Hurrah For Hancock's Hundred Thousand - Daily Briefing

That's a good question

Oh dear.

its like a north Korean press conference

1951

40,000 in post

Tedious numbers.

lets see if he asks about how many tests were mailed

122,347 well done I hope we have enough people to open the envelopes when they come back!

27,497 kits posted plus another 12,000 sent into space via satellite!

40,000 drive thru's!

Wasting time

whe is a 100,000 not a 100,000 ... when its a gov't answer

how were the other 40,000 conducted? I must have missed that!

Jesus, who's the biggest liar here.

No follow up given

wtf is a satellite test?

and he kept a straight face,when kim jons announced dead at weekend john newton can throw his hat in ring

But the next journo follows up on behalf of Sam

You'd think these journalists might get together and ask their questions in concert so they can investigate the answers better

like a lefty tag team, they always get counted out tho!

Handjob can't think of a good lie yet.

C4 virtue signalling. Of course some communities will suffer in different ways.

hancock batting all the test questions to j newton,tells you all you need to no about veracity of tests

So 62k tests then. OK

Or is it 82k?

122347

6k new cases from 100k tests? I don't think so

6,201 positive thus can we assume 116,146 negative results

Figures don't add up if there are 122,000 test results then cases would be way up.

Satellite centres
NHS capability is being increased by providing test kits directly to ‘satellite’ centres at places like hospitals that have a particularly urgent or significant need.


https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-getting-tested

Erm, um, erm

anyone tested positive now would have been negative going into lockdown. If the rate wasn't falling now we would all be in trouble.

6000 positives today by playing games what happens if out of those 40,000 in post 20,000 are positive what day do they go down on as positive tests,

17% positive overall, but only 5% today. Yeah OK

overall of what?

anyone know how many tests were done?

the proportion of positive tests to tests on any day must be falling.

worse than that 5% of people supposedly showing symptom,s

Our Bookies will be open first

The Tory party are filthy deceiving liars from top to bottom....

Young people must see them for that and send them packing to oblivion.

hancock,s fooooked on sunday no post and 2 bank hols coming up,

wasn't that meant to happen in December pecker

Hancock's Half Hour theme :
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGH-Y2OZOS8

May 1, 2020 -- 5:45PM, Cider wrote:

overall of what?

177k cases from 1m total tests

May 1, 2020 -- 5:49PM, lurka wrote:

May  1, 2020 --  4:45PM, Cider wrote:overall of what?177k cases from 1m total tests

For a good while they were only testing suspect cases in hospital. The ratio should now be coming down daily.

Can we all at least agree that a test is only a test once it has been processed ?

3 biggest shysters in one room ever, coonts.

They are home testing kits Angoose. Unsurprisingly the clue is in the name

May 1, 2020 -- 5:52PM, Cider wrote:

They are home testing kits Angoose. Unsurprisingly the clue is in the name

To be processed in a lab or do they also send out a PCR machine with the swab ?

LOL JOHN NEWTON,
can be dangerous to take stats at face value, you bet your sweet arris it can,

More fudge there than in a Cadbury's factory

The cheque is in the post!

I feel like a PCR machine being mailed out is unlikely.

when stated as an aim was the 100,000 people or tests to be done?

May 1, 2020 -- 5:55PM, Cider wrote:

I feel like a PCR machine being mailed out is unlikely.

Yes, so the test hasn't been processed then , has it.

May 1, 2020 -- 5:55PM, jollyswagman wrote:

when stated as an aim was the 100,000 people or tests to be done?

All the talk has always been of tests with no reference to people.

The Scottish Government tell you the number of tests performed along with the number that were returned positive and negative.
And guess what, they add up.

Can't get that simple arithmetical check with the UK government.

Scottish information updates: 1 May 2020
A total of 56,702 people in Scotland have been tested. Of these:
45,048 were confirmed negative
11,654 were positive
1,515 patients who tested positive have died

Last 4 days: 6k from 122k 73k people tested, 6k from 81k 54k people, 4k from 52k 33k people, 4k from 43k 29k people.

Big drop in positive rate because 40k tests haven't been processed.

They are home testing kits Angoose. Unsurprisingly the clue is in the name

Unsurprisngly a test is implied in the name ... waiting for it to be delivered in the post can hardly be described as a completed test

So the government set a testing target, they achieve it and you lot come on and moan more than ever

So they know the groups that are adversely affected by the virus . They know the groups that aren't . But nobody has any , figures , correlations or

ideas . They can't work out what they have in common . They are working on it . Manyana .

May 1, 2020 -- 6:00PM, lurka wrote:

Last 4 days: 6k from 122k 73k people tested, 6k from 81k 54k people, 4k from 52k 33k people, 4k from 43k 29k people.Big drop in positive rate because 40k tests haven't been processed.

1 in 7 people positive, 1 in 8, 1 in 9 and now 1 in 12 today. Horseshít

and when 40,000 are tested the positives will distort the figures for other days when your trying to track the progress

May 1, 2020 -- 6:02PM, lurka wrote:

May  1, 2020 --  5:00PM, lurka wrote:Last 4 days: 6k from 122k 73k people tested, 6k from 81k 54k people, 4k from 52k 33k people, 4k from 43k 29k people.Big drop in positive rate because 40k tests haven't been processed.1 in 7 people positive, 1 in 8, 1 in 9 and now 1 in 12 today. Horseshít

It's perfectly logical.

angoose this is still on the 10 downing street twitter feed

https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1245820428020584450/photo/1

we will test 100,000 people per day by the end of this month.

it doesnt matter though they will get their headline. need to get on with contact tracing and isolating asap.

any details of how they intend to contact trace apart from the app?

18,000 people to be recruited

Angoose • May 1, 2020 5:59 PM BST

Can't get that simple arithmetical check with the UK government.

I thought you took every government statistic as gospel ? Or are those just the ones that suit the cause ?

Run along Reynard, there's a good chap.

thanks, i have just seen a bit on the news and been told call centres. they need boots on the ground and local knowledge, environmental health officers would be appropriate, i hope they are not ignored.

The problem being that you didn't stop to think, did you.

May 1, 2020 -- 6:09PM, jollyswagman wrote:

thanks, i have just seen a bit on the news and been told call centres. they need boots on the ground and local knowledge, environmental health officers would be appropriate, i hope they are not ignored.

Been a lot of discussion around that and claims that a lot of the local expertise no longer exists.
There was a woman who works with contact tracing for STD's on Newsnight just last night explaining how you'll need well trained individuals to perform the work.

Lewis Goodall
@lewis_goodall

Also worth pointing out that ministers have been talking about tests performed rather than people for most of this period, unlike original Downing St tweet. Clearly though, many of the tests sent in the post, won't have been completed yet.

Goodall also picked up on the original Downing Street people tweet rather than tests.

looking at todays figures deaths outside hospital, going to overtake those inside shortly and spending the week manipulating the testing figures has just stopped testing getting into care homes wheres its harder,slower to contact and get the right people tested

May 1, 2020 -- 6:04PM, Cider wrote:

May  1, 2020 --  5:02PM, lurka wrote:May  1, 2020 --  5:00PM, lurka wrote:Last 4 days: 6k from 122k 73k people tested, 6k from 81k 54k people, 4k from 52k 33k people, 4k from 43k 29k people.Big drop in positive rate because 40k tests haven't been processed.1 in 7 people positive, 1 in 8, 1 in 9 and now 1 in 12 today. HorseshítIt's perfectly logical.

Not in one day it's not. They've already admitted that 40k tests were delivered to people, ie no results in today's figures

centralisation gutting capabilities over many decades is one of the problems. surely environmental health officers do similar kind of stuff and there are still a few thousand of them. need to ask all the countries who have done it with success for advice.

1tp did you put up some figures for second homers getting cash from the chancellor? if so have you got a source please?

May 1, 2020 -- 6:12PM, Angoose wrote:

Lewis Goodall@lewis_goodallAlso worth pointing out that ministers have been talking about tests performed rather than people for most of this period, unlike original Downing St tweet. Clearly though, many of the tests sent in the post, won't have been completed yet.Goodall also picked up on the original Downing Street people tweet rather than tests.

He would, wouldn't he

yes I did ,havnt got source but was in the daily mail,5,000 out of 8,000 owners already claimed

May 1, 2020 -- 6:19PM, lurka wrote:

May  1, 2020 --  5:04PM, Cider wrote:May  1, 2020 --  5:02PM, lurka wrote:May  1, 2020 --  5:00PM, lurka wrote:Last 4 days: 6k from 122k 73k people tested, 6k from 81k 54k people, 4k from 52k 33k people, 4k from 43k 29k people.Big drop in positive rate because 40k tests haven't been processed.1 in 7 people positive, 1 in 8, 1 in 9 and now 1 in 12 today. HorseshítIt's perfectly logical.Not in one day it's not. They've already admitted that 40k tests were delivered to people, ie no results in today's figures

The ratio of positives should be falling as tests are increasing. You can't know it to the exact decimal point until the tests taken have been analysed.

thanks 1tp, i had hoped that loophole would be closed before the greedy s0ds could claim, i hope there are no MPs amongst them. that is terrible.

We knew by 9th march we couldn't do the necessary early community testing and the virus was too established but lockdown took a further 2 weeks from this knowledge.

This isn't going away and whooping and high fives in today's briefing about the fact we can test better now is not papering over the early shambles for me.

Again I will reiterate for me it's not a party thing. I just cannot get away from the early policy.

It wasn't the right science at the right time, it was an ill prepared country and a lax early approach once it was glaringly obvious we had a big problem.

Listening to that today was vomit inducing at times.Perhaps we have a new way of tackling pandemics of only testing once you have had a high loss of life over the peak.

their not popular down there at present so locals were only to willing to say most wernt buisnesses  and remained boarded up most of time,when owners wernt using therm

May 1, 2020 -- 6:24PM, Cider wrote:

May  1, 2020 --  5:19PM, lurka wrote:May  1, 2020 --  5:04PM, Cider wrote:May  1, 2020 --  5:02PM, lurka wrote:May  1, 2020 --  5:00PM, lurka wrote:Last 4 days: 6k from 122k 73k people tested, 6k from 81k 54k people, 4k from 52k 33k people, 4k from 43k 29k people.Big drop in positive rate because 40k tests haven't been processed.1 in 7 people positive, 1 in 8, 1 in 9 and now 1 in 12 today. HorseshítIt's perfectly logical.Not in one day it's not. They've already admitted that 40k tests were delivered to people, ie no results in today's figuresThe ratio of positives should be falling as tests are increasing. You can't know it to the exact decimal point until the tests taken have been analysed.

Not my point but you knew that. My point was 100k tests in a day is horseshít

The positive rate has dropped dramatically in a day because the number of incomplete 'tests' counted as tests has rocketed up to get them over 100k.

So much fudging of testing data, it's tough to get an accurate picture, but here is what I've got.

I track the daily number of positive tests reported along with the number of people reported as having been tested.
Trouble is, they make backdated adjustments to the people number but don't allocate them to the actual day.

Allowing for that, this chart shows the number of positive tests each day along with a percentage of that against the imputed number of people tested on any given day.

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The old lefties sick as pigs after saying it couldn't be done ....

Just sick of continually being fed horse manure.
If you couldn't see the farce in that briefing, you've really got a problem.

no leftie said it couldn't be don,e they were just wondering how,and this leftie predicted on here over a week ago ,it would be a smoke and mirrors tory deflection numbers game in last few days, exactly as it panned out

'leftie' andrew neil doesnt seem too impressed

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1256274734465134592

it is good that we are going in the right direction but they cant stop dissembling and looking for a headline rather than really getting on top of things.  they need to sort out contact tracing and isolating too. (says a non leftie)

hancocks going to come under more scrutiny ,media going through the figures than he would have by missing out by 10,20.000 and saying we,re making progress ,testing the right people etc,etc

Newton did himself no favours by becoming a willing accessory to that farce.

Hancock would be more popular if he'd come out and said we didn't hit the target but we are up to 73k people tested. Nobody would have a problem with that. It's the horseshít and waffle that annoys people.

However if they are counting tests sent out as tests, they are likely counting the people they sent them to as people tested.

Sadly, such duplicitous behaviour is the norm at the heart of this government.
Being open, honest, and transparent are not the qualities required in the cabinet.

I will for the 1st time give government some credit for the acceleration, even if they have moved the goalposts we have seen a dramatic rise up the ladder of nations in testing.

out of 122,000 tests,73,000 people and some of them had multiple tests,

hancock/doris/government, been mocked all over media ,including right wing media for the counting,double counting and non counting

May 1, 2020 -- 7:06PM, lurka wrote:

Hancock would be more popular if he'd come out and said we didn't hit the target but we are up to 73k people tested. Nobody would have a problem with that. It's the horseshít and waffle that annoys people.However if they are counting tests sent out as tests, they are likely counting the people they sent them to as people tested.

Exactly.

usual tory/downing st games,one word in 60 min press conference on 740 deaths after doris was celebrating our achievements  last night

Don't see what testing achieves so late in the pandemic . Can understand testing and tracing at the beginning with an unknown virus . But once you know the at risk targets it is a pointless exercise . Who cares how many are or have been infected . It is the deaths that matter and they already know who should be protected and isolate them .

The same groups will be dying no matter how many are tested .

fair point eyeball,i,m not a believer in the test,test,terst theory myself
track and trace as many as you want,if their feeling fit need money,their not going to self isolate because they talked to someone in the street for 15 mins ,2 days ago, if their not fit and well they,ll be in bed or at hospital, as mrs may said nothing has changed,nothig has changed

fook me just been reading in mail,when you see on tv nhs workers taking a nose swab and a throat swab on a person,youve guessed it that goes down as 2 tests