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By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 19 May 20 17:40
This presentation today might be the worst of the lot, outstripping Priti.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 May 20 17:40
Eustice tbf isn't doing bad,he did say it is the long haul though plugging brexit.
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 May 20 17:40
icu,s are empty
after an 7 week lockdown and 65,000 deaths one would jolly well hope so
By:
eyeball
When: 19 May 20 17:42
Shows how easy it is to control a population . Believe nothing these ****z say . Do your own research and form your own opinion . I hate them .
By:
stridingedge
When: 19 May 20 17:42
Big tension there from Maclean in some of them answers!
By:
Des Pond
When: 19 May 20 17:43
Do they really think we are 2 weeks behind Spain and Italy? Both of which had fewer than 200 deaths 2 weeks ago! We are atleast 4 weeks behind if not Five.
By:
elisjohn
When: 19 May 20 17:43
at least they did have some tougher ?
By:
peckerdunne
When: 19 May 20 17:43
Well that was highly revealing if not in the least educational.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 19 May 20 17:47
Down to level 3,get back to work scum your billionaire masters requirements and your plebs into school now no PPE and level 3 who knew?
By:
Cider
When: 19 May 20 17:54

May 19, 2020 -- 5:35PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:


50,000 have diedThat science expert is clearly rattled with good reason its a dogs breakfast


Would be difficult not to get irritated by thick, obtuse, (likely both) journalists asking a question that has already been asked and answered dozens of times, seeking the approval of their handful of fellow twatter subscribing numpty followers.

By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 May 20 17:56
Still level 4

"The virus is not contained with the r number above 1 in at least some areas,hospitals will be able to cope with the admissions"
By:
thegiggilo
When: 19 May 20 18:07
Chris Giles
@ChrisGiles_

Update: following today's data from hospitals and ONS data, a cautious estimate of the number of UK excess deaths during the coronavirus pandemic to 19 May is

61,900

Of these 54,522 have occurred, the rest are estimates
·
2h
Replying to
@ChrisGiles_
Today's data from
@ONS
showed a big fall in excess deaths, but there were only 88 registrations on VE day (8 May), so was an undercount.

@NickStripe_ONS
estimates the figure was roughly 2,500 lower than a full week would have shown.

2/
Chris Giles
@ChrisGiles_
·
2h
The distortions caused by VE day make estimates more difficult than normal.

If you take the data at face value, the model gives v strange results, suggesting fewer excess deaths between 5 May and today than those testing positive in daily official data.

3/
Chris Giles
@ChrisGiles_
·
2h
Alternatively, if you look at the proportion of non hospital deaths and project on that basis, the estimates would be too high.

So I have taken a mid point. It's not ideal. But these decisions have to be taken, not ducked, and need to be done transparently.


Chris Giles
@ChrisGiles_
·

The truth is that this week's ONS data showing 55,000 excess deaths during the pandemic is likely to be an underestimate of the situation.

Next week, the figures (with 6 days not 5) they are likely to show higher deaths. That will also be a distorted figure
By:
Baphornet
When: 19 May 20 18:15
good to see the boffins panicking

By:
Des Pond
When: 19 May 20 18:30
Why did the Govt put forward such an optimistic outlook for the Oxford vaccine trial on Sunday, when there seems to be evidence that it wasn't working?
By:
Des Pond
When: 19 May 20 18:35
I know the short answer is money, but why try to deceive the Public in such a blatant way?
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 May 20 18:43
Correct Des, he ramped hope up for that,maybe he has been misinformed? Though to be answering questions to the nation you would like to think his assertions then aren't shot down in a few hours.

With you there Eyeball.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 May 20 18:46
Sunaks saying "there is no guarantee of a quick economic bounceback" is another beaut today.
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 May 20 18:51
right wing media led by torygraph buying in to any glimmer of light,same day sharma at daily briefing said there might never be a vaccine
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 May 20 18:53
same today daily mail/torygraph at 3,0 clock saying lowest deaths since lockdown 675 down in a week,5.30 after deaths in all settings were released same papers changed the 67 to 13% fall
By:
Baphornet
When: 19 May 20 18:55
the government is on a pre-warning mission this week

boffins - watch out for buses!
vaccine - forget it!
Jennie - no hotpants
recession - massive & long term
By:
lapsy pa
When: 19 May 20 18:56
People would be lost only for The Guardian 1sttp.
By:
Des Pond
When: 19 May 20 19:00
On a side note, another thing I find strange is this sudden adopting of anosmia as a sympton of Covid. I mean, we have known for several weeks that loss of sense of smell and taste are prominent signs that a person could have the virus. Yesterday, I wasn't watching that closely, but I'm sure that i heard a consultant surgeon say that he carried on working for days after experiencing loss of taste and smell. Supposedly unaware that those symptoms indicated that he should've self-isolated. How could an eminent medical professional not know what most of us were well aware of?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 May 20 19:13
They are being led by the science, and Cummings is telling the scientists what to tell him

Never more striking than today.



Johnson up against Starmer tomorrow

Spoilt for choice of questions, Johnson on the vallium tonite?
By:
GoBallistic
When: 19 May 20 19:55
If you have loss of taste/smell, chances are you have a cold

So all you need now to get a covid test is have the sniffles and be over 5 years old

Coincidentally they need to test lots of people on 31st May to meet another self-imposed, meaningless target
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 May 20 19:58
Loss of taste/smell could be because of pollen count being high as well

Blocked nostrils are a big thing at this time of year, and of course if you have something up the nose chances are its going to become inflamed and run like a tap ffs

They are changing what a cold is, they are changing what pollen allergy's are
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 May 20 20:04

May 19, 2020 -- 7:00PM, Des Pond wrote:


On a side note, another thing I find strange is this sudden adopting of anosmia as a sympton of Covid. I mean, we have known for several weeks that loss of sense of smell and taste are prominent signs that a person could have the virus. Yesterday, I wasn't watching that closely, but I'm sure that i heard a consultant surgeon say that he carried on working for days after experiencing loss of taste and smell. Supposedly unaware that those symptoms indicated that he should've self-isolated. How could an eminent medical professional not know what most of us were well aware of?


They put it out there to get it known and then use it further down the line once more and more start experiencing that very loss of smell and/or taste

They waited for the pollen season to properly kick in and then added it, now anyone who loses sense of smell/taste right before dying on their death beds will be getting "covid" added to the death certificate Crazy

They are bumping the figures

By:
Mexico
When: 19 May 20 20:09
Good point about loss of smell being Hayfever rather than Covid19


What UK needs is some type of test where people with symptoms can book a test and find out if they have an annoying but harmless pollen allergy or are infected by a dangerous virus.


Wonder if anybody in government or any scientists have considered rolling out this type of test Sont? Could be a really useful.
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 May 20 20:59
LOL, gawd love,m everyone one remember over the years people with cold,s,hay fever, drinking glasses of vinegar to prove they,d lost the sensation of taste,smell,go on we ,ve all don't it,, LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh, NOT
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 May 20 21:06
When they say loss of smell they mean they can't smell out of one nostril ffs, proper hypochondriacs ffs

Peanut butter is the best thing, if you can't smell the contents of that you've got no sense of smell confirmed
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 May 20 21:07
Blocked nose doesn't mean loss of smell, you can still smell to some degree
By:
Mexico
When: 19 May 20 21:11
Also Sont

Testing positive for Covid 19 doesn't necessarily mean loss of smell. It is just one possible symptom.

If anybody feels they may have been infected they can arrange for a test. Or do you think peanut butter is a better indication of knowing if have contracted the virus.
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 May 20 21:11
call me picky but there,s 3 people in the world I don't take corona advice from and there
doris
trump and
straty LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Baphornet
When: 19 May 20 22:09
Charley Van-Tam is a truly shockking omishunn from 1st TP
By:
GoBallistic
When: 19 May 20 22:10
Within 10 days I predict the list of symptoms of Covid-19 will be updated to include "No symptoms at all" since there are undoubtedly a large proportion of covid cases who present with "No symptoms at all" and it's important that these people go get tested to confirm that they are indeed positive
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 May 20 22:19
No symptoms at all is quite good

Anyone who dies is covid, run over by a car? well the car got sneezed on and tested positive for covid
By:
Baphornet
When: 19 May 20 22:50
the blame game is about to play out
By:
The Leopard
When: 19 May 20 22:57
It's not a game.....the people responsible for causing thousands of extra deaths will be brought to account !
By:
Baphornet
When: 19 May 20 23:09
are you addressing me pûssy?
By:
The Leopard
When: 19 May 20 23:54
^ someone tell Flappy he/she/they/squiggle troll  is  blocked ....can't read it !
By:
Baphornet
When: 19 May 20 23:58
funny that; seeing as you posted this in response to my post.

The Leopard19 May 20 21:57Joined: 05 Apr 06 | Topic/replies: 45,154 | Blogger: The Leopard's blog

It's not a game.....the people responsible for causing thousands of extra deaths will be brought to account !
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