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"What makes it worse is the NE and Scotland are 3 weeks behind London"
Being "Behind" is surely not really a thing surely ONCE you have a lockdown for a time, that's just a Sturgeon excuse. Yes without lockdown curves tend to follow the same trajectory so they can be "behind" each other, there is totally a "behind", you would be right. But once a lockdown is imposed (remember this is now > 8 weeks), you'll have a few days lag period before it takes affect but then the curves flatten. The peak was way back in April. Being behind at the point a lockdown is imposed is actually an advantage not a disadvantage as you start from a lower base point. New Zealand is "behind" us for example. See what I mean? Think about it. The virus has no knowledge of what has happened before only what is happening now. It's not in a worse situation. |
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Most deaths in Europe(after being warned by Italy and Spain)great work JC..your chest must swell with pride...sorry if I didn't realise it is all Sturgeon's fault...you are lucky to have that lovely Cummings guy pulling your wonderful leader's strings.
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^^^
Nerve not so much touched as inflamed. |
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Yes JC well done I'm trembling and shaking with pure rage..doubt I'll be able to calm down for several days at least.
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Yes Sofia, given responsibility for health, social care, care homes scandals, lockdown timing and policy and law, PPE stockpiling, ventilator stockpiling, testing, not covering up outbreaks (and more.. ) are all entirely SNP policy and under their control, you are right, the figures in Scotland, a relatively sparsely populated country that has nothing at all REMOTELY like the density of London and has a much lower % non white population who have proven to be far more suspectible to Corona. These are Sturgeon's responsiblity. Your chest must be swelling with pride at Sturgeon's performance.
Have you ever been on a packed London tube? But she can shake her head and say she's not an English Tory, so I'm sure she won't lose any support from the SNP faithful, that's all that matters. |
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I mean with all the above advantages ... AND the huge advantage of not being an English Tory, why are the Scottish figures comparable / worse than England?
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Has she changed the camera angle now to hide the stay at home message
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Seeing the Crisis in England , Why did Important Jimmy not order the Care homes to be ring fenced and immediate testing ?? She had at least a Months warning of the care home situation . and knows quite well how the virus is moving hence not following on to the be alert stage ........
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case..just like england we did not have the capacity at that time..we are honest up here pal..unlike bojo/hancock/raab.
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Yes dreadful figures 2200 Dead out of 5 million
 Important Jimmy will also have questions to answer ... |
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Very strange in that case why snp keep asking questions in parliament about why track and trace was abandoned in March. Answers on a postcard.
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The Inquiry into the Care Homes needs to be into Who is running them , and Why , because it looks like they would have trouble running a bath..
We have a Flu Like pandemic that would cause problems for the Elderly ,What could possibly go wrong in these homes ,surely they would have some sort of emergency planning / IF NOT WHY NOT , the people running these places have no problems putting their hands in the till , but when it comes to the pocket there appears to be a reluctance .. |
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Hilarious how they changed the camera angle though, Scotland must be proud.
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Lots of people are passionate about care homes, not so much paying for them.
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MONEY BOXES Cider ,Also plenty of Charities involved would be the clue ..
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Meanwhile they let the Carers and staff wander round with no PPE , in a pandemic
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bbc was fine for me.
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It was blatant haha. Safety before politics
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As I say, the bbc was fine for me. What tv station did you watch it on?
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Sp PP is saying the Bods in charge of the Care Homes rake in billions but someone else has to look after the Basic health and safety
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In the sky clip she's looking at the camera. She's not looking at another camera for the bbc at the same time. That feigning ignorance is catching on
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As I say, the bbc where I watched it was fine.
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Which was broadcast at a different angle to all the other past Sottish briefings. Where the big screen was not visible, whereas it was in all the past Scottish briefings.
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I thought you said you never watch the bbc...
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So Sturgeon is to blame as much as Boris, is that the conclusion of the forum?
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Btw, if you thought the guest in your opening post was just any lady, you clearly have zero knowledge of politics, particularly Scottish politics.
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Was she factually incorrect. If so I apologise profusely.
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If you didn't know who she was, no need to apologise.
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layingisthewayforward stick to your guns. Facts are facts, using an ad hominem attempt to shoot the messenger and deflect is classic SNP. PP pretends not to be an SNP supporter but he fools nobody. Until he cites solid facts from reputable source that take away from the FACTS you posted (and they are facts) then apologise for squat.
The care home situation in Scotland is worse than England = Yes. Far Worse. No argument. https://www.carehomeprofessional.com/european-survey-reveals-england-has-lowest-rate-of-covid-19-care-home-deaths/ "The research, using ONS data as of May 9, shows there were almost 7,000 COVID-19 care home fatalities in England, amounting to 21% of 33,000 fatalities. Wales reported a higher rate of 25%, while care home COVID-19 death rates in Scotland amounted to 45% of 3,200 COVID-19 fatalities as of May 10." They're doing less testing than England = Yes, per capita. By a huge margin. No argument. The R number is currently higher in Scotland = Yes, apparently it is. Harder to track as they are cagey about it but it's Sturgeon's own argument for extending lockdown so .. Read say this. It cites original sources. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-snp-s-media-war-conceals-their-covid-failures |
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I retract my apology then!
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lapsy pa
Maybe the numbers in Scotland are more transparent? Nearly choked on my coffee when I read that. Here were two questions asked in Holyrood last week and the 'answers'. QUESTION 1 How many OAPs were moved from Hospitals to care homes without testing to make room for possible covid19 victims (Not sure of the period. ANSWER From Jean Freeman- Less than 300. She later issued an apology when the real figure of nearly 1000 was revealed. QUESTION 2 How many people were traced in the Edinburgh Niki outbreak. Sturgeon had said earlier that rigorous tracing had been carried out but two companies who had shared the facilities with Niki staff including one from Lloyds banking group had come forward to say none of their staff had been traced. . ANSWER 2 We don't have the numbers. The outbreak had been kept secret from the public because of patient confidentiality reasons according to Sturgeon. Yes very transparent. |
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Not surprised at Sturgeon does so well in these polls. Scottish nationalists , as can be seen from politicspunter (who despite the denials lives in Scotland and supports the cult that is the snp) and sofiakenny replies on here, are so focused on independence they are not bothered by facts.
Scotlands figures are as shown in the opening post. Difficult time and I'm sure that mistakes have been made but It always baffles me to see nationalists like pp and keny along with angoose attacking Boris when Scottish figures are similar in some respects but much worse than others. BTW Scotlands R number is in the exact same range as it was 2 weeks ago so surprised at the decision to ease lockdown rules. maybe not as wee Nickis strategy appears to be to wait toi see what Boris is doing then do something different. |
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Sounds like the situation in Scotland is worse than I feared. Sturgeon to be charged with mass murder when all this is over?
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Sturgeon certainly seems to have the media on her side...
An internal investigation has been launched after STV circulated a video of children praising Nicola Sturgeon for “keeping them safe” during the coronavirus pandemic. The independent broadcaster posted the series of clips on Twitter yesterday before swiftly removing it after complaints and comparisons to coverage from totalitarian countries such as North Korea. The video features young boys and girls lauding the first minister for her handling of the Covid-19 crisis. Apparently reading from a script, they say: “The children of Scotland would like to say thank you to Nicola, our first minister. We are so grateful. Thank you for always keeping us safe, working so hard, being strong for us.” Ian Murray, the Labour MP for Edinburgh South, tweeted: “Scotland has 5th worst death rate in Europe, double rate of care home deaths than rUK, one of the worst testing rates in world, contact tracing strategy in tatters, Nike ‘ground zero’ cover-up. How about the broadcast media do their job and scrutinise. Cute kids but this is wrong.” |