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just for my friend CIDER
,I HAVE SOLVED THE MYSTERY OF A SUDDEN surge in tests,prior to tues a test was considered a test when it had been tested in a lab,since then a test is counted when someone asks for one and its sent out by mail, regardless of, if its ever returned back to the lab, not like cummings and co to play smokes and mirrors with numbers, ![]() |
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Now counting tests that may never happen as actual tests.
This needs to be brought up at the daily briefing. |
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Why Does The 100k Testing Target Matter?
Ask the MSN, wasn't it they pushing and pushing for a guaranteed date/number? I'm guessing it was so they could attack when the number wasn't reached. |
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52,000 tests tues 27,000 people tested
82,000 tests wed 53,000 people tested 100,000 tests thurs . ? tested wakey,wakey looks like some of those doing testing have been told to test as many people twice as they can, ![]() |
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Clearly, testing is going to play a major role in how and when lockdown measures can be eased, and capacity was initially woefully inadequate.
As for the 100k target, that's a good question for Mr Hancock, he's the one who made the big song and dance when he launched it. |
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depending on todays numbers could be over 100,000 wasted swab tests in 3 days,probably from start to result sent out over £200 per test
100,000 x 200 money through in the bin in 3 days, didn't quite hear it earlier but Scottish failed tests were miniscule % wise compared to uk,s,maybe they have better trained staff to shove it up peoples noses |
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Any smelling a back track
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They need to give us test result numbers, not test kit numbers.
If they want to play the test kit game, they can add in the £20M worth of useless Chinese antibody test kits ![]() |
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Jeremy Hunt seemed reasonably confident Matt would get there. Hopefully, it's not that material in the bigger picture but would be a bit of a boost for everyone. Even 1st timer
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it all come out in the wash cider,media all over these tests like the care homes,hanncock wont be able to blag his way through the numbers,
around 100,000 different people tested yesterday compared to wed,how many swabs do you think the testers will have messed up shoving up 100,000 different sized noses ,today ![]() |
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Need swabs to wipe away your tears later on
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They did do something that was bit of creative accounting, apparently in the billion pieces of ppe delivered, a pair of gloves counted as 2 pieces
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But if they'd been really smart, they would have counted the fingers and thumbs as individual items.
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And if they'd cut the gowns in to quarters .........
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health journal reports on april 30,up to 50,000 of the tests will count thoise as sent out by mail to people,
might as well just send 100,000 out and be done with it all this smokes and mirrors will just drag it out for hancock |
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Guardian? BBC? Communist Times?
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Health Service Journal
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The government has changed the way it is counting the number of covid-19 tests carried out in a bid to hit its target of 100,000 tests per day by the end of April, HSJ can reveal.
Previously, a test would be counted once the sample had been processed in laboratories. But this definition has been changed in the last few days, a senior source told HSJ. The Department of Health and Social Care is now including tests that have been posted or delivered to people’s homes in its figures. This means tests which are sent to people are counted before the recipient has provided and returned their sample to a laboratory. HSJ understands that up to 50,000 of the tests that will be reported as having taken place on 30 April will actually represent the mailing or the agreeing to mail a home testing kit. In the last seven days (23-30 April) the number of tests reported by the government rose from 23,560 to 81,611. The source told HSJ that work to achieve the 100,000 tests per day had been “manic” and that the health and social care secretary Matt Hancock was “obsessed” with reaching the target. “They are trying every trick in the book,” the source said. “They had to get the permanent secretary at DHSC (Chris Wormald) to agree to a change in the counting process. “We’re now counting a home test as tests which have been sent to people’s homes.” Testing for covid-19 has been predominantly carried out under two of Mr Hancock’s five “pillars”, within the government’s testing strategy. These are tests at laboratories run by Public Health England and NHS hospitals (Pillar One) and swab tests at dozens of community sites across the UK (Pillar Two), with the latter including the posting of home testing kits and deliveries by companies such as Amazon. HSJ understands around 27,000 home tests were posted to people yesterday as part of pillar two work. They will form part of today’s testing figures which are yet to be published. HSJ’s source said: “The view is that is unsustainable. It was just a massive one-day mission on the part of Amazon and the Royal Mail”. HSJ understands the number of home test kits that have been returned by Amazon this week is about one one third of the number posted. Meanwhile, the government has recently announced two testing programmes under Pillar Four, which will eventually include hundreds of thousands of people. One of the programmes, announced on Wednesday and led by Imperial College, Imperial College Health Healthcare Trust and polling company Ipsos Mori, will see 100,000 home testing kits sent to people across the country. HSJ understands around 25,000 home testing kits were posted to people yesterday through this scheme. On Wednesday, only 1,150 tests under Pillar Four had been carried out. The other Pillar Four programme, announced on 23 April, aims to track coronavirus in the general population and is led by the DHSC and Office for National Statistics, with the help of University of Oxford, data science company IQVIA UK and the National Biosample Centre in Milton Keynes. Testing figures for yesterday will be announced later today. The DHSC has been approached for comment. |
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Just tell us that you've done 60 million tests as you intended to test everyone in the country
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unnamed source, same old shyte, may as well have been the guardian or bbc
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No problem then, all Hancock has to do is tell us how many negatives and how many positives from the magic number he reveals.
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will show out in the number of individual people tested ,which hancock probably won=t mention ,but will be in data,as ive posted only about 80,000 individual people tested out of 135,000 tests doesn't add upo
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Or ask Chris Wormald to confirm or deny whether a change in the counting process has taken place.
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Cider, if it was proven to be true, would it come as a huge shock to you ?
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Huge shock over egging it but if it was true why would the source not be named. When the source is unnamed the story tends to be exaggerated or false.
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if the nhs pro,s are messing up 40% of the tests legitimately[ not because of a hancock scam
] what % of home test kits where they,ll only have one go at it, are going to be messed up ?hancock will have to pay joe public to mess them up or joe public will make nhs workers taking the tests look totally incompetent, ![]() |
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The source more than likely works in the NHS.
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The healthcare sector is littered with labour activists who won't be happy that it looks like Matt could achieve the target that seemed out of reach to many.
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Did you get that information from an unnamed source
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twatter ;)
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They bring it on themselves though, don't they.
Hancock stood there and denied having set a 25k target despite there being filmed evidence of him having done so. |
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send the question in angoose,i,m sure cummings will pick it out for hancock to answer,
![]() ,cider your right about left leaning union types in public servicers,transporty,nhs,social care,schools,which is going to make it very bdifficult in unwinding this lockdown, Brexit loons like bridgen stirtring labour/khan/union plots wont help, the last mayor to have his trouser,s pulled down and spanked by LFT union was DORIS in run up to olympics |
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Even the footballers are at it. When people are paid for not working it's pretty difficult to break that habit, having a ready made excuse not to.
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The media pushing the narrative of panic has a lot to answer for, broadcasting images of doctors and nurses in hazmat suits, mass graves in foreign countries etc. It wasn't representative but that's the image they put out.
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A 24/7 campaign telling people to STAY HOME has worked.
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saw an article somewhere this morning along the same lines
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What they now need is a simple message on the side of a bus to get them back out
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People are different though. Some will be genuinely scared, some will be itching to get back to normal, some will rinse it for what they can get away with.
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That's people.
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tbh I'd be quite happy to carry on wfh personally, I'm not really a people person so permanently wfh is great!
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