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Advised in shops and public transport from Wed ......but not today, tomorrow , yesterday or all of April ......have they no idea how idiotic and buffoon like they look.
Does this mean you can go into the bank looking like a member of the Hole In The Wall Gang
Does this mean you can go into the bank looking like a member of the Hole In The Wall Gang
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Utter Shambolic Logic
No science has changed and now transmission is lower in community.
No science has changed and now transmission is lower in community.
the right measures at the right time 
just like getting testing sorted out AFTER the peak.
just like getting testing sorted out AFTER the peak.
Exactly, wondersobright.
Just look on with amused detachment (which is precisely what was happening to half the facemasks I saw being worn in the supermarket last time I was there).
Just look on with amused detachment (which is precisely what was happening to half the facemasks I saw being worn in the supermarket last time I was there).
I just grabbed the news bullet point I thought they had been made compulsory.
May 11, 2020 -- 3:33PM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:
Exactly, wondersobright.Just look on with amused detachment (which is precisely what was happening to half the facemasks I saw being worn in the supermarket last time I was there).
"I'm Gotham's reckoning, here to end the borrowed time you've all been living on. Stay safe."
no thanks
go back to the science pre-rockerfella then you have a legit argument
go back to the science pre-rockerfella then you have a legit argument
On the Last Leg they showed a clip of a woman who cut the mouth out of her face mask because it helped her breathe more easily.
Us cool kids have been wearing a mask for several weeks...all those foreign gadgies can't be wrong.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/woman-cuts-hole-coronavirus-face-21973262
Shambolic indeed but wearing a mask will save lives going forward
Maybe not every mask will save lives but the effect adds up.
If you can then please wear one
Maybe not every mask will save lives but the effect adds up.
If you can then please wear one
care home staff last year were not wearing face masks so can someone work out how many old folk caught various infections and died because of this
May 11, 2020 -- 3:44PM, wondersobright wrote:
no thanksgo back to the science pre-rockerfella then you have a legit argument
You know the score,uncle Bill who is a full blown Rockefeller himself (posted link below) has his finger in all possible vaccine pies and all medical institutions with any clout are funded by The Rockefeller Foundation and connect nicely to uncle Bill and his manly missus (got a jaw like George Chuvalo and hands like Sonny Liston).
Here's a link from January he's openly boasting about his investments while the world is petty squabbling amongst itself these shytehawks are having us over.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/17/bill-gates-says-this-is-the-best-investment-he-has-ever-made.html
https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-chart.php?name=14634+nelson+rockefeller&kin=34818+bill+gates&via=36799+samuel+gore
https://m.facebook.com/UnitedforBernieII/posts/2724735720969564
Other countries were handing free masks out for people going into train/tube stations,it makes a mockery of the now changed "advice" to wear a mask. If the goverment were serious they would have made wearing one compulsory,why not?
Because 'compulsory' is not how we do things in this country.
If you want 'compulsory', there are plenty of other countries in the world happy to accommodate you.You can recognize them by the walls and minefields around them.
If you want 'compulsory', there are plenty of other countries in the world happy to accommodate you.You can recognize them by the walls and minefields around them.
It seems to be "compulsory" not to sunbathe in a park though?
I think it's ok to sunbathe in the park/on the beach as long as social distancing is observed. Erm, well I think so...
Well the science says it is now but it was not last week.
We must follow the science!
We must follow the science!
Seems to be very compulsory on planes now as well.
A very gentle u turn,slapping on the "mandatory" label now is at odds with the "advice" given months ago, is that how you do things in this country? needless deaths imo.
A very gentle u turn,slapping on the "mandatory" label now is at odds with the "advice" given months ago, is that how you do things in this country? needless deaths imo.
It's largely up to each individual what they do. They can now look at the circumstances and decide for themselves.
That's how we do things in this country.
That's how we do things in this country.
Ok, but weren't they told that masks were next to useless and that was the official advice?
May 12, 2020 -- 10:36AM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:
It's largely up to each individual what they do. They can now look at the circumstances and decide for themselves.That's how we do things in this country.
Sure, they can decide to load up everyone into the car and drive to anywhere they like in the UK.
Yes. Official advice turns out to be confused, changing from week to week and barely worth heeding.
That's why it's important to keep it just as advice rather than anything compulsory.
That's why it's important to keep it just as advice rather than anything compulsory.
Well, you can be compulsory arrested and fined if you don't follow the "advice". That doesn't suggest to me that you have much choice in the matter.
Wear a mask, don't wear a mask. Is it Wednesday yet?
Of course it might help if the government had got masks into the shops. Given the public needs only basic face covering, why didn't Boris get one or more of our textile firms to knock up a few million, to be sold via supermarkets? This would leave medical grade masks for the professionals. As it is we are headed for another toilet roll situation.
Of course it might help if the government had got masks into the shops. Given the public needs only basic face covering, why didn't Boris get one or more of our textile firms to knock up a few million, to be sold via supermarkets? This would leave medical grade masks for the professionals. As it is we are headed for another toilet roll situation.
Not for facemasks, which is what I thought we were talking about.
Other things did end up with the police getting involved. Thankfully we've now gone from Stay Home to Stay Alert, so that's become less of an issue. Anyone unhappy or confused about that can always simply move to the Nationalist Republic north of the border of course, where they can carry on feeling safe under the threat of arrest.
Other things did end up with the police getting involved. Thankfully we've now gone from Stay Home to Stay Alert, so that's become less of an issue. Anyone unhappy or confused about that can always simply move to the Nationalist Republic north of the border of course, where they can carry on feeling safe under the threat of arrest.
why didn't Boris get one or more of our textile firms to knock up a few million,
Or just leave it to those textile firms to make them anyway if there's really a demand for them. Why do you need Boris to make every decision for you?
Or just leave it to those textile firms to make them anyway if there's really a demand for them. Why do you need Boris to make every decision for you?
May 12, 2020 -- 10:55AM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:
Not for facemasks, which is what I thought we were talking about.Other things did end up with the police getting involved. Thankfully we've now gone from Stay Home to Stay Alert, so that's become less of an issue. Anyone unhappy or confused about that can always simply move to the Nationalist Republic north of the border of course, where they can carry on feeling safe under the threat of arrest.
I think you will find you can be arrested here in England just as easily.
@screaming from beneaththewaves -- the government is creating or increasing demand by requiring them to be worn. That is why it should have established a proper supply beforehand. It would not have been ruinously expensive and it is not as if the government has not had time to think about it.
Does that make you happier? That it's easier to be arrested than I believe (or hope) it is.
Ramruna: If making facemasks is not ruinously expensive, and people are demanding them, then manufacturers will make and supply them. There's a profit to be made after all.
If they don't, then it surely means that not enough people want to wear them.
If they don't, then it surely means that not enough people want to wear them.
Why would it?
You seem to be enthusiastically arguing that it's the case.
If I've misunderstood, and you're actually a supporter of the "just be sensible and don't get the law involved" approach, then I apologize.
I'm taking the dog out for a walk now. Hope all goes well...
You seem to be enthusiastically arguing that it's the case.
If I've misunderstood, and you're actually a supporter of the "just be sensible and don't get the law involved" approach, then I apologize.
I'm taking the dog out for a walk now. Hope all goes well...
Simple facts are they were very little masks in the country for the public to wear,the medical/care homes were short supplied,the public were sacrificed and told not to wear them and hooky advice was given out about them which has now changed.
The only reason thet aren't compulsory is there is still a lack of,you can get them in amazon from China and could be waiting til July now.
It isn't as you are trying to maintain a freedom of choice,that is disingenious.
The only reason thet aren't compulsory is there is still a lack of,you can get them in amazon from China and could be waiting til July now.
It isn't as you are trying to maintain a freedom of choice,that is disingenious.
May 12, 2020 -- 11:17AM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:
Why would it?You seem to be enthusiastically arguing that it's the case.If I've misunderstood, and you're actually a supporter of the "just be sensible and don't get the law involved" approach, then I apologize.I'm taking the dog out for a walk now. Hope all goes well...
On the contrary, you seem to think you can just do as you please.
Will the wearing of a face mask at the outset reduce the risk of infection? Absolutely YES.
Will the not wearing a face mask at the outset reduce the risk of infection? Absolutely NO.
At such, why not advice, recommend or encourage the public at the outset t wearing a face mask? What harm would that have done to the wearer or contraction/death rates?
But, we know the reason why the wearing of a face mask was not encouraged or recommended at the outset was because there would be direct competition for face masks with the NHS staff - the government were caught "napping" in their lack of preparation to tackle Covid-19. However, that did not stop some astute public members to acquire and wear a face mask at the outset copying/following the advice of governments in parts of the world already experiencing or experiencing the full wrath of Covid-19.
The moral of the story is: Do not take the advice of the government as gospel, but prudent to observe/follow the advice of government elsewhere as effects of Covid-19 are deadly and indiscriminate only minimised by an early well coordinated plan to tackle, contain and overcome this deadly virus.
Will the not wearing a face mask at the outset reduce the risk of infection? Absolutely NO.
At such, why not advice, recommend or encourage the public at the outset t wearing a face mask? What harm would that have done to the wearer or contraction/death rates?
But, we know the reason why the wearing of a face mask was not encouraged or recommended at the outset was because there would be direct competition for face masks with the NHS staff - the government were caught "napping" in their lack of preparation to tackle Covid-19. However, that did not stop some astute public members to acquire and wear a face mask at the outset copying/following the advice of governments in parts of the world already experiencing or experiencing the full wrath of Covid-19.
The moral of the story is: Do not take the advice of the government as gospel, but prudent to observe/follow the advice of government elsewhere as effects of Covid-19 are deadly and indiscriminate only minimised by an early well coordinated plan to tackle, contain and overcome this deadly virus.
The Police I have encountered while out drinking with friends have more or less apologised to me for asking me to move on when we have finished our drinks. We did ashley move from outside the pub because it was not a good look and could be viewed as a threat to the Po Po encouraging them to take action. What action they could have taken is beyond me although of course if I was black they could have tasered me
Drinking down by the water was much more relaxed in any case and less of an implied threat to their authority. I feel sorry for the Police.
"just be sensible and don't get the law involved" I am a supporter of that course of action and drinking with mates to protect my mental elf! Unfortunately this is not Sparta it is England. People don't like you having fun and even less like it when you are having fun and drinking alcohol.
Drinking down by the water was much more relaxed in any case and less of an implied threat to their authority. I feel sorry for the Police.
"just be sensible and don't get the law involved" I am a supporter of that course of action and drinking with mates to protect my mental elf! Unfortunately this is not Sparta it is England. People don't like you having fun and even less like it when you are having fun and drinking alcohol.
Im not wearing a MASK
Not because im not Dick Turpin but because i have this virus
What does the wearing the mask NOW help?
Nothing
Not because im not Dick Turpin but because i have this virus
What does the wearing the mask NOW help?
Nothing
DenzilPenberthy • May 12, 2020 2:09 AM BST
You know the score,uncle Bill who is a full blown Rockefeller himself (posted link below) has his finger in all possible vaccine pies and all medical institutions with any clout are funded by The Rockefeller Foundation and connect nicely to uncle Bill and his manly missus (got a jaw like George Chuvalo and hands like Sonny Liston).
mrs doubtfire
You know the score,uncle Bill who is a full blown Rockefeller himself (posted link below) has his finger in all possible vaccine pies and all medical institutions with any clout are funded by The Rockefeller Foundation and connect nicely to uncle Bill and his manly missus (got a jaw like George Chuvalo and hands like Sonny Liston).
mrs doubtfire
If one has the virus it's one's responsibility and the responsibility to others to self-isolate accordingly, or call 111 for advice; wearing a face mask could help to reduce (minimise) the spread of the virus (to others), but does not prevent one from contracting it (only minimise); the keys words are "reduced" and "prevent".
Exercising responsibility could mean the chance of one of your family, a relative or a friend contracting the virus even from an asymptomatic carrier is lesser thus resulting in a possible and lesser infection and death rate.
Exercising responsibility could mean the chance of one of your family, a relative or a friend contracting the virus even from an asymptomatic carrier is lesser thus resulting in a possible and lesser infection and death rate.
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