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Covid-19 coronavirus: Controversial bill passed to enforce alert level 2 powers ( New Z Herald.)
A bill giving police sweeping powers to potentially enter homes without warrants while enforcing Covid-19 alert level rules has passed.
The Covid-19 Public Health Response Bill was rushed through Parliament in time for alert level 2 but came under intense scrutiny from the Opposition.
It passed 63 votes in favour with 57 against.
The National Party and Act didn't support the bill, saying it was an overreach of powers, distrusted New Zealanders and didn't allow for orders to have proper scrutiny.
But the Government said it was necessary to ensure the continued fight against Covid-19 and created more accountability, not less.
The Human Rights Commission said it was "deeply concerned" about the lack of scrutiny of the bill and its rushed process "is a great failure of our democratic process".
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The law sets up the legal framework for future alert levels as there is no longer a State of Emergency. It effectively allows the Health Minister to issue an order that would make alert level rules legally enforceable.
That might include, for example, the ability for police or "enforcement officers" to close certain premises or roads, ban certain types of travel or congregations, or require people to be physically distant or to stay at home in their bubbles if necessary.
It also would allow warrantless searches of private property if there was a reasonable belief that the alert level rules were being broken.
It is the first Covid-related legislation that hasn't had the support of all the political parties.
The bill was tweaked at the committee stage this morning.
At the request of the Māori Council, the specific reference to marae was removed and the Government added the requirement a warrantless search be reported to the relevant marae committee.
Attorney-General David Parker said it was written into the bill with the intention of providing more protection.
"It's actually something that doesn't take away protections; it actually adds them. But nonetheless, Māoridom don't want that. They want to be the same as non-Māoridom in respect of those premises," Parker said.
The original two-year sunset clause has been mitigated by an amendment to see the legislation refreshed every 90 days, or longer if required.
But the National Party still opposed the bill.
National MP Gerry Brownlee said it "puts far too much power in the hands of one person: the Prime Minister" because there was also no mention of what advice she needed to make a decision.
Education Minister Chris Hipkins said when Brownlee brought in legislation that curtailed civil liberties after the Canterbury Earthquakes, he felt uncomfortable voting for it but "it was the right thing to do".
National also wanted to the bill amended to also allow people to gather in groups of up to 100 and for Opposition consultation on orders.
Opposition leader Simon Bridges yesterday called the 10-person limit on gatherings "inhumane", especially in respect of funerals and places of worship.
The National Party today launched a petition for Parliament to reject the 10-person limit.
Today, the Government backed down on the limits on tangihanga and funerals and allowed funeral directors a special dispensation to allow up to 50 people to attend.
On the Covid-19 Public Health Response Bill, Act leader David Seymour said despite voting for it in its first and second reading, he couldn't support it in the final stage.
The bill failed to balance the rights and freedoms and overall welfare of all New Zealanders with the Government's effort to control Covid-19, he said.
"I have tried to work constructively to limit the power of the director general, making a democratically elected minister the only person with the power to issue long term orders, but the Government voted against that."
Parker argued the powers under the Covid-19 Bill are "actually narrower than the powers under the Health Act" which was why the Government had created a whole new framework.
There's also been a criticism of how quickly the bill had rushed through the House.
Ahead of its third reading, Justice Minister Andrew Little said he appreciated this wasn't how laws were meant to be made but the times were extraordinary.
But the bill would ensure New Zealand moved down alert levels, Little said.
Chief Human Rights Commissioner Paul Hunt called the lack of scrutiny and rushed process for the bill "a great failure of our democratic process".
The Human Rights Commission was "strongly of the view" the legislation should include a provision to ensure those making decisions, and exercising powers, under the new law, would do so in accordance with national and international human rights commitments and Te Tiriti o Waitangi, Hunt said.
"In times of national emergency sweeping powers are granted. There is a risk of overreach. Mistakes are made and later regretted. This is precisely when our national and international human rights and Te Tiriti commitments must be taken into account."
A bill giving police sweeping powers to potentially enter homes without warrants while enforcing Covid-19 alert level rules has passed.
The Covid-19 Public Health Response Bill was rushed through Parliament in time for alert level 2 but came under intense scrutiny from the Opposition.
It passed 63 votes in favour with 57 against.
The National Party and Act didn't support the bill, saying it was an overreach of powers, distrusted New Zealanders and didn't allow for orders to have proper scrutiny.
But the Government said it was necessary to ensure the continued fight against Covid-19 and created more accountability, not less.
The Human Rights Commission said it was "deeply concerned" about the lack of scrutiny of the bill and its rushed process "is a great failure of our democratic process".
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• Covid 19 coronavirus: How vaccine could be manufactured in NZ
The law sets up the legal framework for future alert levels as there is no longer a State of Emergency. It effectively allows the Health Minister to issue an order that would make alert level rules legally enforceable.
That might include, for example, the ability for police or "enforcement officers" to close certain premises or roads, ban certain types of travel or congregations, or require people to be physically distant or to stay at home in their bubbles if necessary.
It also would allow warrantless searches of private property if there was a reasonable belief that the alert level rules were being broken.
It is the first Covid-related legislation that hasn't had the support of all the political parties.
The bill was tweaked at the committee stage this morning.
At the request of the Māori Council, the specific reference to marae was removed and the Government added the requirement a warrantless search be reported to the relevant marae committee.
Attorney-General David Parker said it was written into the bill with the intention of providing more protection.
"It's actually something that doesn't take away protections; it actually adds them. But nonetheless, Māoridom don't want that. They want to be the same as non-Māoridom in respect of those premises," Parker said.
The original two-year sunset clause has been mitigated by an amendment to see the legislation refreshed every 90 days, or longer if required.
But the National Party still opposed the bill.
National MP Gerry Brownlee said it "puts far too much power in the hands of one person: the Prime Minister" because there was also no mention of what advice she needed to make a decision.
Education Minister Chris Hipkins said when Brownlee brought in legislation that curtailed civil liberties after the Canterbury Earthquakes, he felt uncomfortable voting for it but "it was the right thing to do".
National also wanted to the bill amended to also allow people to gather in groups of up to 100 and for Opposition consultation on orders.
Opposition leader Simon Bridges yesterday called the 10-person limit on gatherings "inhumane", especially in respect of funerals and places of worship.
The National Party today launched a petition for Parliament to reject the 10-person limit.
Today, the Government backed down on the limits on tangihanga and funerals and allowed funeral directors a special dispensation to allow up to 50 people to attend.
On the Covid-19 Public Health Response Bill, Act leader David Seymour said despite voting for it in its first and second reading, he couldn't support it in the final stage.
The bill failed to balance the rights and freedoms and overall welfare of all New Zealanders with the Government's effort to control Covid-19, he said.
"I have tried to work constructively to limit the power of the director general, making a democratically elected minister the only person with the power to issue long term orders, but the Government voted against that."
Parker argued the powers under the Covid-19 Bill are "actually narrower than the powers under the Health Act" which was why the Government had created a whole new framework.
There's also been a criticism of how quickly the bill had rushed through the House.
Ahead of its third reading, Justice Minister Andrew Little said he appreciated this wasn't how laws were meant to be made but the times were extraordinary.
But the bill would ensure New Zealand moved down alert levels, Little said.
Chief Human Rights Commissioner Paul Hunt called the lack of scrutiny and rushed process for the bill "a great failure of our democratic process".
The Human Rights Commission was "strongly of the view" the legislation should include a provision to ensure those making decisions, and exercising powers, under the new law, would do so in accordance with national and international human rights commitments and Te Tiriti o Waitangi, Hunt said.
"In times of national emergency sweeping powers are granted. There is a risk of overreach. Mistakes are made and later regretted. This is precisely when our national and international human rights and Te Tiriti commitments must be taken into account."
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Very close vote there as well. Interesting fall out from this i suspect 
Jacinda Ardern is now the right-on folk's new wet dream of a leader, since Trudeau disappeared up his own virtue-signalling rabbit hole.
She took decisive action and closed borders before Coronavirus got a toe-hold in the country with the resulting minimisation of loss of life
.....just like pinko-liberals like Viktor Orban and Benjamin Netanyahu did in their respective countries
She took decisive action and closed borders before Coronavirus got a toe-hold in the country with the resulting minimisation of loss of life
.....just like pinko-liberals like Viktor Orban and Benjamin Netanyahu did in their respective countries
New Zealand are doing everything correctly with regards to Covid.
21 deaths & under 20 new cases a week. They have a chance to completely eliminate the killer virus from their country.
Come July there is every chance life will be close to "normal "
So Herny another very long fun n paste
So which country do you believe has handled the crisis best out of
UK, NZ, USA, Germany , Russia.
In my opinion it is New Zealand.
21 deaths & under 20 new cases a week. They have a chance to completely eliminate the killer virus from their country.
Come July there is every chance life will be close to "normal "
So Herny another very long fun n paste
So which country do you believe has handled the crisis best out of
UK, NZ, USA, Germany , Russia.
In my opinion it is New Zealand.
Mex, do you not consider that New Zealand being one of the most isolated places in the world is a rather big factor ?
May 13, 2020 -- 8:23PM, tobermory wrote:
Mex, do you not consider that New Zealand being one of the most isolated places in the world is a rather big factor ?
If you mean isolated as in they are an island, well yes.
NZ is sparsely populated comparative to most other countries
Isolated as in an island with a fraction of the foreign visitors that UK,France,Italy have...
Yep, if you closed your borders as New Zealand did, acting immediately..
The most successful countries will be those that get out of lockdown the quickest with the least damage to the economy and the wider society.
New Zealand may have prevented the spread of the virus but that means it will have to stay isolated as there are so few with exposure and they may be more vulnerable when the virus comes back round mutated, which all viruses do.
Those countries or cities with the 'worst' death/infection rate will weather a 2nd wave better. All leaders can only act on scientific advice and that depends on whether they have chosen the right scientist to listen to.
New Zealand may have prevented the spread of the virus but that means it will have to stay isolated as there are so few with exposure and they may be more vulnerable when the virus comes back round mutated, which all viruses do.
Those countries or cities with the 'worst' death/infection rate will weather a 2nd wave better. All leaders can only act on scientific advice and that depends on whether they have chosen the right scientist to listen to.
May 13, 2020 -- 9:38PM, Hanx wrote:
The most successful countries will be those that get out of lockdown the quickest with the least damage to the economy and the wider society. New Zealand may have prevented the spread of the virus but that means it will have to stay isolated as there are so few with exposure and they may be more vulnerable when the virus comes back round mutated, which all viruses do. Those countries or cities with the 'worst' death/infection rate will weather a 2nd wave better. All leaders can only act on scientific advice and that depends on whether they have chosen the right scientist to listen to.
Exactly, there will be no vaccine. There has never been a cure for a coronavirus
Get on with it and get infected, that should be the govt slogan
No point faffing about like this just because the political optics are bad re herd immunity.
Tobermory
The probable reason that North Korea has no deaths and no cases is that anybody who coughs or sneezes is shot.
The probable reason that North Korea has no deaths and no cases is that anybody who coughs or sneezes is shot.
May 13, 2020 -- 9:49PM, foxy wrote:
Tobermory The probable reason that North Korea has no deaths and no cases is that anybody who coughs or sneezes is shot.
same in China
If a vaccine never happens they will have to remain isolated forever.
With a population of just over 4 million they might save a couple of thousand lives after the next few years by doing this.
With a population of just over 4 million they might save a couple of thousand lives after the next few years by doing this.
over 70s throwing walking framss through walls over here
the governments got about a month to decide what to do with the "shielded"
Watch this get rolled out all over the world. This is a blueprint. Canada next
Mexico13 May 20 18:17Joined: 25 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 6,443 | Blogger: Mexico's blog
New Zealand are doing everything correctly with regards to Covid.
21 deaths & under 20 new cases a week. They have a chance to completely eliminate the killer virus from their country.
Come July there is every chance life will be close to "normal "
So Herny another very long fun n paste
So which country do you believe has handled the crisis best out of
UK, NZ, USA, Germany , Russia.
In my opinion it is New Zealand.
FOOL.You have no idea what is going on do you ? Sorry that is not a question i need you to answer. It is obvious from all of your previous input on here that you are totally clueless
Enjoy Your Daze.
New Zealand are doing everything correctly with regards to Covid.
21 deaths & under 20 new cases a week. They have a chance to completely eliminate the killer virus from their country.
Come July there is every chance life will be close to "normal "
So Herny another very long fun n paste
So which country do you believe has handled the crisis best out of
UK, NZ, USA, Germany , Russia.
In my opinion it is New Zealand.
FOOL.You have no idea what is going on do you ? Sorry that is not a question i need you to answer. It is obvious from all of your previous input on here that you are totally clueless
Enjoy Your Daze.
Oh my.. Now it begins to add up.
Government announces $50 million support package for NZ media industry. Full story here. @ 1 news new zealand. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/government-announces-50-million-support-package-nz-media-industry
A worrying paragraph from the report.
A second support package is also being developed and will be submitted for the Covid-19 Budget discussions in May. Mr Faafoi says the first phase of support will not be sufficient to see the sector through the “prolonged period of restrictions and reduced advertising”.
He says Government will continue to work with media organisations to make sure assistance is targeted and appropriate.
New Zealand’s media sector is one of three that has been given a specific amount of funding to get it through the Covid-19 pandemic, outside of the wage subsidy. Both primary health care and aviation have also received funding.
So in effect the Government have " bought the media " and in addition pledged a further bung out if they toe the official line.
Everyone getting it yet ?
Government announces $50 million support package for NZ media industry. Full story here. @ 1 news new zealand. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/government-announces-50-million-support-package-nz-media-industry
A worrying paragraph from the report.
A second support package is also being developed and will be submitted for the Covid-19 Budget discussions in May. Mr Faafoi says the first phase of support will not be sufficient to see the sector through the “prolonged period of restrictions and reduced advertising”.
He says Government will continue to work with media organisations to make sure assistance is targeted and appropriate.
New Zealand’s media sector is one of three that has been given a specific amount of funding to get it through the Covid-19 pandemic, outside of the wage subsidy. Both primary health care and aviation have also received funding.
So in effect the Government have " bought the media " and in addition pledged a further bung out if they toe the official line.
Everyone getting it yet ?
@Reynard Still a minority that do m8 as you well know. 
As selfish as it may sound I couldn't give a damn about the majority . If they cannot open their eyes for themselves then as far as I'm concerned they deserve what's coming 
If we all refused to comply with the nonsense what could they do ?
The majority are sleep walking into vax central
The majority are sleep walking into vax central
The people at the top never waste a 'good' crisis to increase their powers.
Henry
I believe I do know what is going on & it is you & the rest of the shiny-hat mob who struggle with science, evidence, education. You won't find "The Truth" in a David's Icke video.
New Zealand have been very successful in handling this crisis. I agree with previous poster that geography has helped NZ but they closed borders & went to lockdown when a relatively low number of cases in the country. UK doesn't have an isolation period for people arriving from abroad- NZ (&oz) have pretty much stopped all outside arrivals.
Henry you constantly abuse anybody who disagrees with you but never clearly explain what your beliefs are.
You hide behind pages and pages of evidence free cut n paste waffle.
You couldn't even answer which one of those countries you thought were handling this problem the best. You seemed more interested in abuse.
Do you even believe there is a covid19 virus?
Do you believe a shiny hat is a good replacement for a lack of education?
Well done New Zealand.
I believe I do know what is going on & it is you & the rest of the shiny-hat mob who struggle with science, evidence, education. You won't find "The Truth" in a David's Icke video.
New Zealand have been very successful in handling this crisis. I agree with previous poster that geography has helped NZ but they closed borders & went to lockdown when a relatively low number of cases in the country. UK doesn't have an isolation period for people arriving from abroad- NZ (&oz) have pretty much stopped all outside arrivals.
Henry you constantly abuse anybody who disagrees with you but never clearly explain what your beliefs are.
You hide behind pages and pages of evidence free cut n paste waffle.
You couldn't even answer which one of those countries you thought were handling this problem the best. You seemed more interested in abuse.
Do you even believe there is a covid19 virus?
Do you believe a shiny hat is a good replacement for a lack of education?
Well done New Zealand.
Mexico,
How long do you think NZ will have to stay isolated from the outside world?
How long do you think NZ will have to stay isolated from the outside world?
Trader.. A tip for you my friend. Do not engage with that serial buffoon called mexico. If the narrative told him the year was 1066 he would believe it. Total imbecile.
They can still trade & ship goods in & out.
Chance travel to & from Oz could happen soon.
Full open up to allow people in (without 2 weeks in isolation) is a how long is a piece of string question. Without vaccine, really quick test or cure then a long time.
Really the only people who would be prepared to go 2 weeks in isolation will be those who want to stay for months/years.
Plenty of trade can be conducted with other countries without people physically meeting each other. So in that sense they won't be isolated from the "outside world "
If as some as people on here claim (with zero or very little evidence) that the virus either does not exist or isn't very dangerous then NZ can open up once the facts are known.
The NZ government have handled this crisis well (IMO) - would you not agree IT.
Chance travel to & from Oz could happen soon.
Full open up to allow people in (without 2 weeks in isolation) is a how long is a piece of string question. Without vaccine, really quick test or cure then a long time.
Really the only people who would be prepared to go 2 weeks in isolation will be those who want to stay for months/years.
Plenty of trade can be conducted with other countries without people physically meeting each other. So in that sense they won't be isolated from the "outside world "
If as some as people on here claim (with zero or very little evidence) that the virus either does not exist or isn't very dangerous then NZ can open up once the facts are known.
The NZ government have handled this crisis well (IMO) - would you not agree IT.
Henry
You clearly were "engaging " with me earlier today.
Now you offer rude "advice " to IT - a case of "do as I say not as I do" - don't you have a 2000 word cut n paste waffle to hide behind Henry?
I noticed you are unable to answer really simple questions about your own beliefs about this virus.
You clearly were "engaging " with me earlier today.
Now you offer rude "advice " to IT - a case of "do as I say not as I do" - don't you have a 2000 word cut n paste waffle to hide behind Henry?
I noticed you are unable to answer really simple questions about your own beliefs about this virus.
perhaps the kiwis will copy the austrians who have a test (cost about £165) available to those entering the country keen to avoid the 14 day quarantine period, the results take a few hours to arrive.
https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2020/05/03/vienna-airport-offers-arrivals-covid-19-test-to-avoid-quarantine/
https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2020/05/03/vienna-airport-offers-arrivals-covid-19-test-to-avoid-quarantine/
Time will tell.
If a vaccine never comes and you need 10-20% to build up immunity to protect the population they will get it eventually unless they stay quarantined for a long time.
American Samoa successfully did this during the Spanish Flu and had zero deaths whilst the New Zealand run Western Samoa lost a fifth of its population. I am guess NZ learnt from their actions 100 years ago and over reacted this time to something that is not anything like as dangerous as the Spanish Flu.
https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/roundtable/how-american-samoa-kept-pandemic-bay
If a vaccine never comes and you need 10-20% to build up immunity to protect the population they will get it eventually unless they stay quarantined for a long time.
American Samoa successfully did this during the Spanish Flu and had zero deaths whilst the New Zealand run Western Samoa lost a fifth of its population. I am guess NZ learnt from their actions 100 years ago and over reacted this time to something that is not anything like as dangerous as the Spanish Flu.
https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/roundtable/how-american-samoa-kept-pandemic-bay
What is deeply shocking is that countries like Denmark, Hungary and New Zealand are extending the powers of the state in dreadful ways against the civil liberties of their people in the name of protecting them from themselves.
This is very dangerous and never in history has ended well.
Trust the people and rule by consent.
This is very dangerous and never in history has ended well.
Trust the people and rule by consent.
It
Are you sure 10-20% will provide immunity to protect the people. Still leaves 80-90% with no protection.
In the early days (back in Frb/ March) were talking at about 70%
IT - which of those countries I mentioned do you believe have handled this crisis the best?
I'm impressed that NZ seem to have zero (or very low numbers) of new cases & 21 (maybe slightly higher if people missed) deaths.
Are you sure 10-20% will provide immunity to protect the people. Still leaves 80-90% with no protection.
In the early days (back in Frb/ March) were talking at about 70%
IT - which of those countries I mentioned do you believe have handled this crisis the best?
I'm impressed that NZ seem to have zero (or very low numbers) of new cases & 21 (maybe slightly higher if people missed) deaths.
In terms of civil liberties and flattening the curve Sweden has done the best as they do not have to worry about ending lockdown.
Countries with less civil liberties New Zealand, Belarus and Taiwan seem to be doing well in terms of current death rates.
Countries with less civil liberties New Zealand, Belarus and Taiwan seem to be doing well in terms of current death rates.
Early days yet IT.
There is a decent chance that in a couple of months time Kiwis (& maybe Aussies) will be able to go to pub, cinema, restaurants, party, concerts , stadium sporting events etc.
Seems unlikely Sweden will allow that amount of "civil liberties " . Of course NZ /OZ not doing that yet , but seems to be their aim.
I feel at some point UK will "accept" a stable amount of cases/deaths each day to return to "normal " - the difficult part will be keeping it stable.
If we have 1000 infections a day , would expect under 20 deaths a day?? UK public may go with that situation.
Of course would need to make sure those 1000 daily cases don't start to rise exponentially.
There is a decent chance that in a couple of months time Kiwis (& maybe Aussies) will be able to go to pub, cinema, restaurants, party, concerts , stadium sporting events etc.
Seems unlikely Sweden will allow that amount of "civil liberties " . Of course NZ /OZ not doing that yet , but seems to be their aim.
I feel at some point UK will "accept" a stable amount of cases/deaths each day to return to "normal " - the difficult part will be keeping it stable.
If we have 1000 infections a day , would expect under 20 deaths a day?? UK public may go with that situation.
Of course would need to make sure those 1000 daily cases don't start to rise exponentially.
10-20% to provide immunity sounds, on the face of it as ludicrous.
I think the Govt are heading down the herd immunity route and I also think that they are hoping for a shift in the general thinking across the population of an attitude to develop of a "push on through" mentality when cases go back up. However when if that actually happens and we start to see death rates/cases spiral, even if the NHS can handle it, it will be very hard in this country to just push on through, the pressure to address it will be too great.
I think the Govt are heading down the herd immunity route and I also think that they are hoping for a shift in the general thinking across the population of an attitude to develop of a "push on through" mentality when cases go back up. However when if that actually happens and we start to see death rates/cases spiral, even if the NHS can handle it, it will be very hard in this country to just push on through, the pressure to address it will be too great.
I believe anyone who thinks a better prep is not the recipe for success or lesser failure given present climate is beyond comprehension even if it means Civil Liberty (CL) is infringed upon for the time being. And, I've little doubt the families and relatives of victims of Covid-19 can testify to it.
Economic prosperity is people/citizen dependent not so much government unless it Africa where corrupt despots aplenty. For instance, Singapore, where CL has been infringed upon regularly in Singapore - a country with nothing except its position in the world, and its intelligent and hardworking citizens; Japan and Germany - 2 countries on their knee post 2nd world war, but now the icon of economic success.
New Zealand and Australia may have benefited from their vast acreage, a lower population (comparatively) and "isolated" geographical position nevertheless, a non-proactive stance at the outset would have seen a more damaging position than the present; less damaging = quicker "normality" = quicker economic recovery = quicker prosperity = stability.
These 2 countries have acted swiftly to contain and minimise Covid-19 spread effectively similarly, immigration which has ensured their status and integrity are well regarded and appreciated, and living in either country is highly sought by any potential newcomers ie no foreign benefit/whingers or riff-raff in abundance.
Economic prosperity is people/citizen dependent not so much government unless it Africa where corrupt despots aplenty. For instance, Singapore, where CL has been infringed upon regularly in Singapore - a country with nothing except its position in the world, and its intelligent and hardworking citizens; Japan and Germany - 2 countries on their knee post 2nd world war, but now the icon of economic success.
New Zealand and Australia may have benefited from their vast acreage, a lower population (comparatively) and "isolated" geographical position nevertheless, a non-proactive stance at the outset would have seen a more damaging position than the present; less damaging = quicker "normality" = quicker economic recovery = quicker prosperity = stability.
These 2 countries have acted swiftly to contain and minimise Covid-19 spread effectively similarly, immigration which has ensured their status and integrity are well regarded and appreciated, and living in either country is highly sought by any potential newcomers ie no foreign benefit/whingers or riff-raff in abundance.
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CALLER:
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GOOGLE:
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CALLER:
I must have dialled the wrong number. Sorry.
GOOGLE:
No sir, Google bought Gordon’s Pizza last month.
CALLER:
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GOOGLE:
Do you want your usual, sir?
CALLER:
My usual? You know me?
GOOGLE:
According to our caller ID data sheet, the last 12 times you called you ordered an extra-large pizza
with three kinds of cheese, sausage, pepperoni, mushrooms, and meatballs on a thick crust.
CALLER:
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on a whole wheat gluten-free thin crust?
CALLER:
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CALLER:
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We have the result of your blood tests for the last 7 years.
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GOOGLE:
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CALLER:
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CALLER:
Is this Gordon's Pizza?
GOOGLE:
No sir, it's Google Pizza.
CALLER:
I must have dialled the wrong number. Sorry.
GOOGLE:
No sir, Google bought Gordon’s Pizza last month.
CALLER:
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GOOGLE:
Do you want your usual, sir?
CALLER:
My usual? You know me?
GOOGLE:
According to our caller ID data sheet, the last 12 times you called you ordered an extra-large pizza
with three kinds of cheese, sausage, pepperoni, mushrooms, and meatballs on a thick crust.
CALLER:
OK! That’s what I want ...
GOOGLE:
May I suggest that this time you order a pizza with ricotta, arugula, sun-dried tomatoes and olives
on a whole wheat gluten-free thin crust?
CALLER:
What? I detest vegetables!
GOOGLE:
Your cholesterol is not good, sir.
CALLER:
How the hell do you know!
GOOGLE:
Well, we cross-referenced your home phone number with your medical records.
We have the result of your blood tests for the last 7 years.
CALLER:
Okay, but I do not want your rotten vegetable pizza! I already take medication for my cholesterol.
GOOGLE:
Excuse me sir, but you have not taken your medication regularly. According to our database,
you purchased only a box of 30 cholesterol tablets once, at Drug RX Network, 4 months ago.
CALLER:
I bought more from another drugstore.
GOOGLE:
That doesn’t show on your credit card statement.
CALLER:
I paid in cash.
GOOGLE:
But you did not withdraw enough cash according to your bank statement.
CALLER:
I have other sources of cash.
GOOGLE:
That doesn’t show on your last tax return unless you bought them using an undeclared income source,
which is against the law.
CALLER:
WHAT THE HELL!
GOOGLE:
I'm sorry, sir, we use such information only with the sole intention of helping you.
CALLER:
Enough already! I'm sick to death of Google, Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp and all the others.
I'm going to an island without an Internet, or cable TV,
where there is no cell phone service and no one to watch me or spy on me.
GOOGLE:
I understand sir, but Alexa says you need to renew your passport first. It expired 6 weeks ago???? !!!!
Ardern is a monumental bull5hitter and empty suit.
She's an expert at bull5hitting to the cameras and "Hugging"/sob stories
Unless she plans to lockdown NZ forever, all she has succeeded in doing is ensuring more people die and setting her economy alight
She's an expert at bull5hitting to the cameras and "Hugging"/sob stories
Unless she plans to lockdown NZ forever, all she has succeeded in doing is ensuring more people die and setting her economy alight
I wish we had a bull**** of that calibre. Boris aspires to be like her.
Thats like saying I wish we had cat 5hit instead of this dog 5hit
Deaths per million of population...
UK 495
New Zealand 4
UK 495
New Zealand 4
Another very long fun n paste pointless waffle Henry.
Obviously got F-all to do with how well New Zealand have handled this virus & completely ignores UK/EU law.
Still keep your hat shiny Henry - it is doing a great job in protecting you from understanding science/ statistics/ evidence.
Obviously got F-all to do with how well New Zealand have handled this virus & completely ignores UK/EU law.
Still keep your hat shiny Henry - it is doing a great job in protecting you from understanding science/ statistics/ evidence.
May 15, 2020 -- 11:57AM, John.W.Henry. wrote:
Ordering Pizza In 2020CALLER:Is this Gordon's Pizza?GOOGLE: No sir, it's Google Pizza.CALLER: I must have dialled the wrong number. Sorry.GOOGLE: No sir, Google bought Gordon’s Pizza last month.CALLER: OK. I would like to order a pizza.GOOGLE: Do you want your usual, sir?CALLER:My usual? You know me?GOOGLE:According to our caller ID data sheet, the last 12 times you called you ordered an extra-large pizzawith three kinds of cheese, sausage, pepperoni, mushrooms, and meatballs on a thick crust.CALLER:OK! That’s what I want ...GOOGLE:May I suggest that this time you order a pizza with ricotta, arugula, sun-dried tomatoes and oliveson a whole wheat gluten-free thin crust?CALLER: What? I detest vegetables!GOOGLE: Your cholesterol is not good, sir.CALLER: How the hell do you know!GOOGLE:Well, we cross-referenced your home phone number with your medical records.We have the result of your blood tests for the last 7 years.CALLER:Okay, but I do not want your rotten vegetable pizza! I already take medication for my cholesterol.GOOGLE:Excuse me sir, but you have not taken your medication regularly. According to our database,you purchased only a box of 30 cholesterol tablets once, at Drug RX Network, 4 months ago.CALLER: I bought more from another drugstore.GOOGLE: That doesn’t show on your credit card statement.CALLER:I paid in cash.GOOGLE: But you did not withdraw enough cash according to your bank statement.CALLER: I have other sources of cash.GOOGLE:That doesn’t show on your last tax return unless you bought them using an undeclared income source,which is against the law.CALLER: WHAT THE HELL!GOOGLE: I'm sorry, sir, we use such information only with the sole intention of helping you.CALLER:Enough already! I'm sick to death of Google, Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp and all the others.I'm going to an island without an Internet, or cable TV,where there is no cell phone service and no one to watch me or spy on me.GOOGLE: I understand sir, but Alexa says you need to renew your passport first. It expired 6 weeks ago???? !!!!
BTW mex, as is the complete norm , you have completely misunderstood what this THREAD is all about.
C.O.N.T.R.O.L.
Hey ho , i would expect nothing less from a troll such as you hence why i refrain from engaging with you. DIMWIT
ENJOY YOUR DAZE
C.O.N.T.R.O.L.
Hey ho , i would expect nothing less from a troll such as you hence why i refrain from engaging with you. DIMWIT
ENJOY YOUR DAZE
Henry
8 new recorded cases in New Zealand in past week.
Is that enough C.O.N.T.R.O.L for your shiny hat Henry?
They have an chance of getting to zero cases in the country. Life is slowly returning to some sort of normal.
Stop trolling Henry - do you actually believe there is a virus killing people or do you need to check with David Icke first.
Shame UK doesn't have C.O.N.T.R.O.L that is why we have thousands of deaths & normal life seems to be a long way off.
Still you can still get your special hat polish Henry so life can carry on as normal for Icke's Sheeple .
Keep it shiny Henry. The truth is in a 4 hour you tube video.
8 new recorded cases in New Zealand in past week.
Is that enough C.O.N.T.R.O.L for your shiny hat Henry?
They have an chance of getting to zero cases in the country. Life is slowly returning to some sort of normal.
Stop trolling Henry - do you actually believe there is a virus killing people or do you need to check with David Icke first.
Shame UK doesn't have C.O.N.T.R.O.L that is why we have thousands of deaths & normal life seems to be a long way off.
Still you can still get your special hat polish Henry so life can carry on as normal for Icke's Sheeple .
Keep it shiny Henry. The truth is in a 4 hour you tube video.
They have an chance of getting to zero cases in the country. Life is slowly returning to some sort of normal.
do they plan to reopen the border at any point or is it locked forever?
Whats the plan for when foreigners start importing the virus again?
do they plan to reopen the border at any point or is it locked forever?
Whats the plan for when foreigners start importing the virus again?
There's as much chance of people visiting Mars than visiting NZ in the near future.
Will be a nice problem for New Zealand to have. If they do get to zero cases.
They might be able to allow people to visit from Oz if they also get to zero.
Regarding outside world- would need to put people in isolation for 2 weeks with testing . So only people who would go there will be those who want to stay for a few months or longer.
Shipping of goods in and out can still happen fairly safely as with cargo flights.
Gap year stop offs down under may be a thing of the past . Then again UK turned its back on 50 years of Aussies/ Kiwis when deciding we would rather have East Europeans working & living here.
If a vaccine is developed in a couple of years then they could open border with minimum risk to citizens. Wish UK had their problem.
They might be able to allow people to visit from Oz if they also get to zero.
Regarding outside world- would need to put people in isolation for 2 weeks with testing . So only people who would go there will be those who want to stay for a few months or longer.
Shipping of goods in and out can still happen fairly safely as with cargo flights.
Gap year stop offs down under may be a thing of the past . Then again UK turned its back on 50 years of Aussies/ Kiwis when deciding we would rather have East Europeans working & living here.
If a vaccine is developed in a couple of years then they could open border with minimum risk to citizens. Wish UK had their problem.
If a country like New Zealand with its geographical location and climate and zero Covid-19 it will undoubtedly attract significant numbers of wealthy individuals eg Gates/Bezos/Zuckerburg/etc.
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