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Hazard a guess, 6 Mill unemployed, 60 shot dead in N Ireland, Scotland and Wales to sort it out themselves.
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As a trained physicist she would not have let "The Science" be accepted as easily as the current media politicians have, that is for sure.
She would have opened the pits for everyone to hide in
She would have got the sun to do a front page thread blaming somebody else
she would not have used the scientists as human shields aka claimed to follow the science. i didnt like her at all but decisions would have been decided by cabinet and then acted upon.
she may have privatised it, corona bonds maybe.
she may have privatised it, corona bonds maybe.
I think she wouldnt have screwed the entire future of the under 30's to protect a generation who didnt know it was time to leave the stage.
She would have taxed anyone that caught it
Im over 50 Angoose. Ive no self interest in this at all. I just call it as I see it.
Thatcher kept Peter Morrison on as PPS when she knew he was a paedophile :
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-47545198
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-47545198
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/11/mi5-did-not-tell-police-of-former-mps-penchant-for-small-boys-inquiry-hears
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/11/mi5-did-not-tell-police-of-former-mps-penchant-for-small-boys-inquiry-hears
she would have banned cheltenham irrespective of virus as didnt like people enjoying themselves.
Denzil ...... I didn't know anything about that ! .......did some searching and found this :
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/thatchers-dad-mayor-preacher-groper-1257249.html
Thatcher's dad: mayor, preacher, groper
Alderman Roberts of Grantham liked to squeeze more than his sausages, reports Keith Nuthall
Keith Nuthall
Sunday 22 June 1997
Alderman Alfred Roberts, revered father of Margaret Thatcher and inspirer of her Victorian values, sexually harassed young female assistants working in the grocer's shop where she grew up, according to the distinguished political biographer Professor Bernard Crick.
Writing in the satirical magazine Punch, the political theorist, commentator and biographer of George Orwell recounts claims from contemporaries of the one-time Methodist preacher, pillar of society and Mayor of Grantham, Lincolnshire, that he "was a notorious toucher-up".
The assaults supposedly took place about 60 years ago, behind the counter of the shop, next to the "splendid mahogany spice drawers with sparkling brass handles (and) large, black, lacquered tea canisters", recalled in her autobiography by Baroness Thatcher, whose decisive endorsement of William Hague as Conservative leader last week has renewed her influence with the Tory right.
"Older teachers," Professor Crick was told by a Grantham friend, "all remembered their difficulty in trying, good women, to steer girls away from taking jobs at his shop.
"They were frightened to hint at the real reason: for he was a figure of real power in the town."
Crick, emeritus professor of the University of London, said that he learnt of the allegations in the mid-1980s, when the then Prime Minister was promoting the Victorian values of thrift and self-reliance that she had admired in her Rotarian father.
Her comments made the left-wing academic realise that he held the seeds of a story that could damage the Conservatives. Before the 1987 general election, he said, he gave the story to a friendly Daily Mirror journalist, who then declined to alert his newsdesk, fearing the wrath of owner Robert Maxwell, should it create too much controversy.
The story remained a secret until it appeared in Punch last week, although he had tried to persuade the magazine to publish it before this year's election.
Lady Thatcher's office said that the former Prime Minister had no comment.
However, although tales of her father's alleged sexual misconduct might not have been known nationally, they have been common currency in Grantham for years, it was clear last week.
Peter Hadlow, 76, lived next-door-but-one to the Robertses, and overheard many conversations about the scandal when working as an apprentice electrician. "Quite a broad spectrum of people said it. It was all over Grantham virtually," he said. "I would hear the boss talking about it. My ears were flapping - that sounds juicy, I thought.
"These stories were bandied about, and eventually you begin to believe there was some truth in them. But he was an Alderman and so that sort of thing got hushed up. It was a question of who do you believe - a teenage girl, or Mr Roberts?"
Mr Hadlow still lives in the same area of the town and added: "Funnily enough, when he gave up running the shop, he changed into a really nice bloke".
More significant still were the comments of a 74-year-old woman from Grantham, who told the Independent on Sunday that she had been molested on frequent occasions by Alderman Roberts, when she worked in his shop, aged just 15.
She said: "He was a bad one. He came round and put his arms around me, feeling my breasts. He used to put his tongue in my mouth.
"I got quite frightened. I didn't like it and I'd push him away. He'd say nothing and go, but then he would come back again. He used to chase other girls round the counter." She worked at the shop for six months until she told her parents what was happening. Her father told her she should not return.
The woman, who does not wish to be named, was then a chorister at the Methodist chapel where Alderman Roberts was a lay preacher. "One Sunday, I got up and walked out. I couldn't stand him standing up there and preaching," she said.
It was only then, when her parents challenged her to explain her behaviour, that she told them about the harassment she had suffered at the hands of the Alderman.
Professor Crick said that his piece was "written in the spirit of good-humoured satiric rage".
He said he had wanted it to be published before the general election. "I was so angry at the Conservative Party using all that family values stuff. To use it for political purposes is really quite off. It debases politics and in the end, you get caught out. It's a great offence to exploit and mythologise the past for political purposes."
Punch also sent a reporter to Grantham, who found pensioners willing to recount lurid tales about the grocer. One elderly resident claimed that she had two cousins working at the shop. "He was forever pinching their bums when they bent over - and looking up their skirts."
Journalist Richard Creasy wrote: "Memories of Alderman Alf raise a smirk amongst the pensioners who remember him far from fondly."
Paul Spike, editor of Punch, said: "People have been talking about this, but no one has been willing to run this until now. Crick has been talking about it for decades - he's a known responsible figure.
"We're not saying this has been established in a court of law. We thought we should check it out further. That's as much as we could get."
The rumours about Alderman Roberts took on fictional form in a novel about Thirties Grantham, Rotten Borough, written by local journalist Oliver Anderson and published in 1937. It featured a councillor who ran a corner grocery shop and was given to frolicking with his female assistants. At one point he is caught in flagrante beside the pork pies and polony sausages when a faulty light is switched on and passers-by see him, trousers down, through the shop window.
Rotten Borough was withdrawn from sale after just three weeks following threats from the Grantham establishment, including an earl and MP, of legal action. In 1989 it was republished by Fourth Estate. Its author died last year.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/thatchers-dad-mayor-preacher-groper-1257249.html
Thatcher's dad: mayor, preacher, groper
Alderman Roberts of Grantham liked to squeeze more than his sausages, reports Keith Nuthall
Keith Nuthall
Sunday 22 June 1997
Alderman Alfred Roberts, revered father of Margaret Thatcher and inspirer of her Victorian values, sexually harassed young female assistants working in the grocer's shop where she grew up, according to the distinguished political biographer Professor Bernard Crick.
Writing in the satirical magazine Punch, the political theorist, commentator and biographer of George Orwell recounts claims from contemporaries of the one-time Methodist preacher, pillar of society and Mayor of Grantham, Lincolnshire, that he "was a notorious toucher-up".
The assaults supposedly took place about 60 years ago, behind the counter of the shop, next to the "splendid mahogany spice drawers with sparkling brass handles (and) large, black, lacquered tea canisters", recalled in her autobiography by Baroness Thatcher, whose decisive endorsement of William Hague as Conservative leader last week has renewed her influence with the Tory right.
"Older teachers," Professor Crick was told by a Grantham friend, "all remembered their difficulty in trying, good women, to steer girls away from taking jobs at his shop.
"They were frightened to hint at the real reason: for he was a figure of real power in the town."
Crick, emeritus professor of the University of London, said that he learnt of the allegations in the mid-1980s, when the then Prime Minister was promoting the Victorian values of thrift and self-reliance that she had admired in her Rotarian father.
Her comments made the left-wing academic realise that he held the seeds of a story that could damage the Conservatives. Before the 1987 general election, he said, he gave the story to a friendly Daily Mirror journalist, who then declined to alert his newsdesk, fearing the wrath of owner Robert Maxwell, should it create too much controversy.
The story remained a secret until it appeared in Punch last week, although he had tried to persuade the magazine to publish it before this year's election.
Lady Thatcher's office said that the former Prime Minister had no comment.
However, although tales of her father's alleged sexual misconduct might not have been known nationally, they have been common currency in Grantham for years, it was clear last week.
Peter Hadlow, 76, lived next-door-but-one to the Robertses, and overheard many conversations about the scandal when working as an apprentice electrician. "Quite a broad spectrum of people said it. It was all over Grantham virtually," he said. "I would hear the boss talking about it. My ears were flapping - that sounds juicy, I thought.
"These stories were bandied about, and eventually you begin to believe there was some truth in them. But he was an Alderman and so that sort of thing got hushed up. It was a question of who do you believe - a teenage girl, or Mr Roberts?"
Mr Hadlow still lives in the same area of the town and added: "Funnily enough, when he gave up running the shop, he changed into a really nice bloke".
More significant still were the comments of a 74-year-old woman from Grantham, who told the Independent on Sunday that she had been molested on frequent occasions by Alderman Roberts, when she worked in his shop, aged just 15.
She said: "He was a bad one. He came round and put his arms around me, feeling my breasts. He used to put his tongue in my mouth.
"I got quite frightened. I didn't like it and I'd push him away. He'd say nothing and go, but then he would come back again. He used to chase other girls round the counter." She worked at the shop for six months until she told her parents what was happening. Her father told her she should not return.
The woman, who does not wish to be named, was then a chorister at the Methodist chapel where Alderman Roberts was a lay preacher. "One Sunday, I got up and walked out. I couldn't stand him standing up there and preaching," she said.
It was only then, when her parents challenged her to explain her behaviour, that she told them about the harassment she had suffered at the hands of the Alderman.
Professor Crick said that his piece was "written in the spirit of good-humoured satiric rage".
He said he had wanted it to be published before the general election. "I was so angry at the Conservative Party using all that family values stuff. To use it for political purposes is really quite off. It debases politics and in the end, you get caught out. It's a great offence to exploit and mythologise the past for political purposes."
Punch also sent a reporter to Grantham, who found pensioners willing to recount lurid tales about the grocer. One elderly resident claimed that she had two cousins working at the shop. "He was forever pinching their bums when they bent over - and looking up their skirts."
Journalist Richard Creasy wrote: "Memories of Alderman Alf raise a smirk amongst the pensioners who remember him far from fondly."
Paul Spike, editor of Punch, said: "People have been talking about this, but no one has been willing to run this until now. Crick has been talking about it for decades - he's a known responsible figure.
"We're not saying this has been established in a court of law. We thought we should check it out further. That's as much as we could get."
The rumours about Alderman Roberts took on fictional form in a novel about Thirties Grantham, Rotten Borough, written by local journalist Oliver Anderson and published in 1937. It featured a councillor who ran a corner grocery shop and was given to frolicking with his female assistants. At one point he is caught in flagrante beside the pork pies and polony sausages when a faulty light is switched on and passers-by see him, trousers down, through the shop window.
Rotten Borough was withdrawn from sale after just three weeks following threats from the Grantham establishment, including an earl and MP, of legal action. In 1989 it was republished by Fourth Estate. Its author died last year.
she,d have apologised to the kids for stealing their mik and promised them 2 bottles if they went back to school,
Thatcher wasn't a trained physicist. She had a first degree in Chemistry but never used it as she got Denis to pay for her to do another degree in Law.
Maggie was not perfect but she did try and protect this country:
Theresa May/Boris Johnson/Priti Useless etc etc etc: What are we going to SAY about this ?
Magaret Thatcher: What are we going to DO about this ?
Theresa May/Boris Johnson/Priti Useless etc etc etc: What are we going to SAY about this ?
Magaret Thatcher: What are we going to DO about this ?
When it came to strikes and industrial action she simply destroyed our manufacturing Base to stop strikes a bit like amputation of the leg in order to deal with an ingrowing toe nail.
Absolute psychopath
Absolute psychopath
Greatest PM ever, put millions on the housing ladder who would not have been able to get on it.
she,ll be a devastated a tory pm looks likely to beat her record 4,5 million unemployment,she must have thought that was in the record books for ever,
The Leopard • May 13, 2020 10:23 AM BST
Denzil ...... I didn't know anything about that ! .......did some searching and found this :
I didn't either until recently,more time to watch documentaries with this subject being the worst and the most covered up right through my lifetime.
Your assertion in your 11:11AM post makes sense to me as to why she let so much happen,the child sex abuse rings are a global issue and we (UK) have been frontrunners and enablers since the off and is known right at the top of our society.
Denzil ...... I didn't know anything about that ! .......did some searching and found this :
I didn't either until recently,more time to watch documentaries with this subject being the worst and the most covered up right through my lifetime.
Your assertion in your 11:11AM post makes sense to me as to why she let so much happen,the child sex abuse rings are a global issue and we (UK) have been frontrunners and enablers since the off and is known right at the top of our society.
Mrs Thatcher was to housing what Gordon Brown was to gold reserve - both were sold off at basement level.
May 13, 2020 -- 1:34PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:
The Leopard • May 13, 2020 10:23 AM BSTDenzil ...... I didn't know anything about that ! .......did some searching and found this :I didn't either until recently,more time to watch documentaries with this subject being the worst and the most covered up right through my lifetime.Your assertion in your 11:11AM post makes sense to me as to why she let so much happen,the child sex abuse rings are a global issue and we (UK) have been frontrunners and enablers since the off and is known right at the top of our society.
I didn't assert anything.
Lynn in the comments on that website suggests what may have happened to Margaret Thatcher as a child, the likelihood of it having happened is hard to judge.
What did BINGO! mean?
As written it suggests an agreement with the text
Nevermind
As written it suggests an agreement with the text
Nevermind
In the last official epidemic during the winter of 1989-90, 600 people per 1,000 fell ill and 26,000 people died
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/jan/10/qanda.infectiousdiseases
A only slightly better than boris..but without the social distancing
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/jan/10/qanda.infectiousdiseases
A only slightly better than boris..but without the social distancing
May 13, 2020 -- 3:05PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:
What did BINGO! mean?As written it suggests an agreement with the textNevermind
Sorry....Denzil …… I was in my local bingo club, socially distanced of course, and my numbers came up !……
Had the old iPhone on dictation, posted on thread before checking ....ooops !
That is £50 those old biddies will never see again!
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