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sage say more testing would have saved live,s sage says lockdown was to late doris says carry on handshaking Fergie breaks guidelines and ridiculed handjob goes out everyday and defends them,and their going to, on a day of their choosing throw him under a bus, ![]() ![]() |
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what do you think of him 1tp? i half expected you to tell me i am dumb for semi defending him? he is just following party line, maybe with tens of thousands dead a resignation and 'i would have done it my way' speech would be better?
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ive hated him for years used to read stories of George osbourne taking the pish out of him for snivelling, stories in westminister were he was that far up gideons arris,gideon couldn't go to the toilet,then all that we didn't fight on the beeches to deliver a no deal Brexit etc,etc,till he had to agree with it to get a job with doris
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you should both know what i think of him; so thanks for not asking moi
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no deal brexit sh1t was definitely a distinct lack of principles, funny how i had forgotten that when it wasnt long ago. i had never heard the licking up to gideon stuff, of all the cooonts to lick up to
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hornet, you voted for the clown i think???
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how could i vote for him?
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the advice was out there,news from other countries most people would have acted in a way that suited their families most,me and mine would be doing exactly the same with or without what doris has done or said,
with millions doing the same its up for debate if the economy would have carried on,if it had no one can doubt it would have been worse for longer ,deaths wise |
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i thought you voted for him in the leadership election?
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Herbie?
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bozo???
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were you not talking about Herbie? That's the drift i got from previous page
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we have crossed posts at some point, i moved on to the clown which to me is bozo. hancock is only a junior, the 'leader' takes ultimate responsibility.
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i did vote for Bozo, yes but there was no other choice - for me; Baker wasn't running for it. I've also called him Bozo for years & have said many times on here he wouldn't have been my choice in a perfect world
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we abandoned contact tracing (at one point saying it was only for third world countries or some such sh1t) which jenny now admits was done due to a lack of capabilities. only now does the government laud south korea, in the mean time we have seeded the disease all over country, they should have increased testing capabilities ages ago.
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as for Herbie; he was the only one left in a lst i compiled for the Cabinet bullet. I still can't believe he escaped
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And if you really believe that Hancock is faultless in all of this, then I'd politely suggest that you take some time to ponder why that might be.
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The way politics works, in this country anyway they can't really concede they took a wrong step, even if they think they did privately. However I don't see that Matt Hancock has done anything glaring that he needs to concede was wrong. Some people are desperate to hand out blame, I don't know if it makes them feel better or if there are other underlying reasons. In my view we've just got to accept that the covid 19 pandemic is pretty sh1t and just deal with it the best we can.
this is complete nonsense, we gave up on contact tracing at exactly the point we should have been expanding it. test, trace and isolate that is what the experts were saying we should be doing ages ago. the disease is now ceded all over the country so making this process harder to achieve now. |
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they abandoned contact tracing as the horse had bolted. It took over a month to get to the levels that would have been needed, and that's just testing, track and trace is still being compiled now.
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Cider, you were very quick to jump on Rosena Allin-Khan today, so much so that you started this thread about her.
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If you recall correctly they had to cap testing outside of hospitals just to ensure patients being admitted could be tested. You can only deal with the options you have at hand at the time.
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Aren't you now expressing support for Hancock ?
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why had the horse bolted?
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they didnt even try to up their game until early april, march was wasted, that is down to them.
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First we had Grant Schapps say it at the weekend, and now we've had Jenny Harries say today that more aggressive early testing would have saved lives.
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cider, is track and trace right now?
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they let the horse out of the stable, then claimed the horse has bolted 'what can we do?'
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They realised the game was up effectively. The testing since hasn't been to stop the spread in the general community, it's been to release key workers from self isolating (outside of hospitals and care homes). We're now preparing for the test track trace strategy once community cases are a manageable level.
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why was the game up?
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