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Knives out for Boris
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I probaby am Dotchinite(more relaxed),whether lockdown or not,the economy was bolloxed over this anyway,the difference is that more lives have been saved and more people not ending up half fc ked like Boris.
Anyway just a difference of opinion between us, i respect yours. |
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As I do yours lapsy and we will both need the benefit of hindsight to see if it has saved lives. Im worried that once we add in all the deaths that are going to be caused by economics recession and a health service that isnt treating other serious conditions we will end up with the worst of all results.
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Just for arguments sake say there wasn't a lockdown,tubes/trains,sport,concerts all continued as was the norm,how long before peoples twigged something wasn't right?
An easy question as they twigged things weren't right prob from the start of March,it did stagger on for awhile though schools, etc took it on themselves to shut down. The rest might have continued though gradually slowing throughout April,however the deaths couldn't have been hidden, X times more,your guess as good as mine, What we had was a fairly lax lockdown,it is working albeit slowly,almost capable of returning to some form of yesterdays norm though it might be a few weeks off that. That has worked for other countries and will work for the UK which is behind. There was a recession coming over this whatever way,all because of social distancing, people weremore afraid of covid than other things and avoided hospitals due to it,understandable but that is a direct result of covid. |
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The virus was the excuse to crash everything
They can blame it on cancer deaths and other deaths as well, and they can use the old fashioned blame game and sack half the cabinet etc No one will know the truth for about 10 years as is always the case, let it slide for half a generation before finally giving the truth, by then our lot wont care one iota and the kids growing up will have forgotten about it by then as well... winner winner chicken dinner |
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lapsy pa
20 May 20 12:03 Joined: 29 Jan 09 | Topic/replies: 3,906 | Blogger: lapsy pa's blog Many,many lives have been saved by locking down young people,they in turn haven't infected older people,hth. ^ Rubbish. Almost half care homes been infected regardless of lockdown. Older and vulnerable people in their own homes can choose to isolate. Locking up fit/young people has not saved any lives. |
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Rubbish^ So you are saying no young people won't have infected anyone older and or anyone young that was vulnerable?
Indeed,you are facking lethal,you would have everyone killed. |
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Not if the old/vulnerable people were protected. Why would they? How does it happen if the old/vulnerable are isolated.
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Ive no doubt that younger people would have infected older people had the older ones not managed to isolate but the brutal reality is you cannot lock up people indefinitely just to stop them possibly infecting others with an illness.
If you could have guaranteed one lockdown of a month or 6 weeks would solve the issue then it may have been justifiable but thats not the case. You cant keep locking people up every time theres an outbreak so sooner or later the only solution is for the old/sick to protect themselves. Given the economic damage lockdown has caused it makes sense to accept that sooner rather than later. |
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So you are saying protect every one say over 30 40, 50? How would the nhs in particular work like that and also the over 50 essential workers?
Maybe you can volunteer to be a bus driver,work in a hospital? Why isn't your wife self isolating on her own and leaving you get on with keeping the economy going,you can move out and roll your sleeves up? You want jam on it,keep the economy going but let the plebs do it,same as schooling, note the "toff" schools not opening,typical. |
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Id have thought you let people above 60 or ones with genuine health conditions (not Obesity) choose if they want to be locked down and then give them the assistance they need. I dont think most even in their 50s like me have anything to worry about.
Of course I could be wrong and if I am my gravestone will say "he said it was only a cold". |
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lapsy pa
20 May 20 17:18 Joined: 29 Jan 09 | Topic/replies: 3,908 | Blogger: lapsy pa's blog So you are saying protect every one say over 30 40, 50? How would the nhs in particular work like that and also the over 50 essential workers? Maybe you can volunteer to be a bus driver,work in a hospital? Why isn't your wife self isolating on her own and leaving you get on with keeping the economy going,you can move out and roll your sleeves up? You want jam on it,keep the economy going but let the plebs do it,same as schooling, note the "toff" schools not opening,typical. ^ Have had to work from home for last decade since my wife got sick. I cannot leave her to feed for herself as she need care. I work from home as always have done and earn money and pay my taxes as before. Not sure quite what your point is. |
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My point is you are trying to push everyone back to work to keep the economy going but you aren't leaving the house yourself.
If the goverment like other European goverments gave out ppe at transport hubs and even workplaces subsidised (if it was available) it would be a lot cheaper "out", make confidence,and better money spent on a lot of what they have done t0 now. |
