Ferguson quits!

May 5, 2020 -- 7:55PM, Angoose wrote:

Professor Neil Ferguson has resigned from the government's scientific advisory group SAGE after reports he broke lockdown rules.The leading epedmiologist said in a statement announcing his departure: "I accept I made an error of judgement and took the wrong course of action. I have therefore stepped back from my involvement in SAGE."I acted in the belief that I was immune, having tested positive for coronavirus and completely isolated myself for almost two weeks after developing symptoms."I deeply regret any undermining of the clear messages around the continued need for social distancing to control this devastating epidemic."The government guidance is unequivocal, and is there to protect all of us."

we are all in this together bar one

makes a kooont out of 3 homes ,tour of uk jennrick,

May 5, 2020 -- 9:16PM, 1st time poster wrote:

makes a kooont out of 3 homes ,tour of uk jennrick,

You mean 4 homes antiques roadshow Jenrick

has bobby claimed the ten grand?

Looks like we've got our fall guy

more to follow

Ms Staats, a left-wing campaigner

She and her husband live together with their two children in a £1.9 million home

There, in two sentences, is where the left has completely lost my vote.

May 5, 2020 -- 10:14PM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:

Ms Staats, a left-wing campaignerShe and her husband live together with their two children in a £1.9 million homeThere, in two sentences, is where the left has completely lost my vote.

Anyone that lives in London has a realistic chance that their home will be in the million pound bracket, irrespective of which political party they support.

pp that is nonsense, there are about 3/4 million such houses in the whole country.

There, in two sentences, is where the left has completely lost my vote.

...and there was me thinking the left lost your vote when the NHS lost your testicle!

In other words, most people can't live in London, because they can't afford it. So why the hell should they support London politics?

Bollocks or Brexit

Sounds like you are caught astride the issue!

I come down firmly on one side.

fair play for your sense of humour about it sfbtw

Tbf I am caught on the issue. I think the EU will self destruct but we need to stand up to China, America and probably India at some point soon

aye, we can forget Wales

To be honest, it makes absolutely no difference, jollyswagman. As the OurNHS doctor who misplaced it said: "You only actually need one. The other's just a spare. Ho ho ho."

the thing I will say for this guy is that he is not responsible for the world's lockdown so has simply followed the herd as the UK were one of the last major European countries to do so, truth is whoever was in his position probably would have done the same quite simply because I believe the government would have chosen somebody who would have indicated to them the recommendation they really wanted anyway. He is the fall guy.

Would have been better had Jenrick being shagging Ferguson in his Hereford home not his Nottingham family home or his London family home

he is just a fall guy, scientists give a range of actions - do a and we think b will happen, do x and we think y will happen. it is nonsense for the government to hide behind scientific advisers, all they do is advise, governments govern.

A threesome with that Scotch one who resigned.

May 5, 2020 -- 10:22PM, jollyswagman wrote:

pp that is nonsense, there are about 3/4 million such houses in the whole country.

Well, maybe right enough but there are now 5,329 streets in London with an average house price of £1 million+, according to Zoopla figures released in September 2019.

This Ferguson revelation feels like the moment when the crisis peaks. It's just got too silly now. People are finally laughing at it. The holiday's over.

Well if you don’t t live in one of the 5,329 million plus homes why would you support a party that makes billionaires richer at everyone else’s expense

My Furlough holiday is not. Planning my trip to Malaysia. Do you think October is too early? It rains more in November!

if i was a scientitst - advising the government (god forbid)  i'd be very wary about standing next to a government minister in the next few weeks. Unfortunately their egos are like their bollox

Et tu Brutus?

I wouldn’t stand too close to Dorris either,!

biggins, i fear the rest of the world will discriminate against us when things get better

i wouldn't stand too close to a bus either

or an umbrella

A lot of these million pound streets in London are confined to small pockets of exclusive areas, such as Hampstead, the square mile, South Kensington, Highgate, many would probably own more than 1 home.

Looks like Professor Nicholson has had his 'Mad Cow Moment'.

Redwood failing to answer the question, more Toryisms and lies

she's pretty decent tbf

Absolutely crazy given that Ferguson knows more than anyone else how serious this coronavirus pandemic is .

............. Or maybe not if he is totally aware as to the extent of this whole scam

Sums this whole f*****g charade up in one incident.

DONT DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY

FFS, When will one of these c***s is authority come forward and tell the truth

Jenrick did not resign for a similar breach

If one of these crooks actually comes forward and tells the truth, sacking or resigning, will be the least of his/her problems such is the state of everything.

ffs. we now have a soppy c*** on GMB named Jon Sweeney fcuk nose what he is an expert in, stating that furgy is a hero ?????

the arrogance of Sweeney tells you all you need to know about this profession

Who is he Bap ? What is he an expert in ( in theory )

they couldn't arrange a picnic without 2,000 emails 800 memos & a few trips to Geneva, The Seychelles & beyond

no idea what his specialist subject is JW; probably Mormon expertise

Leftwing campaigner,
probably wasn’t just his knob he was giving her but also some juicy titbits from inside No10, surely no one believes she was there just for this guy’s body, she probably found the conversations far more interesting than the sex, straight out of the KGB operations manual.

“Open relationship” that’s where you both agree to shag anyone with influence\connections.

vaguely remember him from the BBC years ago; a wannabee John Pilger as i recall

ok. I had never heard of him. Just another narrative roll out i suppose

Expect another big corona related story today to help bury this latest fiasco

aye Herbie might resign on Sky in an hour or so (hopefully)

Right , i have this on. Hope Icke rings in

Has Ferguson been fined! first question!

Should he be prosecuted!

i was gonna ask summat similar last night; but my thoughts were regarding manslaughter

" many people who have the corona virus also have other medical conditions "

Well you dont say

you just cannot believe these numpties some/most of the time

the times seem quite happy with their number of 50,000 deaths ,front page everyday,so even after 6, looks like upto 9 weeks of lockdown,this 66,000 number which was ridiculed 3 weeks ago,at least on times front page could well be reached, so if everything was left open to carry on as normal for those 9 weeks,i cant see how anyone can deny the number of deaths might not have reached the worst case scenario of 500,000,which it was highlighted as, but would have gone into the 200,000 plus,which takes even the under 45,s number been highlighted in all todays papers into the 3,000 plus numbers

LIES, DAMN LIES AND STATISTICS

THERE, THATS CRACKED IT

Leftwing campaigner,
probably wasn’t just his knob he was giving her but also some juicy titbits from inside No10, surely no one believes she was there just for this guy’s body, she probably found the conversations far more interesting than the sex, straight out of the KGB operations manual.

“Open relationship” that’s where you both agree to shag anyone with influence\connections.

Works both ways. If Ferguson finds a bird who's agitating to stop Brexit and bring down the 'far right' so attractive, then who's to say his advice to the government on the virus was necessarily objective? Is it just coincidence that he recommended a policy that has crashed the economy?

if 80% of the population get the virus at some point the economy crashes itself

Here are the named contributors to the Imperial College report

Neil M Ferguson, Daniel Laydon, Gemma Nedjati-Gilani, Natsuko Imai, Kylie Ainslie, Marc Baguelin,
Sangeeta Bhatia, Adhiratha Boonyasiri, Zulma Cucunubá, Gina Cuomo-Dannenburg, Amy Dighe, Ilaria
Dorigatti, Han Fu, Katy Gaythorpe, Will Green, Arran Hamlet, Wes Hinsley, Lucy C Okell, Sabine van
Elsland, Hayley Thompson, Robert Verity, Erik Volz, Haowei Wang, Yuanrong Wang, Patrick GT Walker,
Caroline Walters, Peter Winskill, Charles Whittaker, Christl A Donnelly, Steven Riley, Azra C Ghani.

Are they all in on the left wing conspiracy

Not sure... most are probably away on holiday with somebody elses wife or husband

Looks like another excuse for the governmet to play blame game and release the economy,left wing campaigner do they not think people see through this utter bollox..

the most telling sentence in all this ,and someone will pull me sharpish if I,m wrong, is,

cummings been accused of trying to influence sage into telling the government to go into lockdown,

so it was the left wing,.momentum supporting ,Brexit leading,cummings who want us lockdowned,

obviously panicing after been accused of wanting to follow herd immunity

Time to find as many to blame as possible,the mugs will believe it and then we can do what we want again,so predictable..

Here are the named contributors to the Imperial College report

Neil M Ferguson, Daniel Laydon, Gemma Nedjati-Gilani, Natsuko Imai, Kylie Ainslie, Marc Baguelin,
Sangeeta Bhatia, Adhiratha Boonyasiri, Zulma Cucunubá, Gina Cuomo-Dannenburg, Amy Dighe, Ilaria
Dorigatti, Han Fu, Katy Gaythorpe, Will Green, Arran Hamlet, Wes Hinsley, Lucy C Okell, Sabine van
Elsland, Hayley Thompson, Robert Verity, Erik Volz, Haowei Wang, Yuanrong Wang, Patrick GT Walker,
Caroline Walters, Peter Winskill, Charles Whittaker, Christl A Donnelly, Steven Riley, Azra C Ghani.

Are they all in on the left wing conspiracy


Hmm ...

is that Jon Sweeney the same cretin who destroyed Panorama with his garbage OTT WUM presenting?

I heard the eugenics man toby young on itv this morning saying we listen to much to scientists,but he,d have loved to have been on sage committee giving his opinion, its like his politics he just doesn't like it when it disagrees with his opinion

Wonder if it is purely coincidence this story dropped yesterday

Everything about this Telegraph story & the ensuing flood of right-wing hate for "Dr Doom" on social media screams that this is a *political* operation mounted by people who want an early end to lockdown(nap)..

that was the sweeny fellas argument in same debate with toby young

Ferguson "I made an error of judgement" ,
Was he referring to Foot and Mouth , BSE , SARS or COVID-19 mortality projection ?

Good stuff reynard

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Here are the named contributors to the Imperial College report

Neil M Ferguson, Daniel Laydon, Gemma Nedjati-Gilani, Natsuko Imai, Kylie Ainslie, Marc Baguelin,
Sangeeta Bhatia, Adhiratha Boonyasiri, Zulma Cucunubá, Gina Cuomo-Dannenburg, Amy Dighe, Ilaria
Dorigatti, Han Fu, Katy Gaythorpe, Will Green, Arran Hamlet, Wes Hinsley, Lucy C Okell, Sabine van
Elsland, Hayley Thompson, Robert Verity, Erik Volz, Haowei Wang, Yuanrong Wang, Patrick GT Walker,
Caroline Walters, Peter Winskill, Charles Whittaker, Christl A Donnelly, Steven Riley, Azra C Ghani.

Are they all in on the left wing conspiracy

^

Who wrote the thousands of lines of computer code and refused to release them?
Who insisted that 'the UK is different' so has an IFR of 0.9% even though it is 0.2% to 0.36% else where?

The numbers did not work out for him after other countries did not do lockdown and were just fine.

It was becoming embarrassing him going in the media standing by his numbers and forecasts.

He had to go so no more questions could be asked on why we locked down and we could climb out of it.

I do not think we will get any of those other names from Imperial on the media defending it.

He had to go so no more questions could be asked on why we locked down and we could climb out of it.




Quite, this is nothing more than scapegoating. Telegraph has been sitting on it for a month. We reach the record deaths in Europe and a concerted effort in the rest of the paper to lift the lockdown so it was the right time to knife him.

Who knew 1.01,tories same old tricks i wonder who else will be on the list next to blame to try and get johnson off the hook,you can predict every move by every fcuk up.

Definite dirty tricks from Team Boris - using their pet rotweiler the Torygraph. Wonder who was doing the spying on Ferguson?

Scotland Yard will not take any action against Prof Neil Ferguson
Scotland Yard said Prof Ferguson had accepted responsibility for his error so they will not take further action. A statement for the force said:

"We remain committed to our role in supporting adherence to Government guidance and have made it clear that our starting position is explaining the need to follow the regulations with anyone who is in breach in order to keep people safe and protect the NHS.

It is clear in this case that whilst this behaviour is plainly disappointing, Professor Ferguson has accepted that he made an error of judgement and has taken responsibility for that.

We therefore do not intend to take any further action."

What about the women who left her home and traveled across London when she thought her husband actually had the virus?

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Who knew 1.01,tories same old tricks i wonder who else will be on the list next to blame to try and get johnson off the hook,you can predict every move by every fcuk up.
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Definite dirty tricks from Team Boris - using their pet rotweiler the Torygraph. Wonder who was doing the spying on Ferguson?

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Trump as well. He quoted the Ferguson report to justify his lockdown.

Trump has no power to either impose or lift a lockdown. That is the responsibility of state governors.

Interesting you should say that because early on the press were trying to get him to invoke some sort of power to lockdown places like Florida.

He certainly quoted Ferguson's numbers early on in the crisis.

quotes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0bbDK6WZ_w

May 6, 2020 -- 1:53PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

Interesting you should say that because early on the press were trying to get him to invoke some sort of power to lockdown places like Florida.He certainly quoted Ferguson's numbers early on in the crisis.

It is my understanding that I have simply noted the powers contained within the US legal system.

lol, what an eejit to just blindly quote Ferguson's numbers instead of that of his own experts.

Was much more interested in quotes of the press trying to get him to invoke some sort of power to lockdown places like Florida though actually.

As far as I know, the Imperial College numbers are if nothing at all had changed. I.e if there had been concerts, football games with fans, people smooching strangers on the streets, hugging, boasting about shaking hands etc. Something they deemed unlikely to be the case.

They also didn't vouch for a complete shutdown that prevented people from going to work, but more of a middle ground.

Thedailymash

Why all the sexy ladies want epidemiologists, by Professor Neil Ferguson
6th May 2020

by Professor Neil Ferguson, faculty of medicine, Imperial College, London

YES, I broke lockdown. But if you had any idea just how much triple-A **** you can get mathematically modelling the spread of disease, you’d understand.

I deeply regret that I ignored the rules to see one of my many, many women. But since I entered infectious diseases in 2000 two weeks is the longest I’ve gone without a shag. Hell, two days is a drought.

The day I modelled the spread of the foot-and-mouth outbreak, I got home and there was a girl I’d never seen before naked in my bed. ‘How did you get in?’ I spluttered. ‘You’re the prediction expert,’ she said, throwing off the duvet. ‘You tell me.’

And from that moment on I’ve been going at it like a new strain of influenza in a weakened immune system. A woman for breakfast, another for lunch, two overnight. That’s weekdays. At weekends, well, I go kind of crazy.


It’s not my fault. The minute the chicks hear you’re an epidemiologist their panties hit the floor. There’s just something about studying virus transmission in large populations that demolishes every inhibition.

Jennifer Lawrence, Penelope Cruz, Nicki Minaj – who was so obsessed with my work on the Zika virus that we had to break up, I was physically exhausted – they’ve all stripped off my lab coat at one time or another.

So giving some married honey a booty call was of no more consequence to me than ordering a pizza. Sure, it was the best she’ll ever have, but to me? Wednesday.

It’s probably for the best. I was on course to win a Nobel prize, and honestly? Not sure the old dick could take it.

edy,

Done some trawling for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1XIXssA1xg

Here he talks about it just after Florida did a stay at home order. You can here the press asking him to get everyone to do it.

If you NEED the florida one from a few days before let me know.

Thank you.

I think it's a tad of a stretch to describe that single question, from a single reporter (I think it's Kyra Phillips of CNN or ABC (wife of Fox News dude John Roberts), as the (overall) press trying to get Trump to invoke some sort of power to lockdown places like Florida.

I was more imagining hordes of the press urging him to invoke all sorts of authoritarian powers.

Knowing CNN and their ultimate evilness, she just wanted to hurt his ego by making him admit that he doesn't have ultimate power.

Trump has all the power he needs when it comes to the world of rabbits …..

must be a lively dinner when Phillips & her partner, Roberts discuss their respective days

Turns out she left CNN to be with ABC these days. She apparently earned herself quite some criticism from colleagues last summer for being grateful to Trump for allowing press questions in his eternal kindness.

ah divided loyalties. I oft wonder if they ever discuss Andrea Tantaros

9000 fines issued by the Old Bill for breach of house arrest.

Fergie and his b*tch get away with ‘we’re disappointed with them’.

I don't think that is any way to talk about a woman.

or his biatch

For my sins i decided to watch the bbc 6pm news last night to see how they dealt with startling revelation !!

I should have known better, They didnt even mention it at all.

Interesting to see if the Police enforce anything over Saturday and Sunday. London will be 25C and nothing is going to stop me going out for a few beers!

#you are not the boss of me!

[Imperial College epidemiologist Neil] Ferguson was behind the disputed research that sparked the mass culling of eleven million sheep and cattle during the 2001 outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease. He also predicted that up to 150,000 people could die. There were fewer than 200 deaths. . . .

In 2002, Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people would likely die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. In the U.K., there were only 177 deaths from BSE.

In 2005, Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people could be killed from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.

In 2009, a government estimate, based on Ferguson’s advice, said a “reasonable worst-case scenario” was that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the end, swine flu killed 457 people in the U.K.

Last March, Ferguson admitted that his Imperial College model of the COVID-19 disease was based on undocumented, 13-year-old computer code that was intended to be used for a feared influenza pandemic, rather than a coronavirus. Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results. He only released a heavily revised set of code last week, after a six-week delay.

https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/05/08/so-the-real-scandal-is-why-did-anyone-ever-listen-to-this-guy/

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