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Police spoke to Dominic Cummings after Durham trip in lockdown
Exclusive: PM’s adviser was with parents away from London home when he had coronavirus symptoms
Matthew Weaver https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown
Police spoke to Dominic Cummings about breaching the government’s lockdown rules after he was seen in Durham, 264 miles from his London home, despite having had symptoms of coronavirus, the Guardian can reveal.
Officers approached Boris Johnson’s key adviser days after he was seen rushing out of Downing Street when the prime minister tested positive for the virus at the end of March, a joint investigation by the Guardian and the Mirror has found.
At the time, the government had instructed people not to travel and to stay at their family homes. Cummings, however, was seen in Durham. A member of the public is understood to have seen him and made a complaint to the police.
When asked if Cummings had been warned about breaching the lockdown, a spokesman for Durham Constabulary said: “On Tuesday, March 31, our officers were made aware of reports that an individual had travelled from London to Durham and was present at an address in the city.
“Officers made contact with the owners of that address who confirmed that the individual in question was present and was self-isolating in part of the house.
“In line with national policing guidance, officers explained to the family the guidelines around self-isolation and reiterated the appropriate advice around essential travel.”
Downing Street has previously refused to disclose where Cummings was staying during the lockdown.
The Guardian has also been told Cummings was spotted near the gate of his parents’ home with a young child, believed to be his son, at around 5.45pm on Sunday 5 April, five days after the complaint was made to the police.
This was just over a week after he began self-isolating with symptoms of the virus. It was also less than two hours before the prime minister was admitted to hospital after his symptoms worsened.
The Guardian has previously asked Downing Street about this sighting in April, but officials declined to comment.
The disclosure that Cummings was spoken to by police raises potentially awkward questions for him and No 10. With the UK in the grip of the pandemic, the government’s own advice urged everyone to stay at their main homes to avoid the spread of the virus and to save lives.
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“You should not be visiting family members who do not live in your home,” the guidance said. “The only exception is if they need help, such as having shopping or medication dropped off.”
Instead, Cummings appears to have made the trip from his home in east London to Durham at a time when Johnson and the health secretary, Matt Hancock, had tested positive.
Downing Street said Cummings had developed symptoms “over the weekend” of the 28 and 29 March.
When questioned about Cummings’ whereabouts during the following week, a Downing Street spokesperson said only that he was in contact with No 10.
A Durham resident who lives near the Cummings family home expressed shock and annoyance after the 5 April sighting.
The witness, who did not wish to be named, told the Guardian: “I was really annoyed. I thought it’s OK for you to drive all the way up to Durham and escape from London. I sympathise with him wanting to do that, but other people are not allowed to do that. It’s one rule for Dominic Cummings and one rule for the rest of us.”
Breaking lockdown rules has been a resigning issue for senior officials.
Prof Neil Ferguson, the epidemiologist whose modelling prompted the lockdown, quit as a member of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) for flouting physical distancing rules when he was visited by his girlfriend.
After he stood aside, senior Tories insisted he had done the right thing.
Hancock said he was “speechless” and added: “I think he took the right decision to resign.”
The former Tory leader Sir Iain Duncan Smith said Ferguson’s behaviour “risks undermining the government’s lockdown message”.
Scotland’s chief medical officer, Catherine Calderwood, was also forced to quit after making two trips to her second home during the coronavirus lockdown.
The sightings raise questions about the government’s commitment to the “stay at home” message it was repeating to the public in the first stage of the lockdown.
The Guardian has already revealed that the communities secretary, Robert Jenrick, travelled to his parents’ home on the same weekend. Jenrick said he was delivering medicine and essential supplies.
Cummings was seen running through Downing Street on 27 March after it was announced that Johnson and Hancock had tested positive for coronavirus.
Cummings and his wife, Mary Wakefield, an editor at the Spectator, last month gave a detailed account of how they coped under lockdown while having the symptoms of coronavirus.
Writing in the magazine, Wakefield said that Cummings rushed home to look after her when she began showing symptoms. A day later he began feeling “weird” and then couldn’t get out of bed. “Day in, day out for 10 days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms,” she said.
The article goes on: “Just as Dom was beginning to feel better ... Boris was heading in the other direction, into hospital.” This was the evening when Cummings was first seen near Durham with the child. On the same evening, Scotland’s chief medical officer, Catherine Calderwood, was forced to resign after she was photographed visiting her second home in Fife.
Wakefield’s article does not say where they were during quarantine, but it adds: “After the uncertainty of the bug itself, we emerged from quarantine into almost comical uncertainty of London lockdown.” Wakefield has been asked to clarify whether the family were in their London home at the time.
In the same issue of the Spectator, Cummings wrote: “At the end of March and for the first two weeks of April I was ill, so we were both shut in together.” He described the experience as “sticky … Everything is covered in a layer of spilt Ribena, honey, peanut butter and playschool glue.”
A witness said they were going past the Cummings family home on 5 April on their regular exercise route when they heard Abba’s Dancing Queen playing loudly from the property.
“I got the shock of my life, as I looked over to the gates and saw him,” they said. “There was a child, presumably his little boy, running around in front. I recognised Dominic Cummings, he’s a very distinctive figure.”
Despite the mild weather that weekend, they said Cummings was wearing a dark coat and thick tartan scarf. “He must have been wearing them to protect himself while recovering from Covid-19,” they said.
The Guardian approached Downing Street for comment but had not received a response by the time of publication.
Exclusive: PM’s adviser was with parents away from London home when he had coronavirus symptoms
Matthew Weaver https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown
Police spoke to Dominic Cummings about breaching the government’s lockdown rules after he was seen in Durham, 264 miles from his London home, despite having had symptoms of coronavirus, the Guardian can reveal.
Officers approached Boris Johnson’s key adviser days after he was seen rushing out of Downing Street when the prime minister tested positive for the virus at the end of March, a joint investigation by the Guardian and the Mirror has found.
At the time, the government had instructed people not to travel and to stay at their family homes. Cummings, however, was seen in Durham. A member of the public is understood to have seen him and made a complaint to the police.
When asked if Cummings had been warned about breaching the lockdown, a spokesman for Durham Constabulary said: “On Tuesday, March 31, our officers were made aware of reports that an individual had travelled from London to Durham and was present at an address in the city.
“Officers made contact with the owners of that address who confirmed that the individual in question was present and was self-isolating in part of the house.
“In line with national policing guidance, officers explained to the family the guidelines around self-isolation and reiterated the appropriate advice around essential travel.”
Downing Street has previously refused to disclose where Cummings was staying during the lockdown.
The Guardian has also been told Cummings was spotted near the gate of his parents’ home with a young child, believed to be his son, at around 5.45pm on Sunday 5 April, five days after the complaint was made to the police.
This was just over a week after he began self-isolating with symptoms of the virus. It was also less than two hours before the prime minister was admitted to hospital after his symptoms worsened.
The Guardian has previously asked Downing Street about this sighting in April, but officials declined to comment.
The disclosure that Cummings was spoken to by police raises potentially awkward questions for him and No 10. With the UK in the grip of the pandemic, the government’s own advice urged everyone to stay at their main homes to avoid the spread of the virus and to save lives.
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“You should not be visiting family members who do not live in your home,” the guidance said. “The only exception is if they need help, such as having shopping or medication dropped off.”
Instead, Cummings appears to have made the trip from his home in east London to Durham at a time when Johnson and the health secretary, Matt Hancock, had tested positive.
Downing Street said Cummings had developed symptoms “over the weekend” of the 28 and 29 March.
When questioned about Cummings’ whereabouts during the following week, a Downing Street spokesperson said only that he was in contact with No 10.
A Durham resident who lives near the Cummings family home expressed shock and annoyance after the 5 April sighting.
The witness, who did not wish to be named, told the Guardian: “I was really annoyed. I thought it’s OK for you to drive all the way up to Durham and escape from London. I sympathise with him wanting to do that, but other people are not allowed to do that. It’s one rule for Dominic Cummings and one rule for the rest of us.”
Breaking lockdown rules has been a resigning issue for senior officials.
Prof Neil Ferguson, the epidemiologist whose modelling prompted the lockdown, quit as a member of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) for flouting physical distancing rules when he was visited by his girlfriend.
After he stood aside, senior Tories insisted he had done the right thing.
Hancock said he was “speechless” and added: “I think he took the right decision to resign.”
The former Tory leader Sir Iain Duncan Smith said Ferguson’s behaviour “risks undermining the government’s lockdown message”.
Scotland’s chief medical officer, Catherine Calderwood, was also forced to quit after making two trips to her second home during the coronavirus lockdown.
The sightings raise questions about the government’s commitment to the “stay at home” message it was repeating to the public in the first stage of the lockdown.
The Guardian has already revealed that the communities secretary, Robert Jenrick, travelled to his parents’ home on the same weekend. Jenrick said he was delivering medicine and essential supplies.
Cummings was seen running through Downing Street on 27 March after it was announced that Johnson and Hancock had tested positive for coronavirus.
Cummings and his wife, Mary Wakefield, an editor at the Spectator, last month gave a detailed account of how they coped under lockdown while having the symptoms of coronavirus.
Writing in the magazine, Wakefield said that Cummings rushed home to look after her when she began showing symptoms. A day later he began feeling “weird” and then couldn’t get out of bed. “Day in, day out for 10 days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms,” she said.
The article goes on: “Just as Dom was beginning to feel better ... Boris was heading in the other direction, into hospital.” This was the evening when Cummings was first seen near Durham with the child. On the same evening, Scotland’s chief medical officer, Catherine Calderwood, was forced to resign after she was photographed visiting her second home in Fife.
Wakefield’s article does not say where they were during quarantine, but it adds: “After the uncertainty of the bug itself, we emerged from quarantine into almost comical uncertainty of London lockdown.” Wakefield has been asked to clarify whether the family were in their London home at the time.
In the same issue of the Spectator, Cummings wrote: “At the end of March and for the first two weeks of April I was ill, so we were both shut in together.” He described the experience as “sticky … Everything is covered in a layer of spilt Ribena, honey, peanut butter and playschool glue.”
A witness said they were going past the Cummings family home on 5 April on their regular exercise route when they heard Abba’s Dancing Queen playing loudly from the property.
“I got the shock of my life, as I looked over to the gates and saw him,” they said. “There was a child, presumably his little boy, running around in front. I recognised Dominic Cummings, he’s a very distinctive figure.”
Despite the mild weather that weekend, they said Cummings was wearing a dark coat and thick tartan scarf. “He must have been wearing them to protect himself while recovering from Covid-19,” they said.
The Guardian approached Downing Street for comment but had not received a response by the time of publication.
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Not everyone country locked down and is still locked down and is spending billions on furloughed workers who are enjoying a paid holiday until October.
Where is the slide of his journey,did he stop?Next slide please
Relax. Everyone knows there are rules for the likes of Jenrick and Cummings. Then there are other rules if you aren't a tory.
I,d be more worried that the so called super brain of downing st,was the architect of a policy that even a bloke with the full weight of downing st and civil service at his disposal couldn't navigate his way around his own rules,what chance for the 70 million plebs, 
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everyone in the country even those with no common sense[,thats anybody not in the tory party] understood the tory,s 1st slogan, except those who drafted it and the same tory loons say anyone who doesnt understand their ridiculous new solgan is an idiot ,with no common sense
,everyone in the country even those with no common sense[,thats anybody not in the tory party] understood the tory,s 1st slogan, except those who drafted it and the same tory loons say anyone who doesnt understand their ridiculous new solgan is an idiot ,with no common sense
man or mouse time for hancock,he,s no,s he,s going to get burried by cummings/doris at the end of all this,he also no,s he,s going to get bombarded with the speechless,this is an instruction not advice line, so its his chance to take cummings down,which would be backed by plenty in tory party, but don't think he,s got the cohoona,s and will take yet another one for team doris/cummings,as doris / cummings no only to well, the useful idiots are the most important part of the team, ,
poor old handjob as i said at the time ,the SPEECHLESS quote wasnt even his line,kay burley said it for him,now he,s going to get bombarded with it
,poor old handjob as i said at the time ,the SPEECHLESS quote wasnt even his line,kay burley said it for him,now he,s going to get bombarded with it
dont worry the bbc are fully behind him this morning.
He aint going anywhere..he is the PM in all but name...Bojo is Sooty and Cummings is Harry Corbett.No Cummings = no Bojo.
Thought the pro-lockdown fanatics on here were anti-Cummings and his views on the lockdown.
Interesting to see how long they can keep Hanjob away from the lectern.
Both he and Borris will not be able to bat away questions. I am sure the others will be briefed to give short answers or ignore the questions or was it Raab who had to deal with the Ferguson question, I forget so maybe we will not see him either.
Both he and Borris will not be able to bat away questions. I am sure the others will be briefed to give short answers or ignore the questions or was it Raab who had to deal with the Ferguson question, I forget so maybe we will not see him either.
think guardian/mirror will give him till today,then sunday papers might have evidence of when doris knew about it all and publish it,cant see them not having something to follow up with
Let's be honest, this isn't massively surprising news. He may dress like a tramp but Cummings is very firmly one of the elite and the whole point of rules is that they apply to everyone but them. So at the first sign of bother, he's off to the castle in the north to rest up in the the east wing. No matter the risks of spreading it to the in laws or to anyone stopping at the same services, he had a special virus that meant it was ok.
havent read all the thread, but it seems he had corona symptoms, cant believe that like everyone else in govt that he didnt have the actual test
The dependent child excuse is not written in the rules. Jenny Harries mentioned it two weeks after Demonic Cummings phished off oop North
The problems of course holding youngsters to lockdown rules. Why should they?
And worse for Dorris this is now all about him and not Cummings
obviously worked out the parents is a bad look ,so now saying the sister,niece were going to look after their son
when your in a hole stop digging
they now seem to be saying they went 300 miles to get their kid looked after and looked after him themselves once getting there,just needed someone to do their shopping,
they now seem to be saying they went 300 miles to get their kid looked after and looked after him themselves once getting there,just needed someone to do their shopping,
why didn't the parents come to london to pick him up and take kid back up to durham ? or is that too obvious ?
What is the rule if you, for instance you are single mum in lockdown and you get the virus and have to go to hospital?
What happens to the kids? I remember a story in China where a disable child was just left when the parents were carted off. Child died.
What happens to the kids? I remember a story in China where a disable child was just left when the parents were carted off. Child died.
you phone friends,neighbors, volunteers or social services locally.that was the rule they put out.for everyone.apart from torys ministers and friends obviously
having travelled 300 miles feeling like shoite , self isolating in a house ,looking after a kid ,they decided on the way up in the car they could look after, it must have been devastating for cummings not to able to give his mum a hug on her birthday as she was in touching distance, ,
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Lets all go to the beach this weekend & feck the rules ... if its good enough for the elite to flout the rules why not everybody else
There is no excuse for Cummings & his actions are the very type of behaviour to spread the virus ... get rid asap
There is no excuse for Cummings & his actions are the very type of behaviour to spread the virus ... get rid asap
Michael gove tweets its not a crime,
I think you,ll find it is ,100,s been fined, some even been in court, wonder if mr gove is going to reimburse all those been fined,
no 10 saying police didn't speak to them,durham police say they did,
police or prime minister lying on the record
I think you,ll find it is ,100,s been fined, some even been in court, wonder if mr gove is going to reimburse all those been fined,
no 10 saying police didn't speak to them,durham police say they did,
police or prime minister lying on the record
Before answering the OP question, I shall consult the coronavirus advice.
1/ Are you a non tory? If so, please follow the government guidelines at all times. Stay alert!
2/ Are you a tory? If so, do not give a feck about anyone else, do what you want.
1/ Are you a non tory? If so, please follow the government guidelines at all times. Stay alert!
2/ Are you a tory? If so, do not give a feck about anyone else, do what you want.
Andrew bridgen actually said that live on tv, basically said use your common sense not hancocks instruction,s
no 10 now saying trip essential. no particular person quoted 
.
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At pretty much the exact same time, government rules stated that the family of a 13-year old boy who died from the virus couldn't even attend his funeral.
If only they'd been tories eh.
If only they'd been tories eh.
May 23, 2020 -- 11:28AM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
At pretty much the exact same time, government rules stated that the family of a 13-year old boy who died from the virus couldn't even attend his funeral.If only they'd been tories eh.
David Icke made a big thing of this fake news
Go where you like Dom, wind them up as much as you can. The media are out to get you & priti. Dont let the media run the state.
If i were Handjob I would be gagging to do the briefing today. If when asked he says Cummings SHOULD resign he becomes a national hero. If Bozo the Clown sacks him he'll be PM by the end of next week.
Always been unelected people running governments, are you saying the queen is a bully ?
lets hope the guardian/mail are letting the right wing mob blow themselves out today,and have a knockout punch to back todays story up tomorrow
I am fairly sure the queen doesn't consider herself as the one who makes government decisions.
is there an aron ramsey thing going on with tory,s and dancing to abba songs,
What end do you talk about spray, is this likely or are you talking crap ?
Sovereignty. Where unelected officials are unaccountable to the laws they themselves set and half the country doff their caps to them and offer to shine their shoes.
What a pathetic country we've become.
What a pathetic country we've become.
he,s doing such a brilliant job those on the left are more interested in him staying put ,than tory backbenches,
I thought even you would have been bright enough to get the reference Sonko.
dom raab says anyone trying to politicise this,should have a look in the mirror,
we have you daft kooooont ,that where we read about it,
we have you daft kooooont ,that where we read about it,
having read no 10,s statement basically in a nutshell what there saying is
no 10,downing street,the whole of the civil service,cummings London friends and family,neighbours ,couldn't manage to organise a weekly food shop for the cummings and put it on the door stop,
they had to travel 300 miles to find a common sense north easterner who could manage such a feat
bring on the good ship Brexit,
no 10,downing street,the whole of the civil service,cummings London friends and family,neighbours ,couldn't manage to organise a weekly food shop for the cummings and put it on the door stop,
they had to travel 300 miles to find a common sense north easterner who could manage such a feat
bring on the good ship Brexit
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Cumming's Uncle John Laws a retired judge died of Covid 19 on 5th April. Dom passed on the virus to him and killed him.
north east was 2 weeks behind London, very small outbtreaks ,till elitist loons ,knowingly infected like cummings and his mrs brought it up here with them at the height of R value, morally criminal if not legally criminal,no different to those arrested for coughing,spitting in peoples faces
The last 2 posts are just insane.
What is happening to people, is their another virus that is sending people mad ?
What is happening to people, is their another virus that is sending people mad ?
there was a clip on news this morning of boris stating you could under no circumstances visit your parents.
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you phone friends,neighbors, volunteers or social services locally.that was the rule they put out.for everyone.apart from torys ministers and friends obviously
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Show us the Act of Parliament that says this.
What nonsense.
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you phone friends,neighbors, volunteers or social services locally.that was the rule they put out.for everyone.apart from torys ministers and friends obviously
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Show us the Act of Parliament that says this.
What nonsense.
cummings tell reporters outside his house
as far as I,m concerned I did the right thing and am not bothered what you think,,
LOL fair play to him that's code for the gates are open do the fooook what you want,
as far as I,m concerned I did the right thing and am not bothered what you think,
,LOL fair play to him that's code for the gates are open do the fooook what you want,
What is the problem?
It is not like he built a model advising lockdown and then invited his married lover to travel across London to see him.
I never heard Cummings in the media advising the lockdown and telling people what to do.
Lockdown has cost so many lives and livelihoods and will continue to do so for years to come.
It is not like he built a model advising lockdown and then invited his married lover to travel across London to see him.
I never heard Cummings in the media advising the lockdown and telling people what to do.
Lockdown has cost so many lives and livelihoods and will continue to do so for years to come.
you know fine well its not an act of parliament.it was in the guidelines they gave out. it was brought up when penrick or whatever flouted the rules. if you want to condone it fair enough, its your right. my take on it is if everyone in the country did the same we would be in deep ****. when you tell your kids to do something for the right reason do you expect them to take the p1ss out of you?
YouGov on the case
It has been reported that in late March Dominic Cummings travelled from London to Durham to stay at a home on his parents' property while self-isolating with Coronavirus, in order to get help with childcare.
Do you think this did or did not break the lockdown rules?
Currently showing that 71% of the public believe that the rules were broken.
And do you think Dominic Cummings should or should not resign from his job as adviser to the Prime Minister?
Currently showing that 58% of the public believe that he should resign.
It has been reported that in late March Dominic Cummings travelled from London to Durham to stay at a home on his parents' property while self-isolating with Coronavirus, in order to get help with childcare.
Do you think this did or did not break the lockdown rules?
Currently showing that 71% of the public believe that the rules were broken.
And do you think Dominic Cummings should or should not resign from his job as adviser to the Prime Minister?
Currently showing that 58% of the public believe that he should resign.
YouGov... haha
YouGov on the day off referendem poll: Remain 52%, Leave 48%
Actual results Remain 48%, Leave 52%
YouGov on the day off referendem poll: Remain 52%, Leave 48%
Actual results Remain 48%, Leave 52%
Its marvelous watching the our owners scratching their own eyes out.
YouGov’s final pre-election polls in Battleground states: Trump still coming up short
Despite some gains, Trump is still short in key states
As the 2016 campaign comes to a close, YouGov’s final polls indicate that Donald Trump’s Presidential bid will fail in a set of must-win Battleground states, such as North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Colorado and Nevada. Trump has made gains in Florida, where he is now tied with Clinton, and Ohio, where he holds a narrow lead. However, to win the necessary 270 electoral votes for a majority, Trump will need to carry at least three of Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
YouGov polled ten states in the last four weeks. Some states were polled multiple times, so only the most recent survey is included in the table below. Seven of these ten surveys were conducted for CBS News and have been published previously. Additional surveys, conducted over the weekend in Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Utah, are reported for the first time here.
Trump leads in four states. Trump holds comfortable margins in both Georgia and Utah. In Georgia, Trump has a six point margin, based upon overwhelmingly support among white voters in the state. Trump leads independent candidate Evan McMullin by 16 points, with Hillary Clinton in third place.
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https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/11/07/yougov-final-polls-battleground-states
Trump won easily.
Despite some gains, Trump is still short in key states
As the 2016 campaign comes to a close, YouGov’s final polls indicate that Donald Trump’s Presidential bid will fail in a set of must-win Battleground states, such as North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Colorado and Nevada. Trump has made gains in Florida, where he is now tied with Clinton, and Ohio, where he holds a narrow lead. However, to win the necessary 270 electoral votes for a majority, Trump will need to carry at least three of Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
YouGov polled ten states in the last four weeks. Some states were polled multiple times, so only the most recent survey is included in the table below. Seven of these ten surveys were conducted for CBS News and have been published previously. Additional surveys, conducted over the weekend in Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Utah, are reported for the first time here.
Trump leads in four states. Trump holds comfortable margins in both Georgia and Utah. In Georgia, Trump has a six point margin, based upon overwhelmingly support among white voters in the state. Trump leads independent candidate Evan McMullin by 16 points, with Hillary Clinton in third place.
Three states are nearly toss-ups. Trump has a one point lead in Ohio, Florida is tied, and Clinton has a two-point advantage in Pennsylvania (down from an 8 point lead in our most recent CBS Battleground poll conducted October 26-28). Clinton was ahead of Trump by three points in North Carolina in our poll last week for CBS. If Trump could win all four of these states, he would have a good chance of winning the election, but Clinton can lose three of these four and still have a good chance of accumulating the 270 electoral vote needed for victory.
Some of these states also have important Senate races. If Clinton wins the Presidency, Democrats need a pickup of four seats to control the Senate. Republican held seats in Pennsylvania and North Carolina are toss-ups, as is Nevada (currently held by retiring Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid).
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/11/07/yougov-final-polls-battleground-states
Trump won easily.
this could actually get really ,really funny,if pressure grows to much,or there,s more to come in tomorrows papers, we could have a situation where cummins goes for something the health sec.,foreign sec,duchy of Lancaster,chan of ex and doris official spokesmen have told 70 million people todays its ok to do, ,
a bloke resigning over something 70 million of us have been told its perfectly ok to do
,a bloke resigning over something 70 million of us have been told its perfectly ok to do
I think the concern for Tory supporters is they don't want the puppet master's strings cut that hold up the great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellyman.
Protecting one’s family is what any good parent does. The
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bravermen already getting battered on social media for her good parent remark,from parents who looked after their kids whilst ill, she,ll probably go before cummings,she was already in the news today for seeking a high profile position in her peado sect
We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.
Have you thought of applying for a job on Private Eye Sonko ?
You have a great satirical gift imo.
You have a great satirical gift imo.
May 23, 2020 -- 3:52PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:
We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.
You must be almost the only person in the UK that thinks that.
You are lying to yourself or not being honest if you would not do the same thing in the same position.
would all do the same
The overwhelming majority of the population didn't do the same, they abided by the governments guidance. This is a textbook case of virtue signalling something this forum abhors.
The overwhelming majority of the population didn't do the same, they abided by the governments guidance. This is a textbook case of virtue signalling something this forum abhors.
I am surprised the shocking Coronavirus spreading behaviour of the press outside his house hasn't received more attention. No social distancing at all and hardly essential journeys to take a couple of photos
I made the mistake earlier in using the word "thinks" regarding sonko. Apologies to all other forum members.
The rules dont apply to the press/activists.
By that logic you have to say the same about Cummings, unless of course you wish to be disingenuous.
By that logic you have to say the same about Cummings, unless of course you wish to be disingenuous.
essential workers as designated by let me think,argh cummings
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May 23, 2020 -- 2:52PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:
We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.
You must be almost the only person in the UK that thinks that.
^
PP defended the Scottish CMO when she went on a jolly to her holiday home.
Some people who lost money because of Boris taking power seem to think protecting your family is the same thing as inviting a mistress over or going on holiday.
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May 23, 2020 -- 2:52PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:
We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.
You must be almost the only person in the UK that thinks that.
^
PP defended the Scottish CMO when she went on a jolly to her holiday home.
Some people who lost money because of Boris taking power seem to think protecting your family is the same thing as inviting a mistress over or going on holiday.
Funny the bedwetters are not calling for Neil Ferguson to removed from his job ?
Double standards, no the left dont have any standards.
Double standards, no the left dont have any standards.
Cummings should be fired for his appearance alone. Scruffy ‘erbert.
the story is BS - they just didn't like the idea of isolating in London and went to a nice farm in the country instead
Funny the bedwetters are not calling for Neil Ferguson to removed from his job ?
I believe this is a thread on Dominic Cummings not Neil Ferguson. Please, by all means start a thread on Ferguson and revel in your 'virtue signalling' finger pointing. It'll save us all a lot of time - we can just copy and past post and replace Ferguson with Cummings.
I like to plant lettuce to catch rabbits didn't you know?
I believe this is a thread on Dominic Cummings not Neil Ferguson. Please, by all means start a thread on Ferguson and revel in your 'virtue signalling' finger pointing. It'll save us all a lot of time - we can just copy and past post and replace Ferguson with Cummings.
I like to plant lettuce to catch rabbits didn't you know?
May 23, 2020 -- 4:04PM, InsiderTrader wrote:
politicspunter23 May 20 14:56Joined: 20 Mar 18| Topic/replies: 14,663 | Blogger: politicspunter's blog May 23, 2020 -- 2:52PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote: We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.You must be almost the only person in the UK that thinks that.^PP defended the Scottish CMO when she went on a jolly to her holiday home.Some people who lost money because of Boris taking power seem to think protecting your family is the same thing as inviting a mistress over or going on holiday.
Interesting line from IT here.
Of course, when the forum was discussing Ferguson breaking the lockdown a couple of weeks ago, his attitude was slightly different.
Even before he inspired the lockdown someone leaving a house where someone was thought to have the virus was unacceptable.
In fact, that was his view.
Leaving the house where some may have the virus was unacceptable back then. Of course now that it's his favourite unelected establishment figure it's "What is the problem?"
No wonder this country's going to the dogs so quickly.
May 23, 2020 -- 6:24PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
May 23, 2020 -- 3:04PM, InsiderTrader wrote:politicspunter23 May 20 14:56Joined: 20 Mar 18| Topic/replies: 14,663 | Blogger: politicspunter's blog May 23, 2020 -- 2:52PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote: We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.You must be almost the only person in the UK that thinks that.^PP defended the Scottish CMO when she went on a jolly to her holiday home.Some people who lost money because of Boris taking power seem to think protecting your family is the same thing as inviting a mistress over or going on holiday.Interesting line from IT here.Of course, when the forum was discussing Ferguson breaking the lockdown a couple of weeks ago, his attitude was slightly different.Even before he inspired the lockdown someone leaving a house where someone was thought to have the virus was unacceptable.In fact, that was his view.Leaving the house where some may have the virus was unacceptable back then. Of course now that it's his favourite unelected establishment figure it's "What is the problem?"No wonder this country's going to the dogs so quickly.
Lol, I blocked Insider Trader ages ago because he was unhealthily obsessed with trolling my every post. I see nothing has changed. I won money on the next Conservative leader market, when Boris won.
Oh, and Insider Trader, just so you know, I won plenty in the general election. Will you please stop trolling my every post now, even after I have blocked you?
Mrs Cummings' heartbreaking tail of poor Dom's terrible illness makes no mention of the fact that it all took place at the other end of the country from their home.
.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/23/dominic-cummings-broke-the-lockdown-good/
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/23/dominic-cummings-broke-the-lockdown-good/
i voted brexit, and for boris , but im sorry forgetting actual politics, but this lot are incompetent, just imagine if this crisis was handled same way by corbyn
Not sure their is a right or wrong way to handle an unpredictable event as this, any other leaders would had used the same scientific advice.
They may well be a useless government but its easy after the event to be wiser.
They may well be a useless government but its easy after the event to be wiser.
WHAT? He did it AGAIN?
...AFTER he recovered?
If true, & Observer is running same story, every excuse put up for Cummings today by No10 & grovelling cabinet ministers just went up in smoke.
Over to you, Prime Minister
@BorisJohnson
.
Any more lies you want to try?
piers morgan twitter tonight
...AFTER he recovered?
If true, & Observer is running same story, every excuse put up for Cummings today by No10 & grovelling cabinet ministers just went up in smoke.
Over to you, Prime Minister
@BorisJohnson
.
Any more lies you want to try?
piers morgan twitter tonight
They may well be a useless government but its easy after the event to be wiser.
Very low IQ poster
Very low IQ poster
we wernt after the event we were last to be hit in Europe,townships in sowetto performed better than us
May 23, 2020 -- 7:57PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:
.https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/23/dominic-cummings-broke-the-lockdown-good/
wasn't Brendan, who comes up with the most predictable **** time and again, seething at the scientist going out just weeks ago
Did you not think that link was pretty accurate & please answer with your opinion. ?
Who is brendan btw ?
Who is brendan btw ?
May 23, 2020 -- 10:04PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:
Did you not think that link was pretty accurate & please answer with your opinion. ?Who is brendan btw ?
no, not everything is about Brexit and weirdos on both sides need to learn
he's the weirdo who has contrarian opinions about everything and you can predict 90% of his columns every week based on what weird stuff happened on Twitter
normies who don't know or don't care who Cummings is will be mad at this and that includes a lot of people who voted Brexit
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