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04 May 20 14:01
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The prime minister’s spokesman said that the NHS Nightingale hospital in London - the 4,000-bed emergency hospital set up within days in the ExCel centre, would be put “on standby”. He said that it was not expected to admit any new patients in the coming days, and he said as a result it would be put on standby, ready to receive patients if needed. He said there were five Nightingale hospitals open in total in England, and another two being prepared. The spokesman would not confirm that the ones outside London would also be put on hold too. But he said that the fact that the Nightingale hospitals were largely not be used did not mean that opening them was a mistake.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/may/04/uk-coronavirus-live-draft-rules-on-post-lockdown-workplaces-leaked
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So the NHS is saved by us staying at home.

Great News!!

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InsiderTrader
When: 04 May 20 14:03
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/london-nhs-nightingale-hospital-placed-on-standby

The London NHS Nightingale hospital will be placed “on standby” with no new coronavirus admissions expected in the coming days, Downing Street has said.

The prime minister’s official spokesman said the decision was due to limited demand for its services, adding: “It’s not likely that in the coming days we will need to be admitting patients to the London Nightingale while coronavirus in the capital remains under control.

“That’s obviously a very positive thing and we remain grateful to everybody in London for following the government’s advice in helping to protect the NHS.

“What the Nightingale will be is effectively placed on standby so it would be ready to receive patients should that be required, but we are not anticipating that will be the case.”

Giving an update on the Nightingale programme in England, the spokesman said: “Manchester has taken some patients already; Birmingham, Harrogate and Bristol are ready to take patients if needed. The other two are Sunderland and Exeter and they are due to open shortly.”

The fact that the Nightingale hospitals had not been “used in a significant way” was “something that is positive and we are grateful to the public for its role in that”, he said.

“People followed the advice to stay at home, that’s slowed the rate of infection and meant that the NHS wasn’t overwhelmed.”

The hospitals were “absolutely not” a waste of money, the spokesman said.
By:
1st time poster
When: 04 May 20 14:05
pity mr gove wasn't in on it he could have answered the question at yesterdays press conference, Laugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 04 May 20 14:09
I,m considered a super forecaster,super brain,so ive emailed them ,suggesting they use it for storing the 20,000 ventilators made out of yogurt cartons and sticky back plastic,that they also don't need, the 700, ooo nhs volunteers they begged for that havnt been used or contacted ,can also meet there for coffee and carrot cakeand hand clapping exercise,s
By:
lurka
When: 04 May 20 14:10
why are they preparing the other two Nightingales?
By:
Injera
When: 04 May 20 14:11
In my local hospital nurses are still being encouraged to take their holiday due to overstaffing. Nurses who’ve done 20 years get 8 weeks.

Bank holidays pay double time PLUS a day off in lieu. First 8 hours of a bank holiday night shift pay triple time plus a day off.
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 04 May 20 14:11
There is no end to this nonsense is there ?
By:
1st time poster
When: 04 May 20 14:12
given the choice of opening something shiny or new, or sorting ppe and testing,shiny and new wins everytime
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 04 May 20 14:13
Why are they buliding one in Exeter when Bristol virtually empty and cases in west country tiny?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 04 May 20 14:15
I thought the plan would be to keep them for Covid patients so regular hospitals could be Covid free.

Maybe there are so few cases after the intitial surge even that is not required.
By:
1st time poster
When: 04 May 20 14:17
it was on offer , so we,ll have one ,like the London wheel everyone has one now,most giving you a birds eye view of sweet fa,but hey no decent city can afford to be without one,why,who no,s
By:
1st time poster
When: 04 May 20 14:20
list of must haves for any city worth its name

EPL FOOTBALL CLUB
SHINY NEW BRIDGE
BY PASS
GIANT FERRIS WHEEL
ARTS CENTRE
NANDO,S Laugh
NIGHTINGALE HOSPITAL
By:
GoBallistic
When: 04 May 20 14:30
InsiderTrader 04 May 20 13:15 
I thought the plan would be to keep them for Covid patients so regular hospitals could be Covid free.


I was wondering about that on here a few weeks back. No doubt I've missed it but I'm sure, by now, the question must have been asked by one of the incisive journos and answered to full satisfaction

Not just keeping staff/patients separated to reduce spread but maybe even allowing the regular hospitals to do more of their scheduled ops / visits which are no doubt important for the health of those involved ?
By:
nineteen points
When: 04 May 20 14:36
surely its a good thing they arent needed.lets hope soon they might even start treating us as adults
By:
Make my hay
When: 04 May 20 14:44
The Nightingale hospitals have played their part in the Covid-BS by helping to fool the brainwashed masses into believing a killer virus really does exists,  Job Done.
By:
Make my hay
When: 04 May 20 14:46
The hospitals were “absolutely not” a waste of money, they should come in handy next year after everybody has been forced vaccinated and feeling ill.
By:
1st time poster
When: 04 May 20 14:47
they havnt got the staff experienced enough to treat anything more than a grazed knee,they new this at the time bit it took the media off looking at testing,ppe,dead bodies etc
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 04 May 20 14:54
Utterly despicable behaviour from the get go

"another 2 being prepared" when do we topple the government for being lying bas*ards?

As make my hay alludes to, they are not going to shut, not all of them anyway, because once 5G goes live and gets ramped up, with the vaccine added in, they'll be needing them
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 04 May 20 14:54
Anyone still defending this can do one

Utterly facking clueless
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 04 May 20 14:56

May 4, 2020 -- 2:47PM, 1st time poster wrote:


they havnt got the staff experienced enough to treat anything more than a grazed knee,they new this at the time bit it took the media off looking at testing,ppe,dead bodies etc


No it was to scare people into doing the whole social distancing and staying at home

The media were showing makeshift morgues ffs, Sky News were showing coffins

Utterly disgusting acts, and for what? to get their precious brave new world? they resorted to mass mental terrorising SadAngryAngryAngry

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 04 May 20 15:00
The public over the past 2 months have been terrorised by the television

Its no wonder they are dobbing their neighbours in ffs, its been worse than any "terrorist" could achieve, your own facking media and governments have terrorised and scared you into hiding under the bed

Sky News should be closed down, and all of their participant reporters executed for crimes against humanity, they are mentally deranged ffs
By:
GAZO
When: 04 May 20 15:05
trump did the same yet you back him up
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 04 May 20 15:28
Well done staying home.


Tories increased capacity but left old folk in care homes to be slaughtered by corona

No tests, so they try not to count the dead bodies.

Their day of shame will come.


One liar bailed out today

Revolving door should be fitted...
By:
dave1357
When: 04 May 20 15:38
oh another aftertiming thread from insider trader - btw I wonder how things are going in no lockdown Belarus?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 04 May 20 16:03
Seem to be going fine in terms of Covid.

Curve flattened after a month just like everywhere else.
By:
Angoose
When: 04 May 20 16:07
Is Russia's curve flattening ?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 04 May 20 16:09
Good that they weren't used. There was a time when we were not sure. I doubt they would have had enough ICU nurses to run them but they were built even if thankfully not needed.

The fact of the matter is the Government does not know what it is doing. I have said it from before the start to now and they still do not know what they are doing. They have left the old folk to die in nursing homes in the knowledge at the start they were kept off the statistics if they did not die in hospital. That is truly deplorable and should be a scandal. Hopefully it will come out in the Public Inquiry.

We still do not know what will happen if we have a second wave so it is prudent to keep the beds on stand by. Because we haven't widely tested the population we do not know what will happen when we start the return to work. With a bit of luck we may see that in Europe many people have had the virus and not known and plenty will have immunity and many of the vulnerable have already been infected.

It is a mess and I have absolutely no confidence in those in charge and would rather take my own chances and make my own decisions on how to protect myself. There is a clear view that the science is being amended to suit Government needs and that is wrong.
By:
Injera
When: 04 May 20 16:14
Re Care/Nursing Home deaths, do we know the extra mortality rates yet?

Up to 100k die in these homes each year. Sad but inevitable.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 04 May 20 16:18
Angoose
04 May 20 15:07
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Is Russia's curve flattening ?

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What part of Russia? That is like asking is Europe's curve flattening a month ago.
By:
Angoose
When: 04 May 20 16:27
Which part of "everywhere else" were you referring to Happy
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 04 May 20 16:28
Latest estimate of covid deaths in uk

50,200


Quite easy to picture 50,000 if you are a football fan

Sad
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 04 May 20 16:30
Most avoidable and caused by government run by clowns
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 04 May 20 16:33
Angoose
04 May 20 15:27
Joined: 18 Jul 02
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Which part of "everywhere else" were you referring to

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Show me part of Russia that the curve did not start to flatten 4-6 weeks after the first death.
By:
Injera
When: 04 May 20 16:39
Covid related deaths.

Words are important....
By:
Angoose
When: 04 May 20 16:40
9,623 new cases reported May 2
10,633 new cases reported May 3
10,581 new cases reported May 4
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 04 May 20 16:44
Where is that Moscow? Or a total for places as mid apart as Cape Town to London?
By:
stridingedge
When: 04 May 20 16:54
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/05/04/russias-coronavirus-cases-rise-by-over-10k-for-second-straight-day-a69710

Russia confirmed 10,581 new coronavirus infections Monday, bringing the country’s official number of cases to 145,268.

Russia is now the seventh most-affected country in terms of infections, having surpassed China, Turkey and Iran last week.

Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin on Thursday confirmed that he has the coronavirus, making him the highest-ranking official in Russia to contract the virus.

Seventy-six people died over the past 24 hours, bringing the total toll to 1,356.

Russia is emerging as a new hotspot for the coronavirus as many countries in western Europe begin steps to ease lockdown measures after their rates of new infections and deaths dropped.

Despite the sharp rise in cases, Russia's official fatality rate has remained low in comparison to countries including Italy, Spain and the United States.

Officials credit quick moves to close the country's borders, as well as widespread testing and tracking of infections, but critics have cast doubts on the numbers.

Authorities have extended a non-working quarantine period until May 11 but have also indicated they could then gradually lift confinement measures which vary from region to region.

Moscow has emerged as the epicentre of the pandemic in Russia, with around half the total coronavirus cases. Mayor Sergei Sobyanin has warned that "the threat is apparently on the rise" and urged residents to respect confinement rules and anti-virus measures over the May holidays.
By:
Charlie
When: 04 May 20 17:22
Very well done doris another master stroke by your, shall we say, government.
By:
Angoose
When: 04 May 20 17:51
Just wait for the wealthy Muscovites winging their way to London to escape the Russian hotspot Sad
By:
Manoleeds
When: 04 May 20 18:34
The Sunday Telegraph yesterday reported on the 1968 flu pandemic. Took out 80000 in the UK. No lockdowns. As it says "The Generation in power had a more sanguine attitude to diseases". I think the rot set in with the mass hysteria when Di was wiped out in the Paris tunnel.
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