Chit Chat
Algorithmic accounts are used on social medias to push agendas/news messages and don't engage in open chat with other users.
On a forum such as Betfair we are engaging with independent thought so human paid influencers are needed.
In this instance their job is not to openly push a particular agenda but to stifle and shut down any opposing factual views their employers dictate,this will include abusing a community member with an opposing viewpoint creating a divide no matter of the validity that viewpoint and ensuring these views are removed or the community member is removed either directly or indirectly through provocation reaction.
The hours will often be long and you'd be tied to a forum almost indefinitely so not good for a family person this would have to be taken into consideration should you contemplate taking up such a role even if it isn't 'real work' in an accepted working sense.
I'd expect the hourly rate to be low so likely a flat monthly rate but how much? would you need multiple community accounts to make it pay? would you be able to work for multiple sites closing down the same channels of discussion?
Can any forum members shed some light as it could be a tidy sideline for someone who already spends large portions of their spare time posting on forums.
chat on a gambling forum
I agree to a certain extent in the case of this site the influencers operate on Politics and Chit Chat due to the subject matter.
I agree it is strange that there are members of a gambling community forum that don't gamble.
May 15, 2020 -- 6:46PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:
I think folk spend their lives getting folk banned and posts removedOne of them is a hero of the forumWork that one out
Yep, and hasn't been heard of for a month or so.
It's almost as if the trolls don't want any gambling related
chat on a gambling forum
I agree which is why I find it strange that there are members of a gambling community forum that don't gamble.
Why not comment on why folk getting folk banned are heroes
Given your position on this thread
It's a conundrum, innit
May 15, 2020 -- 6:58PM, politicspunter wrote:
May 15, 2020 -- 5:46PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:I think folk spend their lives getting folk banned and posts removedOne of them is a hero of the forumWork that one outYep, and hasn't been heard of for a month or so.
Who is this?
Presumably it will be an emerging crypto currency like bitcoin
I'm taking for granted some kind of exchange to $ or £
May 15, 2020 -- 7:37PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:
More why is he a hero when he is spending all day doing what you seem to despise
That is your opinion donny you don't know,it's already established the poster has been unwell and hasn't been posting what am I missing?
It seems therefore you want freedom of speech for those you agree with
And turn a blind eye, or two, to those shutting down freedom of speech if they
post stuff you agree with
Quite an informative thread all in all.
It's a massive tourist destination I know people who've been can you see a problem there donny?
on the other hand, i distinctly remember crippen, whilst encouraging the youtube nazis, saying he didnt report posters on betfair as much as he use to because betfair didnt take down as many posts as he hoped they would.
Either you want free speech and are against folk reporting postd
Or you hero worship a person getting posts removed
I suppose in your world you can have both
May 15, 2020 -- 10:05PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:
Denzil you are arguing with your own post on the same threadEither you want free speech and are against folk reporting postdOr you hero worship a person getting posts removedI suppose in your world you can have both
Not at all donny
Read my 9:13pm and 9:19pm posts
I can't validate your opinions about another poster that I have nothing to do with
I also say personally abusive and threatening posts would add offensive to the point of illegal to that list too.
You are telling me opinions about another poster that doesn't involve me,I can only speak about other posters from my experiences.
He stated he did it, spent 90 mins on phone to customer services
He posted shortly after his ban
You can twist it anyway you want but you are arguing with yourself
I've missed alot of time on here I told you I can only speak about other posters from my experiences.
May 15, 2020 -- 11:06PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:
I'm serious you must still be paranoid bonnie lad
Lol Denzil, you opened this thread and are now suggesting others are paranoid?
They continually embarrass themselves with their musings and misguided beliefs thus proving the very extreme power of propaganda and the effect it can have on people.
Just look at where we are right now ? Crazy world.
But as i said a very good thread
https://www.ukcolumn.org/live
May 20, 2020 -- 2:22PM, John.W.Henry. wrote:
@Denzil. With ref to your original post... i would recommend you take a look at todays edition of UKColumn https://www.ukcolumn.org/live
Watched,thank fck there's people breaking it down with schematics etc.
Hadn't heard of nearly all of that programme,the tie in you refer to is dark imo why should any part of the military be involved in domestic surveillance is beyond me.
The issue on who's appointing these branches like 77th Brigade to these tasks and for whom is a big worry as is the crossover into government and global connection.
Also interesting hearing Imperial College being teamed up with Huawei for a 'data science innovation lab' 5G AI etc. btw they've been in partnership since 2014 so the security fears stories are likely deflective bolox.
Don't spout to others about free thinking and yet put those who oppose your views in a bracket where you are of higher intelligence and they simply don't see the 'real truth'.
For me it often seems on here we have shepherds telling you not to be sheep unless you care to join their flock.Hypocrisy of the highest order.
Call me stupid because I think most conspiracy theory is completely irrational and I'll have a problem with that but I couldn't care less apart from that what anyone posts.Of course you shouldn't care about others views of yourself on an anonymous internet forum but many like myself will succumb to such weakness.
Shutting down people often just helps perpetuate their ideas as it's obvious they were speaking the 'real truth' and THEY could not have the masses seeing this 'real truth'
I'm often much more interested in the psychology of the conspiracy theorist believers than the content. The world is a very confusing and chaotic place it's fascinating how different minds try to form some sort of structure to it.
May 21, 2020 -- 10:12AM, stridingedge wrote:
My main gripe on here is not the ideas others post, it's being told I am a sheep by those professing that they are free thinkers who welcome an open mind and freedom of speech.Don't spout to others about free thinking and yet put those who oppose your views in a bracket where you are of higher intelligence and they simply don't see the 'real truth'.For me it often seems on here we have shepherds telling you not to be sheep unless you care to join their flock.Hypocrisy of the highest order.Call me stupid because I think most conspiracy theory is completely irrational and I'll have a problem with that but I couldn't care less apart from that what anyone posts.Of course you shouldn't care about others views of yourself on an anonymous internet forum but many like myself will succumb to such weakness.Shutting down people often just helps perpetuate their ideas as it's obvious they were speaking the 'real truth' and THEY could not have the masses seeing this 'real truth'I'm often much more interested in the psychology of the conspiracy theorist believers than the content. The world is a very confusing and chaotic place it's fascinating how different minds try to form some sort of structure to it.
This post relies on the predetermined premise that what particluar posters are saying is bullsh!t it's generalised fake superiority nonsense attempting to belittle other posters dressed up in a disingenuous manner when you have no idea what is being spoken about and have not even seen any evidence either way.
This says more about you and your ilk than it does me and mine.
You can find evidence for everything that is in any of my posts the evidence is found before posting and any subsequent unknown thoughts are posted as suppositions and/or questions.
From the 2:42AM post
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/141031/huawei-imperial-open-data-science-innovation/
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/19/imperial_college_huawei/
https://www.huawei.com/uk/press-events/news/uk/2020/huawei-and-imperial-college-announce-new-collaboration
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/politician-claims-that-british-army-77th-brigade-are-attacking-scots-online/
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/77-brigade-is-countering-covid-misinformation/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjAoqx5OOFc
Your reply is the sort of conceited bordering on narcissistic contempt for anyone else's view yet you seem to wet your little knickers at the thought there are people out there trying to suppress freedom of speech.
it's being told I am a sheep by those professing that they are free thinkers who welcome an open mind and freedom of speech.Don't spout to others about free thinking and yet put those who oppose your views in a bracket where you are of higher intelligence and they simply don't see the 'real truth'.
The above is my experience of chitchat which thankfully when racing resumes in the UK will be a distant memory.
If I'm directing anything at you specifically I'll name you in my post and I'll highlight the point I am referring to.
Good thread Denzil. I can think of a few you are referring to but as I once remarked to Terry M, who was adamant some of these goons were being paid by someone to spout their nonsense, I wouldnt pay them to pick up the dogsh*t from my back garden as they would without any question of doubt pick the flowers up instead such is the nature of their belief systems. Love
They continually embarrass themselves with their musings and misguided beliefs thus proving the very extreme power of propaganda and the effect it can have on people.
Just look at where we are right now ? Crazy world. Crazy
But as i said a very good thread
[b]This is the sort of thing I had in mind, this totally arrogant outlook that others with opposing views are beneath ones self.Telling people to open their minds but as soon as this results in an opposing view they are stupid and blind from the real truth.
May 21, 2020 -- 4:27PM, Baphornet wrote:
i wonder how edy's hair is getting on?
The hair is entering Timothée Chalamet territory.
This from J Waffle H is very funny from a person who continually slags off anyone who disagrees with him. Happy daze.
Charming, funny, and a man of the people who finishes concerts despite broken legs.
Your 4:06PM post contradicts your 10:12PM post you were generally having a go at certain people and what they post about no need to name mames you highlighted you REAL intentions of the first post in your 4:38 post;
stridingedge • May 21, 2020 4:38 PM BST
This is the sort of thing I had in mind, this totally arrogant outlook that others with opposing views are beneath ones self.Telling people to open their minds but as soon as this results in an opposing view they are stupid and blind from the real truth.
No need to name names my read of your post was correct and you got a reply that evidenced my most recent post and interaction with one of your targets.
[b]stridingedge • May 21, 2020 4:06 PM BST
Your reply is the sort of[b] conceited bordering on narcissistic contempt for anyone else's view yet you seem to wet your little knickers at the thought there are people out there trying to suppress freedom of speech.[/b]
The highlighted bit reads like inverted self projection in this context.
If you have issues with what posters post try providing contrary evidence without pre conceived judgements.
This thread topic was a part dig at people for getting my posts removed and openly boasting at trying to get me banned,the evidence about paid social media influencers which infiltrate public forums is also out there whether that happens on here who knows.
The military are also involved to some degree that is where the most was learned from the evidence provided by John.W.Henry.
In this instance their job is not to openly push a particular agenda but to stifle and shut down any opposing factual views their employers dictate,this will include abusing a community member with an opposing viewpoint creating a divide no matter of the validity that viewpoint and ensuring these views are removed or the community member is removed either directly or indirectly through provocation reaction.
No need to name names here either
J Waffle H has never ever, on any thread. provided evidence of anything. Conspiritard bullsh!te in abundance, conspiritard lies in abundance, links to reputable sources sadly lacking. Happy daze.
May 21, 2020 -- 5:30PM, Baphornet wrote:
then again i doubt if either mine or edy's barnet is as bad as Laura Kuenssbergs
What was edy's hair like again? did someone say Freddie Boswell? Ashley will be cross
May 21, 2020 -- 5:50PM, Charlie wrote:
Getting funnier: The military are also involved to some degree that is where the most was learned from the evidence provided by John.W.Henry.J Waffle H has never ever, on any thread. provided evidence of anything. Conspiritard bullsh!te in abundance, conspiritard lies in abundance, links to reputable sources sadly lacking. Happy daze.
Charlie you are getting thicker 6 links provided 2:15PM post and you still post nonsense,do you hsve issues?
Just post a clip of someone on youtube claiming all such forums have hired posters as you have stated.This is all the evidence that's required for you to state it as proof.
Perhaps David Icke has a view on it after all the son of the godhead is a credible point of reference.
THEY are all watching you form the giant moon spacecraft man! The Betfair forum mods are in cahoots.
logic and facts dont work with conspiracy loons
People have been openly boasting about trying to get you banned?
May 21, 2020 -- 6:01PM, stridingedge wrote:
Paranoid as fcuk Denz.Just post a clip of someone on youtube claiming all such forums have hired posters as you have stated.This is all the evidence that's required for you to state it as proof.Perhaps David Icke has a view on it after all the son of the godhead is a credible point of reference.THEY are all watching you form the giant moon spacecraft man! The Betfair forum mods are in cahoots.
Didn't realise you were a clown take your pick
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&biw=1129&bih=654&ei=dsfGXo_GLYOW8gK6spQg&q=evidence+of+paid+internet+forum+influencers&oq=evidence+of+paid+internet+forum+&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMgUIIRCgAToECAAQRzoFCAAQkQI6BQgAEIMBOgIIADoOCAAQ6gIQtAIQmgEQ5QI6CAgAEIMBEJECOgQIABBDOgcIABCDARBDOgQIABAKOgkIABAKEEYQ-QE6BAgAEAM6BggAEBYQHjoICCEQFhAdEB46BwghEAoQoAFQ3CJY7ZkBYICwAWgIcAF4AIABoAGIAZgckgEFMTkuMTeYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEG&sclient=psy-ab
https://www.google.com/search?q=paid+internet+forum+influencers&client=firefox-b-d&ei=AMfGXofhNdD4gQa4zYCoBQ&start=0&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwiH4bTQycXpAhVQfMAKHbgmAFU4ChDy0wN6BAgMEDI&biw=1129&bih=654
May 21, 2020 -- 6:19PM, edy wrote:
This thread topic was a part dig at people for getting my posts removed and openly boasting at trying to get me bannedPeople have been openly boasting about trying to get you banned?
GRANTCKING • May 15, 2020 12:35 AM BST
edyth is dangerous, he almost got me life banned last summer
DenzilPenberthy • May 15, 2020 12:38 AM BST
He tried to get me banned LAST WEEK
edy • May 15, 2020 12:39 AM BST
That's a lie. It was this week.
DenzilPenberthy • May 15, 2020 12:44 AM BST
GRANT it's funny these types have zero shame trying to get someone banned for a viewpoint they don't like on an open betting forum
Did you know edyth doesn't bet it's a mystery to some why he spends so long on these forums what's his purpose?
Better not say too much in case he gets me banned,it hasn't occurred to him I hadn't posted for 6 months until a fortnight ago so hardly the end of the world
DenzilPenberthy • May 15, 2020 12:56 AM BST
edy why are you trying to get people banned?
There are people who've received death threats and worse on here who don't do that be a man
edy • May 15, 2020 12:57 AM BST
It's fun
DenzilPenberthy • May 15, 2020 12:58 AM BST
It makes you look weak and petty
DenzilPenberthy • May 15, 2020 1:25 AM BST
edy It's an open forum for adults who are strangers why does someone joking about your hair matter?
Why shouldn't anyone make fun of anyone else?
You call people all kinds of names daily and that's somehow fine
How can you justify that you sound like a whining baby
Why do you need to control what another poster says is it your job?
edy • May 15, 2020 1:31 AM BST
It's not my job.
In some cases it's simply fun (as I already told you)
Sometimes people just say things that are not acceptable. The internet is not a place where people can just say whatever they like without any repercussions.
In the majority of cases it has proven to be a good tool to get rid of people who keep disagreeing with me. Whether they really deserved to be banned is maybe up for debate, but in life not everything is always completely fair.
[b]
etc.etc.etc.etc.etc......... Can't be arsed to find the others
Jeez I'm the clown.
This is the great thing when your theories all hold the main assumption that so many shadowy figures are quashing your every move.Who ever needs real evidence for anything, just play the suppression card.The real truth is always being upheld so just invent your own and peddle it as fact.
I hope genuinely you aren't half as paranoid as you come across on here.
That was just me playing along after you had long made up your mind anyway and I had figured it'd be boatloads more fun to play along than to actually tell the truth, with you then strongly insisting that the lady doth protest too much.
Though I was afraid I had made it a bit too obvious. I mean, me and my bestest forum buddy in the whole wide world, GRANTCKING, told you that I had initially been successful in getting him banned for life because he had made fun of my hair.
What theories?
There's nothing that's a theory there's nothing that equates to paranoia
I found out about paid internet influencers and had a dig at those who act like them (see above for a small example) there is no theory these people exist as the links I posted prove.
As I said earlier whether they exist on here who knows?
Elsewhere on smaller forums than this they certainly do it's a job for some.
I didn't know there was military involvement targetting regular people online that is also provable.
Why are you talking of tinpot conspiracies and paranoia when you know less about these subjects than those you try to knock down,how do you know what's conspiracy and what isn't? -You don't that's why we are in this exchange now.
You will be better served looking into these areas properly before posting instead of the generalised nonsense you've produced today,you might find some provable fact that opens up discussion instead of the not so subtle attempts at pi$$ taking.
May 21, 2020 -- 7:55PM, edy wrote:
So rest assured, Denzil, I have never actually reported a post of yours and I have never tried to get you banned.
Great news edy it remains a mystery who banned all those posts on multiple threads
I like your sense of humour and cunning
Maybe one day I'll be rehired. We'll see. So long
May 21, 2020 -- 7:58PM, stridingedge wrote:
There we go narcissist in full cry, a beauty to behold.
What sort of replies do you expect?
You still haven't proved me wrong and can't acknowledge my posts and links as being correct yet continue the namecalling.
You had a go and didn't expect a reply,you got some factual ones (which you didn't expect) big deal
You presume people tell lies,are paranoid and believe in nonsense on subjects you know little about yet jump straight in,that's life.
May 21, 2020 -- 8:01PM, edy wrote:
I didn't really want to announce it, jolly, but I'm going to retire from Chit Chat and politics after tonight. So I gathered I might as well come clean on not actually being the evil person that gets people lifetime bans for comments on my hair. Contract only expires tomorrow, but you know...there's always some stuff to do on your last day, so I don't think I'll post much tomorrow.Maybe one day I'll be rehired. We'll see. So long
See you tomorrow I'll try to put up a bannable topic so you are excused a necessary return
I'll miss you, jolly
If you miss me too, maybe you will one day find me for a chat in other parts of the forum where I post voluntarily, without being paid.
How do you suggest I do this?
You presume people tell lies,are paranoid and believe in nonsense on subjects you know little about yet jump straight in,that's life.
What subjects are you saying I know nothing about let's discuss them?
You had a go and didn't expect a reply,you got some factual ones (which you didn't expect) big deal
you've linked one idea and used it to back up another in a completely loose context and claim it to be fact. No why doesn't that surprise me?
I can't prove the existence or non existence of an illuminati
Guess what neither can you but keep telling me to shut up as you are far superior on these subjects you won't specify.
Where do I presume this?
All the best to you and Alfonse
May 21, 2020 -- 9:46PM, jollyswagman wrote:
he will just post under one of his other usernames unless i decide he has no further use
Why are you telling everyone?
Sorry, the only two people I take directions and advice from are my mother and my personal stylist Ashley (no, this is not my mother).
You are neither, as far as I'm aware, so...I'll keep doing what I like.
