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The highest rates of deaths involving COVID-19 were seen among low-skilled workers such as male security guards (45.7 deaths per 100,000 men), followed by male taxi drivers and chauffeurs (36.4 deaths per 100,000).
Which occupations have the highest potential exposure to the coronavirus (COVID-19)?
.https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/articles/whichoccupationshavethehighestpotentialexposuretothecoronaviruscovid19/2020-05-11
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Incessant raging and banging on about lack of PPE in the NHS, one after the other, interviews moaning and moaning. I suspected this would be the case, but it's good that it has been independently evidenced. It very much looks like the risk is predominantly down to the individual and not the occupation. However some increased attention needs to go to care workers.
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so we can pencil you in a for a shift at the local hospital ward tonight as no doubt you will feel entirely safe
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have to hide this from my chauffeur [ THE WIFE ]
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You’ve done it now Cider
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You are quoting from something that specifically points out that some occupations have a statistically significantly higher death rate as proof that risk is not predominantly down to the occupation?
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Unless you are a soldier on a battlefield you probably rarely die in the process of carrying out the duties of the occupation.
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The stats show that obese men are at a high risk of not recovering from the virus. So it could be that they had a higher risk of exposure to catching the virus, depending upon when they caught it. Clearly however front line workers had more exposure in carrying out their duties but had adequate PPE. What we don't know is how people pick up the virus in the first place. It's likely most of those men weren't working when it was contracted but that can't be discerned from the data.
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Rates of COVID-19 deaths among male and female health workers (such as doctors and nurses) were found to be similar to the general population.
Where are you getting that info? Does it mean rates of death as a whole or rates of death after exposure to the virus? The info in your link is quite remarkable - healthcare workers are highly likely to be in contact with the infection. No one would ever have considered that. Well done finding it. |
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It's the ONS, dave.
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a fat security guard is in trouble; what % would that cover i wonder
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It must be me. People catch the virus in places outside of work. Some of them work in healthcare.
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We must assume many healthcare workers in London use the tube. There is certainly no data to prove they catch the virus at their place of work.
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That's right. I thought it was interesting that retail staff weren't so prominent in these statistics. Since they should have theoretically been in quite a risky working environment.
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as i asked weeks ago: just how do health care/ NHS staff catch the virus if they're protected?
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At home, place of worship, friends, visitors....
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Travelling, shopping...
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then the majority do not catch it at work?
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I've been saying that's most likely for a long time.
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so basically it has nothing to do with their job? Unless you indirectly count travelling/ shopping etc
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It would have something to do with their job if they were unprotected, the deduction has to be PPE has been pretty effective.
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There's two elements, one catching it and the second not recovering. The workplace is one element of risk in catching it. But in the case of not recovering, being male, older and obese are very significant concerns.
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What are the two basic components of risk ?
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any stats for truckers?
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A main element for the NHS workers is viral load you can't ignore that, if their PPE was inadequate you'd know about it.
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You would really have to know where they actually caught the virus. Nothing would be certain.
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Taxi drivers figures are pretty shocking.
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What are the two basic components of risk ?
Goose - exposure to the virus and your age/condition of health. |
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Yes of course I'm saying IF you were talking about exposure whilst working.
We know all the factors known to increase risk by now. eg You wouldn't want to be BAme 60+ male with a health condition and obese |
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Basically, if you drive for a living, you’ve had it rough .
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A taxi driver may well be overweight/obese but they are in close confinement whilst working too
You'd rather be a doctor with effective PPE at work than a taxi driver with none |
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Better off looking at the transport slide....
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Taxi drivers are 96% Male 44% 'BAME' 69% over 55.
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Explains a lot doesn't it.
they not only have close scontact but fit all the known risk groups to a large extent. |
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Yup. They sadly tick too many boxes.
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Yup. And it will be much higher in regard to BAME in the cities.
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