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What about Germany? Yes, Germany had a lot of tests available from the get-go, but there was also a lot less virus around and it was in younger people.
How do you know if there is "a lot less virus around" unless you are testing ? |
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R YOU MIGHT WELL ASK
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R YOU MIGHT WELL ASK
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Prof geezer from Oxford on ch4 news says he reckons its been done..hope he's right..test test test.
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The thing about tests for frontline NHS staff is that they are of limited value if you are having to go back to work the next day and the day after, A friend of mine working as a nurse says the "have you got the virus?" test will make little or no difference to her, as she would need a test every day.
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I know that the tests are still important in the bigger picture, but getting tested once will not do a doctor or nurse much good as an individual.
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There's a threshold where contact tracing ceases to be viable, not matter what the testing capacity is. It's not just the testing is it, it's the legwork and manpower involved in tracing, and of course undertaking the tests.
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An antibody test which can ascertain whether an individual has a degree of immunity would be much more useful, if such a test is possible.
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When there was one known case in this country, that proved too much for "track and trace" and they quickly lost control
Now that are many thousands of known new cases every day spread across the nation ... well good luck with that |
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Agree with that des but until such times...
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the infamous super spreader, seems a long time ago now
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the interesting number will be Fridays tests number,will the increase carry on 50,000 in last 2 days if it gets somewhere near tomorrow, so you,d think 125,000 for fri,or will capacity stay at around a 100,000 and tests drop to below a 100,000
on numbers given we actually tested more yesterday than we had capacity for |
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Are you preparing for Matt to hit the target after a month saying it couldn't be done?
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I'm sure you will be humble in your praise if they make it. Or maybe not
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no because it wont be 100,000 people ,100,000 tests will equate to about 75,000 individuals at best, I didn't say he wouldn't get there just queried how, and was actually proved right if it happens,50,000 in last 2 days
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it's most definitely 100K tests
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I didn't say he wouldn't get there
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think you,ll find most sane people assumed 100,000 people
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listen to nhs trusts their people in carehome,s still arnt getting tested
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as you alluded to 100K or not it's not fait accompli. The practicalities of testing care home residents must be immense.
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There is no point of testing after being in a partial lock down since March 23rd . I would be guessing if i knew when the virus entered the UK but
the earliest detected case in China was 17th November 2019 . It could easily have started before this date because the viral season in the Northern hemisphere runs from October through to May . it is not beyond the realms of possibility that it has been with us since last year and wrongly diagnosed as influenza . It could have been here for six months . The first confirmed case in Italy was 31st January . We must have had infection here for at least three months probably four without testing or contact tracing . We know the people who are at risk . These are the people who should have been looked after and protected . But it has not been done and the government have taken a different route focusing on the entire population after dithering . I would not be surprised if ten million or more , are or had been infected and had shown various levels of symptoms . the horse has already bolted . |
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There's been no excess deaths in the stats until April.
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All you people counting the covid 19 positive deaths are conveniently forgetting that going into lockdown causes deaths as well. And once you're in it it's bl00dy difficult to get out of it.
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ive the bloke from scarbrough on tv a few times who runs 3 care homes and cant get his people tested but has booked them in and waiting for details on how,i would imagine the army pop ups would do them ,maybe they've got up and running in last 48 hrs,
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government reckon 30% of buisnesses closed,didnt have to close under governments plans/thinking and their hoping to start to nudge people back next week, public bought into their lock down to well
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Easier to furlough people than take 30% of normal business.
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heard a top end eaterie owner today saying he could create more space, move tables around but it reaches a point where the next table you have to move means the numbers don't work
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There are workarounds but very tricky to maintain social distancing with any kind of visitor numbers.
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just reading todays 81,00 tests were on 54,000 people,how do they do 30,000 wrong tests,does it mean they've basically broken,dropped 30,000 swab sticks,dont get it,if you've scraped it around and hasn't got enough material on swab ,why cant they just put it up again, seems a hell of a lot of wastage,or is it the quality,skills of those doing the testing
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Eyeball .....spot on 100%
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Apart from one thing
Which I believe only applies to Ireland It was diagnosed as a chest infection But at a nearby nursing home As COPD |
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report today says there were at least 5 deaths due to covid prior to 1st established covid death
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so people like me and others on here who were discussing months ago a horrible dry cough, that people couldn't shake off in early jan, doing the rounds could have been a covid runner, although when someone asked dr Hillary about it weeks ago,he said no chance
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The question needs answered - if NO vaccine then this Virus will still be about. You cannot keep locking people up for months upon months. This is going to cause more issues when they do eventually come out of their hibernation.
Over half of the Covid 19 deaths in Scotland are within care homes. The more younger healthier Scots people currently hibernating need to be released from their homes to start mixing again. Immunity will only be achieved through this. The longer people are not mixing then we will be open to all sorts of virus's and diseases in the future |
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People who had it before news got out
Knew they had something very different to flu It was not flu .....although they wanted it to be Because they knew they could handle flu This was not flu .... Even now people who have had it Are not 100% right in the lungs |
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I reckon that the majority of people who think they’ve had it, but we’re never tested, haven’t had it.
If they ever get a reliable antibody test, then maybe we’ll find out. As for those in the front line, I’d imagine that gaining piece of mind at a point in time would be a very welcome development. If you have been taking all appropriate precautions, then you’ll also be as sure as you can that you haven’t subsequently become infected. You can then participate in a regular testing program to provide further periodic confirmations. At some point, I’d imagine that some clever clogs will develop a simple prick test / saliva test that simplifies the testing process further. |
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54,000 people tested all supposedly essential workers all[ apart from care staff who cant get tests] ,supposedly continually coughing,40 degree temp etc , all been closer to corona than joe public for 6 weeks ,yet only about 5,000 tested positive I think, must show people were basically just getting tested because they could
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when track and trace comes in ,mobile app etc,if you test positive and work in a factory with 2,3,4,5,600 people does that mean those 600 have to self isolate for 14 days,factory close ,etc,obviously they wont,and obviously anyone who needs to work to pay bills, wont self isolate if their fit enough to go to work ,so whats the point
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another dozen or so interviewed on sky/bbc this morning making about a 100 since tues and yet to produce a cough,sneeze,bead of sweat between them despite some of them spending 2/3 hrs in a car,anyone any idea what corona symptons these people are showing,maybe 2/3 hr car journeys are unwittingly the vaccine
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