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By:
politicspunter
When: 11 May 20 17:02
What about folks that consistently use taxis eg for work? They must be high up the risk scale I would guess.
By:
Angoose
When: 11 May 20 17:03

May 11, 2020 -- 4:55PM, Injera wrote:


What are the two basic components of risk ?Goose - exposure to the virus and your age/condition of health.


Wasn't specifically referring to COVID, was a more generic question.

You've got one of them i.e. exposure to the risk, specifically frequency of exposure
The second is the severity of succumbing to the risk.

These two elements allow you to score and categorise the risk profiles between two or more distinct operations when compiling a risk assessment.

By:
stridingedge
When: 11 May 20 17:03
Risk of catching it then depends the other risk factors they have,
By:
stridingedge
When: 11 May 20 17:05
^^

ie if you were low risk in all factors in a taxi as passenger regularly you'd have a higher risk of catching it but not having it do you harm as Cider was alluding too earlier.
By:
stridingedge
When: 11 May 20 17:05
to
By:
Angoose
When: 11 May 20 17:06
Correct, the risk of catching the virus is independent of the risk of an unfavourable outcome.
By:
Baphornet
When: 11 May 20 17:07
that's it then; i'm clapping for taxi drivers on Sunday
By:
saddo
When: 11 May 20 17:07
Cider 11 May 20 15:59 
Taxi drivers are 96% Male 44% 'BAME' 69% over 55.



And most of em lardy.
By:
stridingedge
When: 11 May 20 17:08
Laugh
By:
dave1357
When: 11 May 20 17:10
As Cider still hasn't grasped my point here is the link he meant to post

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19relateddeathsbyoccupationenglandandwales/deathsregistereduptoandincluding20april2020

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By:
Cider
When: 11 May 20 17:11

May 11, 2020 -- 5:07PM, saddo wrote:


Cider 11 May 20 15:59  Taxi drivers are 96% Male 44% 'BAME' 69% over 55.And most of em lardy.


Comorbidity also more likely

By:
Baphornet
When: 11 May 20 17:14
cops & duffnuts
By:
Injera
When: 11 May 20 17:43
It’s quite cute watching the media try and join the dots re who is more susceptible and why. Akin to watching a toddler play with a Rubik’s cube.

They want to blame racism whilst at the same time gutted more men are dying than women.
By:
Injera
When: 11 May 20 17:56
Yet another doctor going against the narrative. D Ezike, Director of the Department of Public Health in the US.

https://youtu.be/Tw9Ci2PZKZg

44 seconds.
By:
edy
When: 11 May 20 18:07
That's something that's widely been communicated by mainstream media, governments and health authorities, Injera.
By:
edy
When: 11 May 20 18:07
for months
By:
edy
When: 11 May 20 18:19
I mean, that's a multiple week old video of the director of the Illinois Depart of Public Health, a state body, at a press conference. It doesn't get much more official narrative than that.
By:
Cider
When: 11 May 20 18:32
Sky News direct quote:

'Doctors, nurses, paramedics, those on the front line in a sense have ample PPE'
By:
Cider
When: 11 May 20 18:32
Don't know whether to Laugh or Cry
By:
Injera
When: 11 May 20 18:35
It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death. Dr Ezike.

edy- I would suggest this has not been made clear to a public that has been very gullible.
By:
edy
When: 11 May 20 18:57
Maybe it hasn't in the media you read. Maybe your generally chaotic, deceitful and bumbling government hasn't been entirely upfront about it to you, I'm not certain on that, but I know for certain that the German government, the Robert-Koch-Institut (official government body on all things diseases), the Christian Drosten podcast (a regular podcast with a Berlin Charité virologist that is hosted by public broadcaster NDR - been heared by many, many millions - in fact that's the primary source for many), basically every big German media publication, the US government, the US mainstream media and US health officials like the one in your linked video. I'm also reasonably certain that I've seen it in The Guardian and/or The Independent.

Sorry, but...it's really been communicated. I understand you have an urge to to reveal to all of us gullible sheeple that there's a massive world-wide conspiracy going on and these people like Dr. Ezike are heroic whistleblowers that you have discovered to rescue us all.

They are not. "It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death." has been the official narrative and message all along.
By:
edy
When: 11 May 20 19:02
*US health officials like the one in your linked video have all communicated it to the public
By:
edy
When: 11 May 20 19:07
and people like Dr. Ezike communicated it in official press conferences, i.e in a vehicle to get the government/health body message to the people.

It's not like she whistleblew to some internet website that's the last bastion of freedom of speech, and she was then promptly fired from her position because The Powers That Be needed to silence her. She told her state in an official address to the public. A speech that will have been prepared and signed off on. Again, it doesn't get much more official narrative than that.
By:
edy
When: 11 May 20 19:22
Of course, it might not be easy to explain this in slogans. That is regrettable, that does open the door to people sniffing conspiracies, but at the same time the interested covid-19 truther will find during his research that not all governments and health bodies on the planet primarily feed six word slogans to the public. That other governments, various virologists (even ones on public broadcasters), health bodies have explained and communicated these things. That it hence makes little sense to make it out like this particular thing is part of a conspiracy.

You all voted for a government that, already last year, pretty obviously decided you are all far too stupid for anything that goes beyond simplistic, memorable slogans. Tough luck.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 11 May 20 19:48
If only people in this country had elected a government like the one in Germany, with clear policies they could respect.

By:
edy
When: 11 May 20 20:03
quite right
By:
Injera
When: 11 May 20 20:04
Laugh

I can assure you edy I did not and will not vote Tory.
By:
edy
When: 11 May 20 20:11
ok, I didn't quite mean literally every person in the UK voted for them. I'm well aware the some will have voted for the UKIP and the Green Party.

It's not a Tory problem per sé anyway. They have been the greatest UK party, it's not even close, and they will remain to be so. It's just Boris and his advisors that have decided the UK public are too stupid for anything beyond slogans. Maybe it's also their way to cover up for a lack of details and competence on their side of things. You need to actually understand stuff, or be interested in details, if you wish to go beyond slogans as a government after all.
By:
Injera
When: 11 May 20 20:31
Agreed edy!
By:
Cider
When: 11 May 20 20:57
Death rates per 100K in social care:

Female 9.6
Male 23.4

So men at nearly three times risk. I await the calls to take men off the front line in social care (not holding my breath).
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