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duffy
19 May 20 15:36
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As we get back to normal with more people getting out and about, if you accept that we haven't got anywhere near enough people that have had it to allow for herd immunity to help out, unless social distancing is strictly adhered to which is highly unlikely, if we accept that the virus behaves in the exact same virus as it was 2 months ago, what fundamentally would have changed to stop the infections spiralling out of control once again.
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Report i_agree_with_nick May 19, 2020 3:42 PM BST
The answer would be testing, tracking and tracing.

Also, use of public transport is still very low.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 19, 2020 3:42 PM BST
We live with flu that kills 10,000 or so each year.

We need to continue to be wary, but not give in.

Don't let it get out of control again.
Report duffy May 19, 2020 3:50 PM BST
I don't think testing tracking and tracing will work in this country, we are not South Korea who will do as they are told without question, Here not enough people will download the app and those who do will be faced with a question when they get the notification that they were in close proximity to someone who has the virus. They will be faced with contacting work saying they won't be in for 2 weeks and then have the question about wages...many will ignore the notifications IMO, so I don't think it will fundamentally be a game changer.
Report i_agree_with_nick May 19, 2020 3:50 PM BST
Oh, I forgot isolation.

If only someone could come up with an acronym, bearing in mind we can't use ITT as it might infringe copyright regulations.
Report i_agree_with_nick May 19, 2020 3:54 PM BST
Yes, I think I agree with you, duffy.

I do think some of the things we're doing now will continue such as less use of public transport and homeworking.
Report Angoose May 19, 2020 3:59 PM BST
Contact tracing is nothing new, whereas an app to assist with contact tracing is a relatively new tool.
With or without an app, contact tracing can only be successful with the cooperation of the public and that's where the human touch of contact tracers kicks in.
Report blank May 19, 2020 4:13 PM BST
All track and trace does is bring down the threshold for lockdown, from when hospitals can't cope to when track and trace can't cope. South Korea have schools and bars shut, China are shutting cities, Hong Kong have schools shut. If these places can't manage track and trace without these closures it doesn't bode well for us. Let's hope the summer weather plays a part and slows down infections.
Report Angoose May 19, 2020 4:22 PM BST
The track element of the governments test, track, and trace programme is a large scale testing study.

Participants in the study will provide swabs on a regular basis to ascertain if they are currently infected.
It is planned to expand the study to also take blood samples to ascertain what percentage of the population have developed antibodies.
Report lurka May 19, 2020 4:31 PM BST
(Big) IF all these Nightingales are fully stocked and staffed, capacity will be much greater. That + track and trace and possibly restrictions being reintroduced in outbreak areas only.
Report 1st time poster May 19, 2020 4:34 PM BST
all the same rules apply ,with knobs on after economy crash,low pay,no sick pay,if most people can work through symptom,s who,s going to own up for a minimum of 14 day quarantine,or getting your place of work closed down
Report blank May 19, 2020 4:41 PM BST
The German regions are going to start restrictions if they get over 50 new cases per 100k people in a week. A more transparent and measurable approach than R going above 1. London under that scenario would be allowed 4,500 new cases, it's currently on 24 a day, under the R measure they would seemingly be starting restrictions if it went to 25 a day.
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