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By:
1st time poster
When: 05 May 20 21:13
shoitey patel lets them in at the border,s
sage say more testing would have saved live,s
sage says lockdown was to late
doris says carry on handshaking
Fergie breaks guidelines

and ridiculed handjob goes out everyday and defends them,and their going to, on a day of their choosing throw him under a bus, LaughLaugh
By:
Angoose
When: 05 May 20 21:19
It's called blind loyalty Grin
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 21:19
what do you think of him 1tp? i half expected you to tell me i am dumb for semi defending him? he is just following party line, maybe with tens of thousands dead a resignation and 'i would have done it my way' speech would be better?
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 May 20 21:27
ive hated him for years used to read stories of George osbourne taking the pish out of him for snivelling, stories in westminister were he was that far up gideons arris,gideon couldn't go to the toilet,then all that we didn't fight on the beeches to deliver a no deal Brexit etc,etc,till he had to agree with it to get a job with doris
By:
Baphornet
When: 05 May 20 21:31
you should both know what i think of him; so thanks for not asking moi
By:
Cider
When: 05 May 20 21:31

May 5, 2020 -- 9:12PM, Angoose wrote:


Tend to agree, but he'd appear even more human if he was to accept the possibility that the government just might have taken a wrong step or two.


You're just looking at one variable of this whole crisis, which is a very simplistic one to consider, granted. I've repeated it so many times, but it doesn't sink in with some. The overall detriment can't be measured simply by looking at the number of deaths testing covid 19 positive. We won't know the total damage for years.

By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 21:33
no deal brexit sh1t was definitely a distinct lack of principles, funny how i had forgotten that when it wasnt long ago. i had never heard the licking up to gideon stuff, of all the cooonts to lick up to  Sad
By:
Angoose
When: 05 May 20 21:34

May 5, 2020 -- 9:31PM, Cider wrote:


May  5, 2020 --  8:12PM, Angoose wrote:Tend to agree, but he'd appear even more human if he was to accept the possibility that the government just might have taken a wrong step or two.You're just looking at one variable of this whole crisis, which is a very simplistic one to consider, granted. I've repeated it so many times, but it doesn't sink in with some. The overall detriment can't be measured simply by looking at the number of deaths testing covid 19 positive. We won't know the total damage for years.


No, I was responding to an exchange of views on Matt Hancock.

By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 21:34
hornet, you voted for the clown i think???
By:
Cider
When: 05 May 20 21:35

May 5, 2020 -- 9:34PM, Angoose wrote:


May  5, 2020 --  8:31PM, Cider wrote:May  5, 2020 --  8:12PM, Angoose wrote:Tend to agree, but he'd appear even more human if he was to accept the possibility that the government just might have taken a wrong step or two.You're just looking at one variable of this whole crisis, which is a very simplistic one to consider, granted. I've repeated it so many times, but it doesn't sink in with some. The overall detriment can't be measured simply by looking at the number of deaths testing covid 19 positive. We won't know the total damage for years.No, I was responding to an exchange of views on Matt Hancock.


So what is the wrong step you feel he should accept?

By:
Baphornet
When: 05 May 20 21:37
how could i vote for him?
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 May 20 21:37
the advice was out there,news from other countries most people would have acted in a way that suited their families most,me and mine would be doing exactly the same with or without what doris has done or said,
with millions doing the same its up for debate if the economy would have carried on,if it had no one can doubt it would have been worse for longer ,deaths wise
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 21:38
i thought you voted for him in the leadership election?
By:
Baphornet
When: 05 May 20 21:39
Herbie?
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 21:40
bozo???
By:
Angoose
When: 05 May 20 21:40

May 5, 2020 -- 9:35PM, Cider wrote:


May  5, 2020 --  8:34PM, Angoose wrote:May  5, 2020 --  8:31PM, Cider wrote:May  5, 2020 --  8:12PM, Angoose wrote:Tend to agree, but he'd appear even more human if he was to accept the possibility that the government just might have taken a wrong step or two.You're just looking at one variable of this whole crisis, which is a very simplistic one to consider, granted. I've repeated it so many times, but it doesn't sink in with some. The overall detriment can't be measured simply by looking at the number of deaths testing covid 19 positive. We won't know the total damage for years.No, I was responding to an exchange of views on Matt Hancock.So what is the wrong step you feel he should accept?


He doesn't even need to be specific, just generalise that mistakes may have been made.
Nicola Sturgeon doesn't find it so difficult to do, neither does Emmanuel Macron.

After all, the only person who has never made a wrong decision is the person who has never taken a decision.

By:
Baphornet
When: 05 May 20 21:41
were you not talking about Herbie? That's the drift i got from previous page
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 21:43
we have crossed posts at some point, i moved on to the clown which to me is bozo. hancock is only a junior, the 'leader' takes ultimate responsibility.
By:
Baphornet
When: 05 May 20 21:43
i did vote for Bozo, yes but there was no other choice - for me; Baker wasn't running for it. I've also called him Bozo for years & have said many times on here he wouldn't have been my choice in a perfect world
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 21:45
we abandoned contact tracing (at one point saying it was only for third world countries or some such sh1t) which jenny now admits was done due to a lack of capabilities. only now does the government laud south korea, in the mean time we have seeded the disease all over  country, they should have increased testing capabilities ages ago.
By:
Cider
When: 05 May 20 21:47

May 5, 2020 -- 9:40PM, Angoose wrote:


May  5, 2020 --  8:35PM, Cider wrote:May  5, 2020 --  8:34PM, Angoose wrote:May  5, 2020 --  8:31PM, Cider wrote:May  5, 2020 --  8:12PM, Angoose wrote:Tend to agree, but he'd appear even more human if he was to accept the possibility that the government just might have taken a wrong step or two.You're just looking at one variable of this whole crisis, which is a very simplistic one to consider, granted. I've repeated it so many times, but it doesn't sink in with some. The overall detriment can't be measured simply by looking at the number of deaths testing covid 19 positive. We won't know the total damage for years.No, I was responding to an exchange of views on Matt Hancock.So what is the wrong step you feel he should accept?He doesn't even need to be specific, just generalise that mistakes may have been made.Nicola Sturgeon doesn't find it so difficult to do, neither does Emmanuel Macron.After all, the only person who has never made a wrong decision is the person who has never taken a decision.


The way politics works, in this country anyway they can't really concede they took a wrong step, even if they think they did privately. However I don't see that Matt Hancock has done anything glaring that he needs to concede was wrong. Some people are desperate to hand out blame, I don't know if it makes them feel better or if there are other underlying reasons. In my view we've just got to accept that the covid 19 pandemic is pretty sh1t and just deal with it the best we can.

By:
Baphornet
When: 05 May 20 21:48
as for Herbie; he was the only one left in a lst i compiled for the Cabinet bullet. I still can't believe he escaped
By:
Angoose
When: 05 May 20 21:49

May 5, 2020 -- 9:47PM, Cider wrote:


May  5, 2020 --  8:40PM, Angoose wrote:May  5, 2020 --  8:35PM, Cider wrote:May  5, 2020 --  8:34PM, Angoose wrote:May  5, 2020 --  8:31PM, Cider wrote:May  5, 2020 --  8:12PM, Angoose wrote:Tend to agree, but he'd appear even more human if he was to accept the possibility that the government just might have taken a wrong step or two.You're just looking at one variable of this whole crisis, which is a very simplistic one to consider, granted. I've repeated it so many times, but it doesn't sink in with some. The overall detriment can't be measured simply by looking at the number of deaths testing covid 19 positive. We won't know the total damage for years.No, I was responding to an exchange of views on Matt Hancock.So what is the wrong step you feel he should accept?He doesn't even need to be specific, just generalise that mistakes may have been made.Nicola Sturgeon doesn't find it so difficult to do, neither does Emmanuel Macron.After all, the only person who has never made a wrong decision is the person who has never taken a decision.The way politics works, in this country anyway they can't really concede they took a wrong step, even if they think they did privately. However I don't see that Matt Hancock has done anything glaring that he needs to concede was wrong. Some people are desperate to hand out blame, I don't know if it makes them feel better or if there are other underlying reasons. In my view we've just got to accept that the covid 19 pandemic is pretty sh1t and just deal with it the best we can.


Is Nicola Sturgeon not a politician ?
And these are not normal times.

By:
Angoose
When: 05 May 20 21:51
And if you really believe that Hancock is faultless in all of this, then I'd politely suggest that you take some time to ponder why that might be.
By:
Cider
When: 05 May 20 21:53

May 5, 2020 -- 9:51PM, Angoose wrote:


And if you really believe that Hancock is faultless in all of this, then I'd politely suggest that you take some time to ponder why that might be.


I don't see that Matt Hancock has done anything glaring that he needs to concede was wrong

By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 21:56
The way politics works, in this country anyway they can't really concede they took a wrong step, even if they think they did privately. However I don't see that Matt Hancock has done anything glaring that he needs to concede was wrong. Some people are desperate to hand out blame, I don't know if it makes them feel better or if there are other underlying reasons. In my view we've just got to accept that the covid 19 pandemic is pretty sh1t and just deal with it the best we can.

this is complete nonsense, we gave up on contact tracing at exactly the point we should have been expanding it. test, trace and isolate that is what the experts were saying we should be doing ages ago. the disease is now ceded all over the country so making this process harder to achieve now.
By:
Cider
When: 05 May 20 21:59
they abandoned contact tracing as the horse had bolted. It took over a month to get to the levels that would have been needed, and that's just testing, track and trace is still being compiled now.
By:
Angoose
When: 05 May 20 22:01
Cider, you were very quick to jump on Rosena Allin-Khan today, so much so that you started this thread about her.

In light of your "some people are desperate to hand out blame, I don't know if it makes them feel better or if there are other underlying reasons" comment, is this a case of it being ok for you to be critical but not for others ?
By:
Cider
When: 05 May 20 22:01
If you recall correctly they had to cap testing outside of hospitals just to ensure patients being admitted could be tested. You can only deal with the options you have at hand at the time.
By:
Angoose
When: 05 May 20 22:03

May 5, 2020 -- 9:59PM, Cider wrote:


they abandoned contact tracing as the horse had bolted. It took over a month to get to the levels that would have been needed, and that's just testing, track and trace is still being compiled now.


Do you think at that time it would have been reasonable to imagine that, if not appropriate now,  test, track and trace may be needed at a near future point in time ?

By:
Cider
When: 05 May 20 22:03

May 5, 2020 -- 10:01PM, Angoose wrote:


Cider, you were very quick to jump on Rosena Allin-Khan today, so much so that you started this thread about her.In light of your "some people are desperate to hand out blame, I don't know if it makes them feel better or if there are other underlying reasons" comment, is this a case of it being ok for you to be critical but not for others ?


Rosena irritates me but most of my annoyance came from the people in msm and social media supporting her.

By:
Angoose
When: 05 May 20 22:04
Aren't you now expressing support for Hancock ?
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 22:05
why had the horse bolted?
By:
Cider
When: 05 May 20 22:05

May 5, 2020 -- 10:03PM, Angoose wrote:


May  5, 2020 --  8:59PM, Cider wrote:they abandoned contact tracing as the horse had bolted. It took over a month to get to the levels that would have been needed, and that's just testing, track and trace is still being compiled now.Do you think at that time it would have been reasonable to imagine that, if not appropriate now,  test, track and trace may be needed at a near future point in time ?


That's what they've been doing since isn't it? Some forumites are trying to portray it like it was a casual option, the reality is that they had zero choice.

By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 22:07
they didnt even try to up their game until early april, march was wasted, that is down to them.
By:
Angoose
When: 05 May 20 22:08
First we had Grant Schapps say it at the weekend, and now we've had Jenny Harries say today that more aggressive early testing would have saved lives.
But Hancock can't bring himself to say it.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 22:08
cider, is track and trace right now?
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 22:09
they let the horse out of the stable, then claimed the horse has bolted 'what can we do?'
By:
Cider
When: 05 May 20 22:10
They realised the game was up effectively. The testing since hasn't been to stop the spread in the general community, it's been to release key workers from self isolating (outside of hospitals and care homes). We're now preparing for the test track trace strategy once community cases are a manageable level.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 May 20 22:11
why was the game up?
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