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By:
elisjohn
When: 23 May 20 14:17
i actually ran the 25 mins this morningCool, will give it a go tomorrow, doubt i,ll be able to do 45mins though
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 25 May 20 04:04
I advise against running. Impact back pain . I ran for yrs. I would find a football pitch. Walk a lap. Run a lap count the laps if you did ten. Next time do twelve. Then when yoh hit thirty. Try two laps running. One walk. Eventually you do all thirty laps running. Then expanded range. Never run with weight.  Running is dangerous if you have minor heart issues. I knew a guy. Fit as fk. No fat. Bruce lee type. Died in the great north run. You lose minerals in sweat.       Heart needs salts.  I learned to swim at thirty. Best thing I did. Can swim miles. No sweat? No impact. Strengthens every muscle. Swim for an hour non stop. Don't touch sides.   Fought weight. Had one good year. No carbs. No ssugar. Muscle power increases. But its risky. An elimination diet is dodgy. Eat natural foods.  raw porridge oats in yogurt or mousse . Provides silica for bones. Horses. Deer. Don't eat meat. Solid muscle animals. Lemon juice cheap vit C. Coconut oil. Seeds and almonds. Omega oils.    Diet is ninety percent. I ran for yrs with bad diet. Got nowhere. Fifteen yrs running. Two years on stepper and aerobics. Fifteen yrs manual labour. Swimming. Still over weight. Carbs do damage . Antibiotics damahe gut. Less training. Pure food.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 25 May 20 04:12
Meant to add . Young guys eat protein to bulk up. Always use fish. Chicken protein clogs kidneys. Never buy vitamins as they are chalk. Kidney deposits. Many muscle builders have dodgy kidneys. Steroids heart issues. Looks great. Flo Jo died young.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 25 May 20 04:13
Meant to add . Young guys eat protein to bulk up. Always use fish. Chicken protein clogs kidneys. Never buy vitamins as they are chalk. Kidney deposits. Many muscle builders have dodgy kidneys. Steroids heart issues. Looks great. Flo Jo died young.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 25 May 20 04:13
road running (up and down hills etc) its not good for us, too strenuous on our legs and joints, lower back gets battered as well

In fact I'd agree with zorro, my dad who ran for years and ran the marathon 4 times (bonkers in my opinion) now struggles to climb the stairs in his mid 50s, he's tortured his body

I started noticing less energy and being massivaly fatigued at night when I ran so I packed up with it, now I walk and go into light jog on the flat part of the walk for a mile or so

Feel much better now, more energy etc
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 25 May 20 04:18
All this hill running nonsense is utter rubbish from experience as well, I'd do it to try and improve flat speed but found my pace was slowing

I think its better to have energy over "stamina", stamina is pointless if you have no energy to speed up

Endurance running really is overrated.

Agree with zorro find a football pitch and do laps, speed up and slow down etc, you'll find yourself enjoying it better as well
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 May 20 07:46
Some good advice there Zorro. We are embarking on a good food over cheap food regime. It started with a good wine over lots of wine admission!

Can’t say I like running certainly without a ball to chase and am not a swimmer although I do got a P.A.D.I certificate. Whilst I don’t disagree with you about swimming I would say running is the best exercise use you can do for weight loss and fitness. Calories burned must be higher than anything else like for like time wise. I can see where swimming is supporting the body weight but running usually strengthens muscles, tendons and bone density. I do wish I could swim though!

Hill running is excellent for  speed work. Short intense 50-60 meter sprints up a steepish hill, jog back down slowly and go again is excellent for speed. I prefer interval training to long runs.

Being tired after training is normal but you should have more and more energy the rest of the time.
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 May 20 09:01
i failed on my 45 minute flat run, went this morning and did 38 min, if i hadnt stopped to check the time i reckon i wpould have done it, but when i stopped that was it, i went on a slow pace, no excuses and im bloody disappointed.
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 May 20 09:04
whispering , agree with what you say about sprintinh 50m to even 80 m  for speed, but did you know its even better to sprint downhill,
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 May 20 09:10
im actually looking forward to thursday session, 12x60 sec with 60 sec recovery( maybe bit more for me ) hoping to do in 60 seconds , maybe 250 meters  was going to say 400 meters, that was what i did as reps in earlir years
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 May 20 09:31
I didn’t know that! I know walking downhill is harder and probably better for the muscles. Never thought about sprinting downhill! Like running down I would have thought would be better because you need the check your speed but sprinting, why? Gravity Shirley is not helping you fitness wise, is it about elongating the muscles when running really fast! I might try it when I have lost my lockdown weight! Until then it is cycling!

I cancelled my gym by coincidence at the end of February. I might consider renewing In October. I think weights are important for older people particularly as I don’t do yoga ( yet! ).
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 May 20 09:55
get your leg action moving quicker,. read it somewhere years back, ( i hate running downhill even slowly coz of knee) thats why the derby at epsom is such a test for the perfect horse
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 May 20 09:56
i shouldnt say even better downhill, but its in part of some sprinters training, and i dont mean  a hell of a decline just slightly
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 May 20 10:21
Makes a lot of sense as I think with running long distances you lose speed!
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 May 20 10:32
i cant wait for gym to open to do some weights, will really improve my physique, would love to do circuit training, but too much jumping about, ie bunny hops etc im too old for that now.i did do 100 press ups the other day, set of 25, 20,15,12,10,8, 6 ,4, 2 and 1 long hold, with few mins/ secs  rest between sets i was cheating i did them on a sitting bench  much easier.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 May 20 10:44
I am going to enjoy the great outdoors till October. Must start on press up and sit ups! I have a light dumb bell set
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 May 20 10:58
im going to try and go to goodwood in july ( if allowed with lockdown etc  ) and do a bit of walking on the sussex south downs , along with nice country drives.( havent told the missus yet, shes a blackpool/ benidorm type)Laugh
By:
elisjohn
When: 28 May 20 15:01
done the 12 x 60 sec with 1 min rest this morning, and did around 250 meters was only about 75 % pace, but i did take a
bout 90 secs rest between runs.

today i went under the 100 kgs first time in years, 99.5 kgs  about 15 st 10 lbs.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 28 May 20 17:27
Wow, wish I could do a 60 sec 400 now!

I am finding it tough riding a bike up a hill atm! How the hell do you cycle up big hills? Anyone Lycra louts got any tips?
By:
elisjohn
When: 28 May 20 17:59
no , i did avg of 250 m in 60 secs , whisper, i wish i could do 400 m in a minute as well. i was actually watching a prog last night, and it showed the wrynose pass/hardknott pass in the lakes, that would be a tough one on bike for you.
there you are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFtVtdbx8Q
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 28 May 20 18:13
tfft!

I was starting to think I am getting old! I am 57. So you did 12 x 250m

Still pretty good. I want to knock the shackles off but still am carrying my lockdown booze cabinet on my stomach! I would be happy doing 10 x 60m at three quarter pace right now.
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