises have shorter people-
strong evidence that the theory is sound.

No one is saying that the FSM theory of gravity is
necessarily true, but at the very least, it's based on
sound science, sound enough to be included in the
curriculum with the other nonproven theories. Until
the currently taught theory of gravity, known as
Newtonism, is proven as fact, alternatives should be
taught as well.

.

Jesus, you don't expect me to spend all day reading through all that, do you? I have Max Clifford books to read.
Did you answer my questions? A short paragraph will do.
If Adam and Eve weren't Chinese, where did the Chinese come from?
Why didn't they eat the serpent rather than the forbidden fruit? It would have been more nutritious and a lot less trouble in the long run.
Does God want us to eat insects? Are they kosher?
Who are the Sethians?
What is God's purpose with viruses?
If God doesn't provide guidance to all these questions who will?

bias. why atheists are deluded and demented.?

Is this title of your thread ironic zorrostrikes

There is only one person on this thread that fits that description

yourself I am afraid

You may believe in Jesus if you desire Zorrostrikes, I have no problem with that

But can you not be so hard on us Athiests?

One of us will be wrong of course

May 27, 2020 -- 1:49PM, UBLE/REGY wrote:

You may believe in Jesus if you desire Zorrostrikes, I have no problem with thatBut can you not be so hard on us Athiests?One of us will be wrong of course

This MY problem with religious types, they seem to be so fanatical about their beliefs. A person is entitled to his or her beliefs however weird they might seem, it's cool, I can live with that. But look! I'm an atheist, more than that, I'm a devout atheist. Totally and absolutely anti any religion or god you might care to mention. Am I preaching a gospel? Have I declared war on all those who would disagree with my view of things? I really don't CARE what others believe, or not, how others choose to live their lives. It's none of my business.
Just two words...... "PEACE..... and ..........TOLERANCE. Capisce? Comprende?

No answers? Are they not in the book? Tough. What about the fundamentalist websites? Ask the questions they will invent some answers. Would you like some more questions? I would like some answers.

who is your question addressed to?

Zorrostrikes knows all the answers and it's his thread so I was asking him but anyone is free to give their opinion, it's an open forum.

No internet. Using a phone. Takes hours to recharge. Huge lag. Fionaven. .... Google sethians. I type with big fat fingers. People adapt. They do not evolve. Chinese eyes adapted to snow. Snow blindness etc. Black people have white under foot. Sunlight. Higher melanin. No dog has changed to a cat. Richard Lenski has watched over 70,000 generations of ecoli  bacteria remain ecoli bbacteria for over forty yRS. Some strains are weak. Some are strong. But they remain ecoli. (Michigan uni) theh adapt. This is the equivalent of 1.4 million yrs of man if evolution was bonefish. (20 yrs a generational average) 
Some one likes Richard dawkins borrowed trope about a spaghetti monster. Gravity is a weak force. Many physicists dont rate gravity as the king force. More a pawn. By placing ememphasis on gravity. They need dark energy and dark matter. Which they cannot find? While plasma physics which is gaining acceptance. MIT. Etc. Has the electro magnetic force as king. Gravity is very weak subset of it. It's 30.thousand times stronger. The fourth state of matter is plasma. Look up at the stars yoh see patterns resembling bar magnets. Plasmas in labs form all the sshapes we see in the universe. So why stick to the gravity model if plasmas fit better? The answer is an electromagnetic model would reduce the age of the universe to a scant time frame. Old universe gone. Evolution debunked. A water plasma in a lab when energy is applied forms the heavy elements.  Come to some conclusions.   
The people invested in CERN and looking for invisible black cats with bat wings, I mean dark matter. Have a secure job. Could take a lot of years to find something that doesn't exist. Crunching numbers and looking at computer generated graphs and simulations.  Google plasma physics. Einstein was one guy who was correct. About a lot. But he was not correct about it all. Entrenched views lead to steady jobs. Tenure. It took thirty yrs before they switched from steady state to ccosmic expansion and true big bang. Guys die and let go of the reins. If plasma models are correct. Then Richard Dawkins has invested his life defending a load of carp. Or crap. 
As we are about to leave for home soon. It's moot. The illusion has lasted long enough to ensnare many. Itchy ears and false teachers.

Bonefish... Bonefide. I've triedvto turn off predictive text . It's having a laugh.  Can I buy bonefish in a specialist shop?  my spelling mright not be perfect but ffs.

I want to add revisions to English. Replace .the. With t. And thought with thot .

T man was thot to be slender.

People adapt. They do not evolve.

we used to be fish, and a few other different species, who knows what we'll be in the future

You only have to read the OP to realise evolution misses a few out. Back in the late 80s my biology teacher at school used to have a picture of a monkey at 5 stages with the furthest on the left swinging from a tree to the modern human standing upright in a suit and tie. Depending on what grades we got, each pupil would be given a number with 1 being the swinging from the tree monkey to 5 the apparent "businessman"... no racist connotations just evolution one. I'd imagine in todays society, it wouldnt go down too well with pupils coming back from school with a picture of a monkey next to a poor test result but reading this thread reminds me that there should have been a number 0.... a primordial sludge lurking on rocks washed up from the sea that somehow managed to evolve into life

nofx:

cause of gravity has been known for a decades

gravity not as a force, but as a consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass.


there are some super / short videos on youtube demonstrating how this works - fun to watch

Sheep to wolf. I thot about a t shirt with the stages yii described. Ape to man. Then man to werewolf. It's absurd to me.
If you use a comedy approach ... An amoeba, evolves into a sea lice, then a fish, a frog, to a rat, to a marmaset,to a chimp to a man. ... So a frog becomes a prince. I imagine that Lucifer will smile at that small joke.

Every animal has a percentage of ORPHAN GENES. These genes do not ccorrespond to any aanimal we know about. Orphan. A hhigh percentage of 15-20 % . Apes also have their high percentage . Together that creates a huge gap. We are not a 99 percent match. This nnumber was generated by a ten yr sequencing program that assumed apes and men were brothers. They copy and pasted some data to shorten computing time.
Today you can sequence much quicker. In hours. Every type of simian has been sequenced.
We have DNA three billion  letters long. One percent drift is a hundredth. 30 million differences. Or changes? Mutated damage if you prefer. A mouse is a supposed 97.5 match... .
There are at least eight million species on this 100 percent scenario. So every percent should contain around 80 thousand species. But in our one percent. We have oourselves and the apes?
This is a trick of the advertising agencies.
Domestic kills 99.9 percent of all known germs.

Two sspecies in one whole percent. Many scientific sites. Have various changing percentages. There are sites saying ales are 90  percent . 92... 95... Etc.  It is like the famous scene in the Manchurian Candidate. 57 communists. Pick a solid number? This is guesswork or corporate trickery. Either ite bad sscience or a con.
Science has to be precise. Repeatable. 
They will not tell you an exact number of ORPHAN GENES. Can they count?

May 28, 2020 -- 11:48AM, lmfao wrote:

nofx:cause of gravity has been known for a decades gravity not as a force, but as a consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass.there are some super / short videos on youtube demonstrating how this works - fun to watch

lmfao
Nobody actually knows what causes gravity, e.g.:

Where Does Gravity Come From?
https://www.universetoday.com/75705/where-does-gravity-come-from/

Everything you thought you knew about gravity is wrong
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/everything-you-thought-you-knew-about-gravity-is-wrong/2019/08/01/627f3696-a723-11e9-a3a6-ab670962db05_story.html


Not even Mr Einstein knew.

Should have said nobody except nofx!

1005 of Icelandic teenagers are atheists - religion is just something they study not follow - seems a good way to go to me

100%...

May 29, 2020 -- 9:25AM, FatherMaguire wrote:

1005 of Icelandic teenagers are atheists - religion is just something they study not follow - seems a good way to go to me

Sounds good to me. Nothing wrong with kids learning about it. It's part of our history, something people used to do.

Zorro, you have a warped understanding of evolution. Every species existing today has been evolving for the same length of time from a common ancestor. Man didn't evolve from a present-day ape any more than a chimpanzee evolved from man, they evolved from common ancestors.

Charlie is right. Science is never "settled" as some might claim, the current understanding is that which best fits available observations and can be demonstrated to predict experimental results. It is one which could be disproved if an observation didn't fit the theory, unlike the god hypothesis which is set up so that it can not be disproved.

From Hinduism to Darwin , men looked at animals and compared themselves  to them. With 8 million kinds you will aabsolutely find animals that look similar. Any  designer  . We design electronics and a freeview box looks much like a DVD player . You invent eight million creatures.  you will get common themes. Failures and successes.  They have the same philosophy of an anclient priest in EEgypt. .. Darwin and family are pyramid junkies. Weened on eastErnie mystical philosophIRS. Forcing water into a shape they want. Many proper bbiologists cannot see how you get something from nothing. Any basic DNA organism needs five components. Information. Food intake. Ability to absorb energy. Assemblers of information. Reproduction. All five have to exist at once. Or you have nothing.  Darwin knew nothing about dna. It is what he wishes for?  Men worship God or something else. Money.sex.power.religion.golf. What you do with your ttime is an investment. What you love and worship. It blinds you to God. The genuine article. Who has a opponent who wants to test you. Satan.Lucifer. Darwin's family are committed to serving that angel. The great architect is Lucifer. Their god. A deceiver. He is an angel. Not a god. They have written thousands of books about their god and his ideas . Brown nosing him. Kings wearing aprons?  Colleges and uuniversities with freemasons groups. Recruiting people to rule. To force their beliefs onto us. Bush family freemasons. Washington was a freemason. They are power on earth. Science is captured. It corporations. They own the fed. It prints money. They buy opinion. They pay scholarships. Science is no longer free. Pasteur could potter about and do what he liked. EINSTEIN TOO. Dr enrich was a free agent. Today if you want to be a scientist then you better coinform to their rules. Manufactured atheism. Evolution is a fact? In science there are .no facts. We hypothesize. We test and retest.  Evolution is not testable. It's an explanation. Like any religion. We came from a mud pool billions of yrs ago. They show startrekk  shows with life emerging from cosmic ooze. Its fantasy. We investigate the truth. If the people proposing that truth are tainted. Watch out. Germany the master race made their tRuth's real. Eugenics. Their scientists did as they were told. Science is  a job. It used to be a johnny of a vicar with a butterfly collection. It's industrial. Financed. If you believe in God . Leave the building. Yet... Forty percent of scientists believe in a god. ( NEIL DE GRASSE TYSON s figure. Atheist)  I see a bias in Darwin and his ilk. They want to deny God his place, because they are controlling all society. Kings. Presidents,finance. It's world authority vs God. They believe they can cause word famines, wars,  and reestablish control yet again. What we see now on the news. One day the world will unite under a beautiful dream of humanism. We see ourselves as the apex. Again the master race. Super ego. We don't need God. We are God. One man will convince the world he is the new saviour. A false Christ. A man. You are propping that up. You chose that paradigm. Which is doomed.  many have had a run at it. Practice makes perfect. Napoleon and Hitler,Alexander etc. Today it's EU. UN. G7. . I don't like religion. I hate it. I belong to my father. He is my servant. I serve him. A family. Satan makes religions and beliefs that mingle truths with falsehoods. Goerbals big lies. They stand up to scrutiny for decade or a century. Phlogiston was established scientific fact. It's laughed at now. We believed many scientific facts over the centuries. People protected lies.  You are protecting a philosophy. An explanation that gives you nothing bback. I have a computer. A physical object from physics and chemistry. Evolution ttheory is not giving us anything. Except a way to defy god . Explain how  you will avoid a gas bill? I will avoid payment. I will go to court. I will argue my case for liberty. Eventually you pay or go to jail. Or emigrate.  Men need to tell themselves God does not exist or they lose traction in this world. A mafia boss cannot wipe out the opposition if he truly believes in God. He wants money,power,influence,sex,and rich things.  He can't live on a promise. He is a worldly man. Non spiritual. He does not want God or guilt. Darwin helps hI'm out. He is now an animal in a concrete jungle. A soul is worthless to him.

Jesus is hated in some quarters because God will dissolve the earth. All our precious 'stuff' our collections, our art, our hard wwork, our achievements, our knowledge, basically our egos. All of it is put into a fire. In 1497. In Florence the Dominican priest Giralamo Savonarola burned thousands of objects deemed to be products of vanity. Books.mirrors.artworks, musical instruments. The bonfire of the vanities. We value some paintings at a 100 million. While people starve. A canvas with oil is important because an artist's ego invested some time smearing pigments on to it? An insanity of waste. Wooden frames. Hang on walls. I recognize my fragile ego in art. I want to justify my existence by my labours. I used to be a furniture man slogging up stairs with grand pianos. Sweating buckets. I don't want it all swept away? Who wants that. We all wasted our lives striving. God has promised to take it all away. Wind it up and take a proportion of humanity away to heaven. He takes away our teddy bear. Gives us a royal estate and eternity. We gripe about his callous cruelty. We love the earth. We are natural men.blue planet viewers. So God is now a villain. A monster. You buy a lottery ticket in the hope of killing your old self.you want to be rich. Have a pool. House on the coast. Nice food and wine etc. Many people want to change but on their terms. God promises us that heaven is unimaginably good. This idea we sit around and sing hymns would be turgid. Easily imagined. God is our father. Not a monster. But many of us are monsters. Serial killers. Cruel sadist. War mongers . Tribalists. Racists.haters. I hate that my fellow men have no imagination and choose to settle for life on earth.   why steal anything. It all belongs to god. It's ours.  God is a creator. He might have ten planets oit there with tigers. He may let us visit all the planet's in the universe. I imagined that. The future is unimaginable. Why settle for here. It's not realism to believe in materialism. When matter is all jangling electrons with no solidity. To be jaded. To define reality in small human terms.

The thing with atheism is that its advocates do not try to impose their beliefs on others.

We have had 2000+ years of the god squaders imposing their beliefs on us.

And, quite incredibly, in the 21st century, with the knowledge we now have of the universe, they are still being allowed to do so.

May 30, 2020 -- 9:06AM, Jack Hacksaw wrote:

The thing with atheism is that its advocates do not try to impose their beliefs on others.We have had 2000+ years of the god squaders imposing their beliefs on us.And, quite incredibly, in the 21st century, with the knowledge we now have of the universe, they are still being allowed to do so.

YES! Absolutely.

What do you need to build a god from nothing?
A credulous, insecure mind, fearful of the future is capable of constructing or adopting an imaginary friend, counsellor and persecutor even to the point of hearing voices or hallucinating. It might make that mind feel better or it might not. Doesn't make it real to the outside world apart from hearing the incoherence spouted by the afflicted.

Muslim reportre in prison inEgypt for 1256 days. June 5th6th. Will be 1260 days. Three and a half yre. Dec 23 2016. U.n. Voted against Israel resolution 2334. The tribulation began. Tthe troubles of Jacob. Aka Israel. I gguess that Egypt might trelease the reporter on thursday-friday. 1260 days
Fionaven. God created us. You are not god. Humanity is the ccreation.
The moon will switch off. it will be afflicted. Then the sun will follow.  they have sent up various probes to manage the coverage. . They will explain it to the herd. 

There is only fear in those without god. Yii chose paper money. Your illusions . Men in controll. Another illusion. Ones lrage asteroid ends it all.

So the answer to my question is...don't ask. Hmm, sounds a reasonable way to avoid cognitive dissonance. Good luck Zorro.

Dunno about any of that stuff, but....the good news is that the pope is speaking out about coronavirus.  So, with his connections, I'd imagine a very rapid end to our troubles.

Not so sure saying your prayers is enough. Even if you're extra diligent about it. Coronas it seems is His pure and indiscriminate wrath

zorrostrikes • June 1, 2020 4:26 AM BST
I had it twice. It comes and goes. A resident. Like mmalaria? Last week ii was very shoft of breath. I keep waking with dry mouth. Cotton mouth. . Everyone is getting iit.

Death is not the end. Christians die. Like Lazarus. The two children Jesus raised. Jesus himself. My death if it comes from covid. Is welcome. I don't like pain. Life.  in a corrupted state. In prison with pagans and unbelievers. The pope is linked to freemasons. Opus dei . This earth is the closest to hell that Christians experience. If you chose the wworld over god. The earth is closest to heaven. The pope if he believes in jesus is no better tHan any other cChristian. GOD decides who the saints are. Not a council in Rome.

Fionaven. You presume that all Christians hear voices. Have visions. Nope. Maybe one percent at best. We are mostly levelheaded like James Clerk Maxwell who facilitated Einstein. Newton understood forces in nature. He knew God existed. By use of logic. Luck does not exist. If you are a gambler who is 'lucky' you are deluded. The BBC made a documentary last month about determinism. It aalso showed an eight part drama series called DEVS. About determinism and multiverses. The ffuture is set. We cannot change it. The appointment in Samara.

Stanislaus Petrov was a rRussian ccolonel who stopped ww3. The man who saved the world(2014) Kevin Costner interviews him.
I have aargued with myself why Satan is playing along with God. If I was Satan I would sit on my hands do nnothing. Retire. . But he is locked on course.  He is cocontributing to the time line. He helped to build iIsrael for his own reasons . The rapture is a rescue. From what? Covid is another disense? Maybe Ai, quantum ccomputing and a cashless society, a society of humanists. So much is about to happen to humanity in the near future. Many people cannot cope with cash machines now. The internet is now mandatory. Minutes ago a man on a documentary said that the internet has eevolved. No ite been upgraded. It's not a biological dsystem at all. We direct it. Ee write the code using a text editor, pagemill or dreamweaver. Or ssomething eequivalent. Brainwashing statements.
Binary is not a universal language. It needs a compiler.  capt Picard yesterday on the horror ch said binary is a universal language. He punched in a code. 11001001. To save the Byner planet. If yoh use ASCII. It means... E.  We assign a meaning to binary. If we sent binary to amother planet. It might mean  x. Or :-:*+.  It is completely arbitrary.
The wworld dI'd not end in 1962. Or 2014. It cannot end. For another thousand yrs. What ends is man ruling man, overseen by Satan. God returns to end that. The worlds safe. I brought up the Russian col. I believe if they llaunched a thousand missiles at the USA. The radioactive elements wwould turn into lead, or cheese. I would dare that they fire e ten at israel. Because it would be meaningless. A nuclear event is hinted at in the bible, but it's a limited exchange. It poisons a pportion.   
God is in total control. Outside of space time. We are like a DVD of jaws. We face the shark. Tthe wrecking of the boat. You cannot change the story. GOD IS OUTSIDE THE FOUR DIMENSIONS. ... We are it the greatest creature in the universe. We are grounded in mundane bs. Inside a corruption. A lesser reality. By judging God on our level it's like an ant judging a man for dropping a cup of water on the nest. We cannot understand god as if he were some dictator.  Jesus was limited as a man. HE had less knknowledge. Less power. Jesus was a man fully functioning with grace. One day every Christian will be like Jesus. Jesus is king of kings. When he ascended he was restored to his full omnipotence.  Part of the trinity,godhead.

Fionaven. You presume that all Christians hear voices. Have visions.

A credulous, insecure mind, fearful of the future is capable of constructing or adopting an imaginary friend, counsellor and persecutor even to the point of hearing voices or hallucinating.

How do you get from there to "all Christians"? Not all the credulous and insecure are Christians, far from it and not all go on the hear voices or hallucinate but some do.
It's even more astonishing that the many who bow and pray to their god yet never hear or see a response over an entire lifetime still believe that there is something there. I can only borrow your term "deluded" to account for it.

Bow and scrape to a God? Jesus suffered for me. He is the servant of mankind. We belong to him because we are his bbrother's and sisters. Family helps family. God is ourvfather.  Not a dictator. You fear your father and love hI'm. But fear is there only at the beginning . It's there to protect and discipline you.

You follow the authority of men. They enlist you in their agendas. You prop them up. You vote them in and you fight for them. Red party vs blue.  You worship Satanists who wear masks. David Bowie pop god. Who in an interview with NME declared he was now a Satanist.    He tried Buddhism and Christianity. Like sampling cookies?  His last action was BlackStar which contained lyrics from a witch's curse. 
Following men over god. Men that have sided with Satan. Real or imaginary they play it out. You follow that.
Save the planet is an agenda. They use your idealism to enthralled you. Just as Hitler enthralled the Germans. The master race. Teutonic knights, they were their own heroes till they began losing. Degradation followed. Monsters who began as heroes.
You imagine it will ccontinue and continues. God uses the small things to confound us.
I warned you years ago that the world was unravelling. You really are locked on course.
Adolf Hitler never repented. He was in control till the end. Killed his dog. His wife and then himself. While the Goebbels killed their children with cyanide.
They all were in control. Manipulating their life to the max. Stark reality. Jaded. Obeying authority of men.
My loyalty is to God maker of the universe. Physics points to a designer . Biology to a designer. The bible's formatting. The narrative of the bible not bested by anything before or sonce. All you have is materialism and sarcasm. God is coming. Johnny cash tells you too. James clerk Maxwell and newton are stellar minds who sought out God and found him. You are not them. You are jaded. Have you sold out to the masons?

Atheists can be Humanists Zorro, who also want a better World?

Each to their own Zorro, is the best attitude, whatever suits us

Can Leipzig hold on to their half time lead?, make the world a bit better for me today

You talk of tyrants yet your Jesus god was imposed upon the world by at least four empires. First, the post-Constantine Roman Empire brought it to Europe, then Spanish, Portuguese and British Empires spread it to the world. Their missionaries destroyed vibrant cultures and killed the joy of living. You too are a missionary bringing your joyless cult to those who have rejected it. Keep it for yourself, we who have renounced it don't want it.

Wow. Blaming God for empires. Not read Daniel have you.
Newton wrote over a million words on Daniel and Revelation. He dismantled it all. Analyzing every word.
God destroys the empire's of the world. The last empire being a mix of iron and clay. Power and democracy. The rOman eempire was the iron empire. String and powerful. This is all symbolized by the statue which has a gold head.Babylonian. Empire. Needs and Persians.Greece.Rome.  Daniel describes Alexander and his four generals. Two hundred years before he is born.
A stone hits the statue and it is destroyed.
The stone then grows into a mountain. God destroys
The empire's of humanity.
God's allowed Satan to test humanity. He is your god. Until you defect to Jesus.he makes you follow religions. False belists or personal power or greed. Humanism is the latest pagan atrocity.  Self righteous bs.
God made the earth. We are tenants. He supplies us with life and fuel. Then you mock him? Should he reward yyoh for your insults. Would you as god feed paganism.
Gods day of vengeance has been on cards from day one. Your world justified slavery for thousands of yrs. Oh it has  changed the last hundred yrs? My arsenal. We gave the slaves low income housing and minimum wages. 
The lease is up and the owner takes his planet back.
Jesus tells you why.. In two parables. Matthew 21:23 And Matthew 22. You killed gods prophets his son. You refused to pay the landowner. You killed again and again to prop up your own agendas.  you refuse to come to the weadding of the landowners son. You then insult the king by doing your own thing.   
You are insulting God. That proves you are a twit.
Insult a man. You might get shot. Insult god and it's off the Richter scale. We are not heroes. We are caiding a world famine deliberately for a dubious reason. A first world reason. 350,000 deaths of aged people vs 175 million third world peasants. We have Fotry mmillion unemployed since march in the USA. Entire global destabilization. Gods not even opened the seals yet. All this is our doing. Our manage ment of earth. God handed the whole ball of wax to Adam to be the good steward. Adam believed Satan and lost that authority. We have been fighting world authority and empires since then.  We failed. We tried to resist Satan and it failed. Jesus won on the cross. He gives us two thousand yrd to claim victory with him. If you chose anything else you remain a loser allied to Satan And his empires.  You are a cosmic loser. The greatest biggest loser of all time. You chose this world over everything else in all of existence. You limited your vision. Wore blinkers. Saw a limited spectrum and said that's all that matters. We see a tiny amount with our eyes. Without vision a blind man does not see the stars. Does not know he is on a planet. Cannot observe experiments in labs.  You chose to be willfully blind. None are so blind as those that will not see.   
The world is dying. It's over. Mankind is going under. Dome of us made the choice to love Jesus and uunderstand his deep meanings. You act like an animal, want to be an animal. Chose it. God respects your choice.  forcing love is rape. It's got to be voluntary. You chose Satan's kingdom. You,ll fightvthe humanist csuse. Will not understand why you are dying. You chose this limited world. A sand grain over eternity and vast dimensions.
Physics tells us they exist. Yet you reduce God to Morgan freeman.

I recently told a someone, a regular church-goer, " lots of people don't go to church, doesn't mean they don't care. " Religious people seem to think they have the monopoly on  good thoughts and actions towards others. Anybody can do it ( in MY name ) simply because they want to, it isn't licensed.

No Zorro, I blame empires for the spread of your god. Others were quite happy with their own beliefs and customs before the imposition of the Jesus god. Twisting arguments in this way does you no credit. I fear taking up more of your time on the subject of your delusions will be a waste of mine, neither you nor I will have a change of opinion.

Many false prophets will come in my name. 
Many will use god to become rich.  False pastors exist that have made billions on the bible network worldwide. Preaching the ggospel of prosperity. They say they are rich, but are naked. The happy clappy Christians.  the name it and claim it. Treating god like a wish machine. God won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz... My friends all bit porches I must make amends...   This Is not sound.  Christians that prosper in Satan's kingdom.  Living a pprosperous life in Satan's kingdom and then die and go to heaven?  Thats rich.

well if it was at all possible; i am now more of an athiest than i was previously

Foinavon 12 - Don Diego de la Vega 0

God will return after the rapture to end the last empire. The age of man ruling man will end. The roman empire changed to the holy roman empire, it mixed iron with clay. The British empire took over. They worship A god. An Anglo Saxon god. ' in god we trust' is on the dollar bill. turn over that dollar and the pyramid is there with the all seeing eye. Lucifer is gof to them. Freemasons, who rule b y proxy for Satan. The great architect. It's a phoney pseudonym . Call him the mighty oz if you like?  The dollar bill is their declaration to the world. With this currency they ccontrol the world. It also Haas written. New world order. You all are blind. How is god reresponsible for the nwe world order and satanic pyramids. You belong to Lucifer. Jesus said to the Jews. You are of your father the devil. They chased him and he left them . Until you defect you belong to Lucifer. Be an atheist,a Buddhist,a Muslims, a scientology,a Taoist, a Jehovah witness, atheist.. Humanist.. It's all the same thing a naturist man with an allegiance to the world. By all means save the planet. Join Greta to join up in a last effort. Use the cross of levitation. The cross of Satan. The mark of the beast. The infinity symbol. One last rally. GOD WILL BE THE ENEMY. You will defend this world under the rule of Lucifer. GGermany defended the fuhrer. As the comedians Mitchell and Webb said... Are we the bad guys? Wave the flags. Draw rainbows. Save the planet by recycling. Eat soy. Get cancer, be democratic red or blue? Does not matter , other are controlled by frfreemasons.
Google kings of England and freemasons. Last four kings in aprons. Even the queens dad. Why do kings need to pay homage to freemasons. You are bought and paid for. Have a dollar. Have a billion. What's your price. We just print what we like. Sell us your loyalty . The un use the 33 levels of freemasons in their logo. They don't need to hide it. Coz you are either blind or in their  service.  A plenty or  a master. .. You chose slavery to lucifer, the temporary king of earth. Who sells false beliefs. Any flavour, but Jesus.time is up. All bad things come to a bad end. Game over.

Other gods are available, Baph, although there are none that I could recommend.

Gee. Whit a surprise baphomet, I mean hornet is an atheist, using a Dennis Wheatley satanic avatar. I wonder who he identifies with.

i can highly recomment Fonseca Crusted port, Mr 100/1. A fine freeflowing god in my abode

well it aint Dennis Wheatley. Ye need to go bck a bit further than him

Alisteir crowley and tower house..  the devils an angel. The goat is middle eastern ref to sins being discharged by Jews in desert. Azazel.  You should be using someone who looks really good like beyonce or lady gaga, worship, not a gat? Goat. So hammer house.

and you worship Johnston McCulley, or is it jusy Don Diego? You should have picked Moses instead of a pulp writer for your avatar dear chap, you may have gone to heaven

but it is good to get you to reveal your true self, accompanied with a few slurs.Rather than the bible preacher you want us to believe alongside your overwritten esays

What do you gain. I have no ego to hurt. An old man who cannot  be snatched out of God's grasp. Corrupt in a ccorrupt world. I do not preach. Jesus preaches. He want who he wants. He saves those that seek hI'm. Who wants him. I try to warn. I try to get yoh to turn back. But yoh won't do it. Like all controlling sons of Cain. You believe you know better. Tubal Cain.

They push you backwards into the abyss. To fall forever. Never to hit bottom. That's a wise choice. Freemasonry. .

nah; it's more simple & less biblical than that. I just don't like imposters, especiall ones who get rattled when rumbled, & throw uneducated slurs about. I'm not offended btw; with you calling me a devil that is, you see i don't believe in him either

Why can't Jesus and God show themselves today and remove all doubt, do you not found that strange, that religion and religious figures all appeared thousands of years before modern technology and mass media could properly validate their existence and ask a few questions.

Surely there'd be no harm in proving their existence by repapering instead of leaving everyone to argue about it.

re-appering not repapering lol

Dont think Jesus existed. Completely made up by Christians probably from Rome a 1,000 miles away. Pauls Jesus wasn't earthly so they had to invent a historical Jesus but give it enough time for all witnesses to that period to be dead. Hundreds of people could write in Judea at the time they even wrote mundane every day boring events but none of these people even mentioned Jesus. First non-christian writings(non forged) about Jesus are in the 2nd century by which time these people were writing about what the Christians were telling them. Mark the first gospel writer had plainly never set foot in that area and knew nothing about Jewish life.His mistakes were corrected by the Matthew gospel but repeated on the Luke gospel.

You spent energy and time to ppick out a picture and name that you identify with. Not rrandom. My avatar is a drawing of catwoman I did thirty yrs ago. To match up with  zorro which I was watching when I needed a username.  You chose a derivative of Satan. Mephisto, lord of the flies etv your contemporIRS in every fforum does the same thing. So original.  Devil 135 taken?

your anger is becoming apparent, Don Diego. You have developed a stutter. I may one day decide to give you a lesson about medieval history & in particular Mr Baph-omet. Alas today i cannot be arsed. I am however revelloing (biblical word btw) in your squirm

Postman try reading a book. Richard Dawkins admitted in debate Jesus was a real man in history. Tacitus, pliny the younger, Josephus, and thirty historians of Rome reported the death of Christ.  only the Fortran weirdos believe Jesus did not exist. 99 perrcent of oxford and Cambridge  historians would stare at you and wonder what you were smoking.

Richard Dawkins is not a historian.Josephus passage in 92ad is almost universally agreed to be a forgery.The others you quote are all 2nd century.The Josephus passage  in the middle of a sex scandal inserted by the 4th-century religious scribe Eusebius.Plenty of historians doubt the historicity of Jesus.In the 1970 Thomas Thompson wrote a book about Moses being non-historical and lost his job for those views by those kind christians.Now almost everyone agrees he was mythological.

I gave up the internet. Jerking off too much. I don't stutter. It's predictive text that screws with my immaculate spelling. Using a mobile.
Oh, i jerk off, I live as a man, you caknot get to heaven?
Jesus turned to the thief on the cross and let him into heagen. Heaven.  Sinners reach god. Only the arrogant,the control freaks,manipulators that try to gleam details of othere userd dont reach heaBen. Spell check.  Paul-saul said .. Everything is permissible to Christians. But not efficacious. We have grace. Not a iron constitution.   go get an infinity tattoo. Make a  commitment,

Jesus thinks adam and eve were the first humans.Jesus believed in a world wide flood.Jesus believed in a real moses.All these things we know are not true. What does that tell you about this Jesus character.

are you a Christian, Don Diego?

Jesus would be no good in this pandemic . When asked about hygiene regarding his "apostles" he was asked about them being dirty because they never washed their hands before eating. Jesus told the person there is no need to wash your hands after having a dump or before you eat. He told them only words could hurt you not what goes into your body. He had zero worries about bacteria or germs. For a diety, he sure didn't know much.

Jesus turned to the cross forgive the robber told him to believe in me and you will join him in heaven.So the criteria for getting to heaven is accepting Jesus.Is Jeffrey Dahmer the serial killer now in heaven.He became a born again Christian while in jail accepting Jesus as his savior.Where in your opinion is Jeffrey Dahmer now??

Jesus turned to the cross forgive the robber told him to believe in me and you will join him in heaven.So the criteria for getting to heaven is accepting Jesus.Is Jeffrey Dahmer the serial killer now in heaven.He became a born again Christian while in jail accepting Jesus as his savior.Where in your opinion is Jeffrey Dahmer now??

Jesus turned to the cross forgive the robber told him to believe in me and you will join him in heaven.So the criteria for getting to heaven is accepting Jesus.Is Jeffrey Dahmer the serial killer now in heaven.He became a born again Christian while in jail accepting Jesus as his savior.Where in your opinion is Jeffrey Dahmer now??

Jesus turned to the cross forgive the robber told him to believe in me and you will join him in heaven.So the criteria for getting to heaven is accepting Jesus.Is Jeffrey Dahmer the serial killer now in heaven.He became a born again Christian while in jail accepting Jesus as his savior.Where in your opinion is Jeffrey Dahmer now??

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It's woworse than that. Jesus is king of kings. So bow down. We are a family in heaBen. Heaven, what's heaBen? Predictive crappola. Jesus is the first born son. We are arooted into the family. The bride. The body of Christ. 

You are a sad internet viewer. A little hAlf formed creature. Half a man that refused a gift fromvgod.  The end is ccoming and you think ite a bump in the road. I know what hell is and it's not flames. I want nobody to pick that. Not Hitler, not you. You have another warning. Turn back. Seek god. Otherwise you aactively have picked hell.
God condemns no one. Yoit free choice condemns yoh. You are your own man. You are swallowing the doctrines of devils. Unclean spirits. Like david Bowie. False teachers that tell you Jesus dI'd not exist.

My grandfather wwas a freemason. Before him i have no idea or interest who my aancestors were?  I could say they did not exist. Clearly they did. Investigation leads to information. Living in iignorance .

yup, definitely creaking

you've gone from Don Diego to Billy Graham

Another half armed interpretation of the bible . Postman .
The thief was honest. This man dI'd nnothing, he helped. I did the things theh accused me of.. He knew Jesus was a king. He recognized thus messiah. Lord remember me when yoh enter your kingdom.  Jesus then told him he would reach paradise. .   
Your Jeffrey dahmer version isvtwisted all the way.

Jesus was judged by the authorities of the world. He allowed humanity to judge hI'm once. Now ite your turn. You don't get to judge god ever. You arare the creathion. Not the creator. You wI'll be judged. If you ever sinned. You will be guilty. Absolutes. Murder or petty paper theft from stationary store. Absolute crime. You have a way out. You refuse god and his authority. But accept your oan and the politicians who rule you.  You belong in hell.you made that choice. You can escape priding. But you stay. Institutional prisoners.

Billy graham was a mason. Another felse preacher.

They teach you to be good. T get to heaven . False. Thieves and murderers reach heaven and god.  Sinners enter hraven. All men are sinners. So nobody can get in on their record. Best doctor in world can be refused entry. 
Only christ the messiah decides. He chose me, made me see him. Gave me the holy spirit. I was completed. Made whole. You are the defective one still. You have a soul. A body.  But are not Trinitarian. Not of the body of Christ.  If yoh had the sspirit. You would know jesus is god.  You are still a seed. Dead seed. Or a tare, a weed.

TIMBER!!!

Mahmoud Hussein. Day 1,257 in jail in Egypt. The living clock. 

Day 1,260 is three and a half Jewish yrs. 360, 360 x2, plus 180.  Time, times and half a time.

This weekend . The twilight zone comes to you.

Everyone is a loser. Steve jobs is swimming underground. He lost it all. In atheist terms he was here in a sliver of time. Nobody will remember him. Ossimandius.
God is eternal . You don't exist. You are at best a shadow. Until you are born again.

Zorro got another daft doomsday calender

Daniel 10