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Plandemic Documentary: The Hidden Agenda Behind Covid-19
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She had work published on her CFS theory and she retracted bits and then completely withdrew it. It was discredited by several groups that looked at it. She sat in on a larger follow up study which completely refuted her claims, she admitted it herself with the findings.
For me that was a reason perhaps not to rush in and believe all of her allegations seen just from her side. I've looked into her allegations and claims of her own worth regarding work she has done and have found NOTHING of proof behind any of them. |
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IMO she has the potential to do much more harm than good brainwashing people into thinking vaccines do more harm than good or in many cases don't even work.
Unless I see some actual proof scientifically with any of her claims about vaccines, she is someone I place very little weight in regarding where I would care to get my information from. |
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Unless I see some actual proof scientifically with any of her claims about vaccines, she is someone I place very little weight in regarding where I would care to get my information from.
You are far more generous than I am stridingedge. I consider her a failed, rogue, lying scientist who got booted out and resorted to being a conspiritard. Probably a more lucrative career though. |
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I usually watch all the Icke interviews, just to keep myself in the loop, but his 'podcast' with Alex Jones last week just made me laugh at how many adverts, and how much time Jones spent shilling his wares. The last few minutes are just him going on about how you can buy all his stuff that was sold out
 Mate sent this Plandemic thing to watch, but I've been busy with work and hadn't watched it. He posted about it on Facebook and saw this posted in reply to it, and upon doing a bit of research I think I'll just save the time and watch Uncle David's next sitdown with that mug Brian Rose. "This lady is the "go to" doctor for conspiracy theorists. If you have a conspiracy theory and you need a doctor's input, Judy will provide. The stuff she claims about vaccines and "Big pharma" in the vast majority of cases is just flat out wrong. Most vaccines administered these days are off patent and very cheap to produce. Too cheap, in fact. Many pharmaceutical companies don't want to manufacture them because there's no profit in it and they have to be compelled or incentivised by states to continue producing them. It's strange how Dr. Mikovits hasn't published any of her "current research" in ANY scientific or medical journals. (I say "ANY" because there are some dodgy AF journals out there that'll publish anything.) Sure, she's unlikely to feature in the Lancet any time soon since her earlier published work has been discredited. (No other labs were able to reproduce her claims and eventually the paper was retracted). Dr. Mikovits could attempt to redeem herself by publishing good, empirical evidence for her claims in an obscure journal... It will have to be an obscure one since the big, well read journals tend to avoid publishing things by discredited researchers... If her evidence and methods are good and fair then bigger labs will attempt to reproduce it and eventually it would end up in a main-stream journal. But Dr. Mikovits doesn't do this, instead, she appears on YouTube videos claiming to be a victim of the "Deep State" and "Big Pharma". "Big Pharma" is a nasty business, don't get me wrong but for practically none of the reasons mentioned in this... eugh... "documentary". The pharmaceutical industry continues to get away with most of its nastiness to this day because people continue to focus on crazy nonsense. The actual evil is so much more mundane and boring. It is well discussed in the book Bad Pharma by Dr. Ben Goldacre. Go give that a read (or a listen on audiobooks)." |
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Hilarious! You clearly haven’t watched it so why not be honest? I asked you about Fauci and Wuhan and you completely miss the point...
If you discredit her and are unnecessarily rude, you obviously discredit the doctors also featured? I suppose all doctors who disagree with you are whack jobs. |
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So you didn’t watch it when you said you did. The link between the NIAID and Wuhan is in the video.
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The doctors’ points couldn’t be clearer. The lady you’re so unpleasant towards is only part of the story.
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Injera
List the claims this woman makes that you or I or anyone can go and back up with evidence based research. That's all I ask. |
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Do facemasks activate covid 19? |
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Injera
Stop talking in riddles. Say something in plain English or is that beyond you. |
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eg Have vaccines killed millions?
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Where is the EVIDENCE that Italy's Covid 19 problem is linked to a vaccine or a dog coronavirus?
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Claims SHE makes? I saw her quote the CDC, AMA, NIAID and doctors around the States. Oh and Dr Birx...
Re masks, her point is if you have covid, it may harm you to wear a mask as it may lead to a higher viral load. She states ventilators can be counterproductive which is now more widely accepted . Also that hospitals receive 13k for each covid patient and 39k if they go on a ventilator. If you can find anyone who disputes that last point I shall be glad to hear. |
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Where is the evidence that microbes in seawater are of benefit to Covid 19 patients?
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She said to stop people going to the beach is insanity given for centuries it’s been considered good for health and immunity.
If you could just watch the damn video...... |
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There is no vaccine currently on the schedule for any RNA virus that works.
evidence... |
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Also that hospitals receive 13k for each covid patient and 39k if they go on a ventilator. If you can find anyone who disputes that last point I shall be glad to hear.
I'll dispute that. She was talking US Medevac. |
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Why would you close the beach? You’ve got sequences in the soil, in the sand. You’ve got healing microbes in the ocean in the salt water. That’s insanity.
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Thanks striding, those were the words.
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Mikovits: It started really when I was 25 years old, and I was part of the team that isolated HIV from the saliva and blood of the patients from France where [virologist Luc] Montagnier had originally isolated the virus. … Fauci holds up the publication of the paper for several months while Robert Gallo writes his own paper and takes all the credit, and of course patents are involved. This delay of the confirmation, you know, literally led to spreading the virus around, you know, killing millions.
At the time of HIV’s discovery, Mikovits was a lab technician in Francis Ruscetti’s lab at NCI and had yet to receive her Ph.D. There is no evidence that she was part of the team that first isolated the virus. Her first published paper, co-authored with Ruscetti, was on HIV and published in May 1986, 2 years after Science published four landmark papers that linked HIV (then called HTLV-III by Gallo’s lab) to AIDS. Ruscetti’s first paper on HIV appeared in August 1985. There is no evidence that Fauci held up either paper or that this led to the death of millions. |
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Mikovits: Heads of our entire HHS [Department of Health and Human Services] colluded and destroyed my reputation and the Department of Justice and the [Federal Bureau of Investigation] sat on it, and kept that case under seal.
evidence or more of the same unsubstantiated accusation? |
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Interviewer: Her 1991 doctoral thesis revolutionized the treatment of HIV/AIDS.
Mikovits’s Ph.D. thesis, “Negative Regulation of HIV Expression in Monocytes,” had no discernible impact on the treatment of HIV/AIDS. |
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Early on in her interview for Plandemic, Mikovits describes being arrested and portrays it as a false arrest with no warrant and no search warrant for her house (there were warrants), carried out for no reason other than to silence her
After police in Ventura County, California, arrested and jailed Judy Mikovits on 18 November, they gave few details about the felony charges levied against the well-known chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) researcher. According to the Ventura County Sheriff, she was a fugitive from justice arrested on a warrant from Washoe County, Nevada, and was "not bailable." Now ScienceInsider has learned that her felony arrest warrant was issued by the Reno Justice Court in Washoe County. The District Attorney there has charged Mikovits with "possession of stolen property," according to a document filed with the court, and "unlawful taking of computer data, equipment, supplies, or other computer related property." Mikovits's former employer, the Whittemore Peterson Institute (WPI) for Neuro-Immune Disease in Reno, also filed court documents yesterday that further shed light on the arrest |
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Injera you're wasting your time repeating your posts
Mark Twain wisely said "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." |
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Yes us idiots trying to look at the bigger picture rather than swallow everything whole from a one sided youtube interview in advance of a book coming out.
We are the real sheep, baaaaa. |
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It's about time Denzil you started another thread about weak people running away as you will no doubt do soon.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3190554/
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I did a runner also so not knocking you for that
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Of course there are some examples I'm speaking in relation to this case Denzil and generally the principle that scientists have freedoms to run studies and post their findings.As opposed to if they get close to unmasking some massive corruption truths with their work they get shut down or imprisoned.
This woman makes some extremely lofty claims that vaccines have killed millions with NO PROOF, her own work was rubbished but she has done very well with her marketing for her latest book. |
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They have to rubbish and discredit ALL WHISTLEBLOWERS and establishment nuisances it's the norm.
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*ALL GENUINE WHISTLEBLOWERS*
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They're hardly going to advertise all that's wrong with vaccines when it's likely vaccination is the main reason for a global pandemic - follow the money it leads to Uncle Bill and the Rockerfellers.
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