I've been saying for over a month the reporting has been misleading and inaccurate with constant casual uses of phrases such as died from, cannot emphasis how unprofessional this is, reports swing from 'from' to 'with' to 'related' to 'had tested positive from'

there is not clear enough breakdowns of the numbers released from daily briefings, what exactly did there death certificates say, what were their age groups, what were their underlying health issues, how much longer were they expected to live without the contraction of the virus, how many people in perfectly good health who have died have died solely from this virus excluding those on the frontline overexposed with lack of PPE.

Schools, businesses, charities, sports, daily life all completely hinges on official numbers of Covid-19 deaths yet it's a completely artificial number to begin with, I don't think the government are trying to impose a police state I just think they're paralysed by fear and smashing the safety button so they're not accused of having blood on their hands whilst also over compensating for the lack of preparedness for this pandemic.

I also still question whether Boris was pulling a fast one when he was in hospital, he was never on a ventilator and it was his own medical team that asked for him to be put into ICU rather than the hospital admitting him there themselves? just as the sun was shining and it was more likely people were to go out more, just putting it out there.

Over 26000 with the coronavirus have died that is not the same as 26000 people died of the coronavirus.
Yet sadly the media is doing just that

The queen has been missing bar a couple of special broadcasts where she basically looked like a rabbit in headlights, I think she was held at gun point to do that video as well

Every time you see these plebs give a briefing its like they are thinking what the fack am I reading

The death numbers were mainly from a modelling system, now they are trying to bung in any death to the total because the number just isn't high enough to warrant a shut down that will collapse an whole world economy. You've got Trump trying to get it opened up quickly in the states, I think whoever pulled this off have gone missing now in my opinion

Whoever it was, whatever group it was, I think they've bricked it and scarpered hence the sudden reopening of states in America, and Florida are demanding no more figures are given for "corona virus"

100k? I thought it was 40k?

A question to them... where are all the bloody bodies?

Have they been bunged into the back of empty car boots? a few tipped into the thames? a few bunged into the lofts?

Ridiculous, I know there's going to the opposite conspiracy theory but that is taking the pish

I was being a bit OTT but if Owen Jones or some other left wing bender posted 100k they would lap it up and rejoice, calling it a FACT

Neil Ferguson is still being as arrogant as ever too
He ought to be in a cell awaiting charges of malfeasance

The elderly might not have died without some illness being triggered

Elderly people get knocked clean out with a cold because their immune systems are done in, they haven't the lung capacity to cough up phlegm for example, I've been saying this for weeks in that if old people get a cold they are very much at risk of pneumonia, in fact its pretty much a given they'll get pneumonia if the cold lingers for more than a week in middle of winter, even a young fit and healthy man can get knocked for 6 with the flu ffs, it all depends how the body reacts and the brain capacity of the sufferer, knowing that the body producing the mucus fluid, well it needs to come out because its no good to the body long term.

Sky are utterly pathetic, the old can get the flu at any time of year and suffer badly with it, they might be right as reign one day but a little cold for them can turn into something a lot worse.

The numbers are a joke, 200,000 and now we're finding out a lot of these aren't even being tested for this thing, even the nutters running the show know that gig is up and trying to deflect away from it.

To play this up though and justify the lockdowns and crashing of economies they are going to have to do better than this

200,000 confirmed with iffyness of how they died isn't going to cut it

So far they're not doing a good job of justifying a lock down, if they ain't careful they are going to expose themselves even to the most ignorant

Gates grinning from ear to ear isn't helping them either, the arrogance of that tw*t is something else

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A personal perspective on the statistics.

My father-in-law died last Saturday.

He was 90 years old, had a great life and was a big man in every sense of the word.

For the last two years he has been living in a care home after being diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease, from which he got progressively worse. For the last three months he has been doubl-incontinent, unable to feed himself, unable to talk with very poor quality of life.

On Thursday morning we got a call saying his breathing was very poor and that this looked like the end. Tough old buzzard that he was, he hung on and hung on for anothr 60 hours but in the end the inevitable got him.

We picked up his death certificate to date which listed the causes of death as:

1. Respiratory failure (suspect Covid-19)
2. Alzheimer's
3. Frailty

He was never tested for Covid-19.

Those are the bare facts.

So my questions are (working this up to a nationwide-level and questioning the statistics of death being tossed about at present).

1.  Did my father-in-law die of Covid-19?
2.  If so by how many days did this bring forward the inevitable, which we, his family were all resigned to and had made our peace with?
3.  Are other co-morbidities being accounted for in deaths being wholly attributed to Covid-19?
4.  Are these methods of counting being replicated world-wide or even UK-wide?

FWIW when it comes to statistics I think we are counting apples against oranges and coming up with rhubarb. We're doing it for a sinister purpose, to keep the population scared and compliant and if you're not persuaded by this then ask why the major media organisations, without fail, lead their nightly bulleteins with the number of deaths from Coronavirus (which as I hope I've outlined, from first hand experience, is questionable) - never with the number that have recovered?

yes, i think we can all tell what you thought of him, Hanx. Good that the old boy heard your thoughts anyway

FWIW when it comes to statistics I think we are counting apples against oranges and coming up with rhubarb. We're doing it for a sinister purpose, to keep the population scared and compliant and if you're not persuaded by this then ask why the major media organisations, without fail, lead their nightly bulleteins with the number of deaths from Coronavirus (which as I hope I've outlined, from first hand experience, is questionable) - never with the number that have recovered?

Happy to acknowledge that the BBC News website leads with the news that 'More than 1,014,000 people known to have had the virus globally have recovered, Johns Hopkins University says'

....whilst noting that it has taken until May 1st for them to report this statistic.