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Fat bastards to be told to stay/work at home..... and get even fatter
Fat bastards to be told to stay/work at home..... and get even fatter
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I believe they stated anyone with a bmi of over 40 was at risk, although you could be at that level yet you're a weightlifter without an ounce of fat on you.
The index is years out of date and not fit for purpose, perhaps. Asking obese people to stay at home without wiring their jaws up is a death sentence. |
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Mind you, enough has been said about Gary wiltshire elsewhere.
The guy has been moaning that he can't get motivated to leave the house and now the government is reaffirming his position. |
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The index is years out of date and not fit for purpose, perhaps.
That's definitely the case for people who've gained muscle mass lifting weights,the Rugby player analogy is the easiest to understand. |
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Other factors are hormones in our food meat,dairy,fish etc. and hormones in our water especially phyto estrogens which very young girls are susceptible to warping their rate of development.
Their are also creams which contain hormones which seip through the skin which do similar. |
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The above comments are relating to the index and why we on the whole are bigger I'm not excusing the lazy greedy fat types
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I've never seen a fat person in a famine area, has anyone? To me FAT(T) = convenient food = over indulgence/inactivity. If unconvinced just look at the new foreigners who've also adopted the diet ad lifestyle of their host.
I'd like to see the NHS start charging the obesity brigade. |
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I sometimes think it doesn't really matter what you eat or even how much of it. It's whether or not you carry it home from the shops. That's something virtually nobody does any more.
You look back to the sixties and seventies, when hardly anyone was overweight, and one big difference is that sugar consumption was far higher back then, but it didn't matter because housewives carried those heavy bags of sugar home with them. The lack of refrigerators also made a difference. My family couldn't afford one until the eighties, which meant walking to the shops and back every day, and carrying lots of heavy, tinned items to boot. These days some people might walk or jog or cycle for exercise, and some might drive to the gym to lift weights. But, outside of a building site, no one anywhere carries anything from A to B any longer. And certainly not on a daily or regular basis. The energy expended on carrying something is way more than that used merely to walk the same distance or lift the same item. |
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Lots of good points which I agree with,sugar isn't the enemy though the thinnest people in the world and the most underweight imo. 'healthy' people are raw food fruitarians who exist on between 80-95% sugar.
Walter Kempner reversed diabetes and many other chronic illnesses on a diet consisting on white rice,fruit juice,fruit and table sugar officially in 1939 and he did this with people who's life was in urgent danger from their conditions. The standard consisted of around 565 grams carbs 25 grams protein 5g fat https://www.drmcdougall.com/2013/12/31/walter-kempner-md-founder-of-the-rice-diet/ Fat,animal protein and sugar together is the problem i.e our 'balanced' diets and the processed garbage ontop |
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screaming from beneaththewaves
Sorry screaming misread your post about the sugar agree 100% with your post |
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signing in!
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I stopped reading at "sugar consumption far higher in the 70s than what it is now
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wolf3011 I've found articles which confirm what screaming says
https://www.google.com/search?q=did+we+consume+more+sugar+in+the+70s+compared+to+now&client=firefox-b-d&ei=kEKzXuSJAYWOlwSK37mYBA&start=10&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwjkkajTrKDpAhUFx4UKHYpvDkMQ8tMDegQIDRAz&biw=1129&bih=654 |
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 As illustrated by the above chart, which shows yearly average sugar consumption for a person in the UK, sugar reached its high point of consumption around 1980 https://chocolateclass.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/a-sweet-conquest-how-sugar-overtook-britain/ |
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Interesting to see sugar consumption is going down.my take on it is that yes we are less manual than we were which is one thing but the quality of the food we eat is the other.
It is at times hard to imagine how big our soldiers were back in the day. Try on WW2 uniforms or and especially 19th Century uniforms. The food we are getting now is not great but it is abundant! We don’t work on the land. Mass produced food is generally tasteless and when it becomes convenience food there is little goodness in it either. To replace the lost taste sugar, salt and fat are added. This is why we are a nation of fat bastards oh and we are lazy fat bastards at that. |
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This is the only period in the entire history of the world that the poor are fat.
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Food now is cheap, abundant and convenient - and most of it tastes really good. People don't eat because they
are hungry, they eat because it is a nice thing to do. Portion size has gone out the window. When I were a lad.....food was cooked and eaten at home by your Mom. How much would you have to spend now if you were eating out now to get a meal which involves vegetables. Rubbish food is cheap. |
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The sugar chart is interesting. I don't know many people that have sugar in tea or coffee, but I am sure in earlier generations 2 spoons per cup was normal
and, over a week, that would add up. |
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as people know if been to states ( and noticed in uk now ) , big portions and if dont finish them in restaurants get them in a box to takeaway. why not littler portions ?
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When I was young a quarter ponder was considered a big burger and I had trouble finishing one. Nowadays a half pounder seems to be the norm or maybe two half pounders in some cases.
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The abundance of food has taken people off the land and freed them up to make money for rich people.
The quality of food is one of the main issues for me. This covid-19 / Corona is just a start point for people being cooped up too close together and add in the disgusting treatment of live and dead animals in close proximity with each other and humans has lead us to where we are now. Further to that it will happen again and it may well be far worse. Covid-19 has been a mild warning from nature. What is also interesting is watching the World recover from us! We are not destroying the planet we are destroying the human race. |
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The average Briton consumes 50 per cent more calories than they realise, according to the first estimates from the Office for National Statistics. The new data show that men are the worst at kidding themselves - typically consuming 1,000 more calories than they estimate every day - while women eat about 800 calories more than they account for.
And the more people eat, the less reliable their estimates are, the research found. Experts said the delusion occurs because people do not like to “be taken for slobs” - and ended up lying to themselves. The revelation comes as Public Health England (PHE) prepares to launch a calorie counting campaign, as part of efforts to combat Britain’s obesity epidemic. |
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Jack Hacksaw07 May 20 08:22Joined: 08 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 5,176 | Blogger: Jack Hacksaw's blog
The sugar chart is interesting. I don't know many people that have sugar in tea or coffee, but I am sure in earlier generations 2 spoons per cup was normal and, over a week, that would add up. Exactly. I was brought up with two spoons of sugar in my tea. It was unthinkable to drink it with any less. Also worth remembering that sugar is an excellent preservative, which is another reason so much more of it used to be consumed in the days before everyone had a fridge. My mother used to slave for days through the autumn making jam with bag after bag of sugar. (And runner beans used to be canned in old pickle jars with vast quantities of salt - people would have a fit if they saw how much of that we used to consume.) But, as I said, it was irrelevant. The fact that she was walking a mile to the shops and back every day carrying these 2 lb bags of Tate & Lyle left her as thin as a rake all her life. Especially when you add the bags of caster sugar she needed for the rock cakes she used to bake virtually every day. (Being allowed to lick out the sugary bowl afterwards - what a blissful memory.) |
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It's a lot easier to control your weight through what you eat than however much exercise you do.
Exercise is helpful but the calories and the nature of the food consumed is critical. The biggest delusion ever would be thinking fat people don't in nearly all cases eat too much. |
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licking the bowl! loved it!
My mum used to make burgers, they were called hamburgers back in the day. They would be hand rolled of course although she did ashley get a press at some point because of well you know why...kids wanted their hamburgers to be flat and the same shape as birdseye with absolutely no taste! Well my mum's burgers were odd shapes, none flat like Birdseye. She put onions and green peppers in them. When fried they broke open and fat oused out of the cracks. To make it worse she made her own tomato ketchup with garlic. It wasn't smooth and tasteless and full of sugar like Heinze so of course I hated it. Tears well up when I think of those days and those burgers! The tears ashley fall down my cheeks when I go into " gastro pubs " and have to pay £16 for their House Burger. I am absolutely inconsolable when I have to pay £13 for just an ordinary but decent burger in a non gastro pub! What I would give for my mum's old home made hamburgers now? Easily worth £20 a throw when you add in the home made tomato and garlic ketchup! |
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Ha. Ha. Just this minute finished making a carrot cake and cleaned the bowl out and ate it....absolutely delicious - and the first time in years.
My wife would have stopped me...raw egg and all that..had she been there! |
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 Good for you! I challenge you to drink some orange juice straight out of the carton in front of her! Jokes aside we have huaoge economic problems in front of us that have been ignored by the Government. Next chapter of this farce is about to start. |
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When I were a lad.....food was cooked and eaten at home by your Mom.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/11242764/coronavirus-girl-meltdown-mcdonalds-nandos-shut-home-cooking/ |
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Also you had a choice, you either eat it or you don't. None of this cooking different meals for each member of the family.
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In my house you had great choice eat it or else!
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Couple of mega packs of crisps and half trolley of fizzy pop.
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fcek me if we didn't get our " pop " off the Corona van every Tuesday!
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Crisps. The barometer of our obesity.
We might have had ONE single bag of crisps a week, maybe with a bottle of pop on a Saturday. Now, even in supermarkets, you can buy them buy the BOX, maybe 36.... |
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Towards the end of last year I remember watching a great documentary on the BBC commemorating the 1969 Woodstock Festival(which I would recommend any music lover to watch) - one of my residing memories of the programme was that in all the half million or so people there wasn't a fatty to be seen !!
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which to me suggest less to do with exercise and more to do with food and additives!
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Its a perfect storm. Less physical work, more sedentary work, less public transport/cycle/walk, more private cars, less home cooking, more takeaways,
less meat and veg, more carbs, more additives, less participation in sport, more participation in gaming, less going out, more staying in. When was the word 'snack' invented? I can't remember ever having a 'snack' when I was a kid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeaZ3DEQEyo From 10 seconds in. Not a fatty to be seen. |
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It is the food jack!
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I'd agree that the food is the number one.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2JNFzsNscU
A great song from the Macc lads - fat bastard! |