tory mp,s fixation,obcession with garden centres

F**k off you stupid c**t

out for a walk around 12ish i counted 3 kebab shops open.the indians on the corner had a sign up saying they were open at 6pm. all within a 100 yards of each other.however smack in the middle of them was greggs and its closed.

earlier on the thread the complaint is aldi for example can sell plants/flowers etc,their supposed to be open for essential shopping only which doesn't include plants,so your fighting your own argument,garden centres will only want to open if they can sell their full range, then other shops which sell stuff that garden centres are now selling,will say why cant we open the garden centre down the road is selling furniture,fish,tools,electrical goods etc,etc
B n M, THE RANGE ETC have about 5% of their stock in food so have been open but are  selling jacuzzi,s,barbucue,s anything and everything,they don't just sell the food goods

lidl, aldi etc having been selling plants whilst obviously remaining open for ''essential'' shopping since day one of this
they're total sh!t but that's besides the point...

1st time poster doesn't understand!   The reason they make "pence" on plants is because the production cost is high relative to retail price. A huge percentage of the plant products garden centres sell are perishable/have a short shelf life. Therefore not being able to sell nursery stock means that the entire purchase price is written off not the pennies profit.   Actually on thinking about it Clacton has you about right.

so you think garden centre,s want to pay staff,electric, overheads etc to sell only plants

I think many privately owned garden centres may go bust or lose a helluva a lot of money for no reason. It would help to keep the lockdown solid if people could stay at home and do some gardening instead of going to the pub to meet their mates because they are bored out of their tiny.

So sad these people may be losing their businesses because we have a Government unable to think for themselves and are hiding behind scientists.

I have worked in the plant industry. To throw millions of plants away after months of growing them is devastating.
For the nursery owners its even worse. Their living is going down the drain as well.
1st time poster has no idea what that would be like.

a supermarket /B n Q is a major operation in staff ,inside /outside monitoring people in aisles one at a time,etc,you think they want to organise all that to sell plants at 50p a pop

Why dont you f**k off with your stupid comments

why would they sell only plants, people need spades, rakes etc along with compost, or bird food, gnomes etc etc obv cafes remain closed
and its up to each centre whether they open or not, maybe not essential but neither is the centre aisle of aldi selling wood burners for example

point been if shops can open with social distancing why arnt these tory mp,s asking for all shops to be open and not just garden centres

because 1TP

It is so bleedin' obvious

More shops should be allowed to open albeit gradually so yes they should ask the question.
But loads of people at home probably itching to do some garden work so why not?

Garden centres need to open quickly due to the limited time their plants will last and the time of year. DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.

Tory MPS are just looking after the interests of hard working business people who might lose everything. Isnt that what people would expect of their MP or should they just be looking after people like you who want to hide in their wardrobe for the next 5 years.

Garden Centers should be opened  SD followed , many sell other products as well ,I am not Percy Thrower but its nice to get a few flowers going in the spring ,Didn't know Labour supporters hated plants thought they were all for a bit of greenery ??

Well said Dotchinite.

1tp has a nice view of the local mosque from his bed sit ...

I have a beautiful view of hills from my window,and if anyone other than a white person walkw down my road someone calls a parish meeting its such a rare occurrence ,but glad to see the knuckledraggers judgement is up to its normal quality

It is simple,they are non essential.arguing about nursery owners losses isn't the point,restauranteurs,publicians, hairdressers,gyms all in the same boat really.

Rule one of Lockdown = You can only go shopping for necessities.

Because garden centres are populated by the old gits that vote for them

Maybe B & Q should only have been able to sell plumbing and electrical essentials.

I do not Think pots of Paint are Essential PA , Wilkos been open through out ,Now other hardware stores ...

1TP  Main Luvvie box ticked , lives in non diverse Area ...........

the simpler it is the harder the knuckdraggers struggle to understand,especialy when £ signs are involved

Plants for us in Topsham has been open since the lockdown.Its a tremendous Nursery where Physical distancing is paramount and implemented religiously by the staff.I have been to the Garden center twice and will know doubt visit again.This Government make it up as they go along...just to add i agree like most on here that 1st time poster is an utter knut.

Don't get me wrong,i would like to see gardens with flowers and looking well. Have sympathy with who ever grew them,it is a shocking waste.

Rule one of lockdown = you can only go shopping for necessities.

It makes a mockery of lockdown,cars would hit the road,fellas would be going for a bit of gear and tell plod i am just going to look for some luzula nivea and verbena bonariensis for my window boxes in the garden centre.

My latter remark applies to lapsy pa and aaronh btw

That is ok twizzle,

If garden centres can plead a special case, how many other currently closed businesses will also feel that they can plead a special case ?

Add Angoose to the list

There is a mounting financial catastrophe out there. BA just announced 12,000 redundancies in the offing. There will be many more and this will destroy lives too. People are burying their heads. Opening garden centres should not be a party political issue, just common sense.

If garden centres can plead a special case, how many other currently closed businesses will also feel that they can plead a special case ?


Plenty so why are they closed.

Why do you think they are closed ?

Not often i agree with WD...its the same as allowing incoming flights from around the globe.Everyone knows its  nonsensical but the Government have dug themselves into a hole and will lose face if they back track.Opening Garden centers falls into this category.

most garden centre,s on sunny weekend attract a crowd a 2nd div football team would be glad to attract,half a dozen in every area ,you might as well lift the lockdown,which the tory mp,s no will be the cry that's why they use garden centres as a trojan horse because they no pubs,cafes,etc would get short shrift

Open the businness's that are safe to open. Just because hairdressers cant open dosent mean others cant. Judge them on how they can be
regulated. Save as many peoples livings as possible. Dont just ruin jobs that could be saved.

Everyone knows its  nonsensical but the Government have dug themselves into a hole and will lose face if they back track.Opening Garden centres falls into this category.

Desperately sad that people are losing their lives and livelihoods because the Government does not want to lose face.

It is not about the science. It should be about common sense

Exactly

they shut them because they thought they wernt safe to open,whats changed health wise

If they can implement social distancing in Asda etc then why not garden centres or some other shops (like they have in Austria and Italy), if they dont comply they should be shut immediately.

I don't disagree with any of the above posts still the R infection number is maybe too high to implement changes?

A few people walking around outside is safer than being in a supermarket. Just common sense.

clacton is correct.  1st time poster couldn't give a monkey's whether the economy crashes or not.

at tills.checkouts etc supermarkets arnt doing socials distancing but they let it go because its considered essential shopping,buying pansy,s isnt

you are digging yourself a big hole 1TP

let it go.

ist time poster this that and the foooking other, you stupid fooooking loon only yesterday a poll showed 80% of the public are in no hurry to have lockdown lifted

Anyone who runs a shop selling non essentials should expect to receive the same treatment. If you're happy with that it is fine but it would be incredibly difficult to spin

So asda, aldi etc should not be allowed to sell anything other than essentials to keep the playing field level during this
best get the rozzers down there asap then to check those baskets

There is no information,you can see your local council amount of cases, say 600 tested and confirmed,you haven't a clue how many in your local area are carrying this and untested. Have a guess,yours is maybe better than mine multiply by 8? say 5000 in your local area that have caught this,carrying it but untested.

I think the goverment would like to allow business to re open but just maybe we are totally in the dark with actually is out there?

They are not happy with the R rate.

right wing daily mailphotoigrapher,s are down there,why not
mike Ashely been on after 6 weeks exercise people need new trainers,tracksuits,should sports shops be allowed to open

Apr 29, 2020 -- 3:17PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:

you are digging yourself a big hole 1TPlet it go.

He's not digging a hole at all, that is his point.
He's not going to visit the garden centre, he's not going to purchase a spade or any other digging implement

Here is what digging a hole looks like

1st time poster29 Apr 20 14:16Joined: 25 Dec 05 | Topic/replies: 38,961 | Blogger: 1st time poster's blog
at tills.checkouts etc supermarkets arnt doing socials distancing but they let it go because its considered essential shopping,buying pansy,s isnt

Perhaps they aren't in your leafy area but every supermarket around here in not so leafy Brum has had social distancing measures in place for ages, including at the tills.

Same applies to Council recycling centres btw...absolutely no reason why they should not be open.Only reason their not is because some Civil servant mandarin decided from the start they should be shut.No back tracking with this lot of stooges.

daily mail has spent 6 weeks shaming people buying non essentials from  THE RANGE on their frtont page,letting the green wellie  brigade buy plants isn't considered essential by anyone other than tory mp,s quickly followed by their millions oif lemmings,if Corbyn stood up at pmq,s and said people should be allowed to travel and spend the day at their allotments, the knuckledraggers would be wetting their knickers

knuckledraggers.Ist time poster heard this phrase in his travels and now has to use it on every occasion..think's he's being original

as opposed to liberal lefties

I always oppose liberal lefties

The irony of him using the words 'fixation' and 'obsession' clearly eludes him twizzle

*obcession

Plenty of people tend their allotments everyday, and they're at least 2m apart, Dig for Victory imo.

NEC..how embarrassing

I think more than anyone else on this forum 1st time poster is terrified of Covid 19. He may well have a good reason for this but he clearly has no care for anyones livelyhood and isnt the slightest bit interested in what if anything will be left of our economy. It hasnt occurred to him that the lockdown and the effects of it will probably end up killing far more than the virus.

As i have already pointed out to him ..its Know...not no

Dotchinite..the voice of reason and sensibility.

Think he's gone for his  T

you can open what you want pubs.schools,80% of people don't want lockdown lifted,do it and numbers go up,where does that you leave you,,we are a service economy which relies on people playing ball ,if they don't what then,
everything that turns the economy over is at the moment the last thing on 80% of the publics minmd,how do you think a spike will effect that thinking,

Germany eased restrictions on the 20th of April when the R rate was 0.7,today the R rate is 0.96. Now i will let you mull on that before you put your pansies above your Granny.

laspy pa. You should know its not as simple as that. How about the UN Report saying economic damage could leave 130 million people facing starvation?
How many people in this country will die if the economy collapses? At some point you have to take into account the economy. I dont see how anyone can dispute that.

How about the report suggesting HALF the workers in the entire world face immediate risk of losing their livelyhood?

I know exactly what you are saying Dotchinite,i agree with you in theory,sad fact the economy has collapsed in the short/mid term at least, no one/few aren't going to be scarred by social distancing etc,that is going to continue,the economy as was, is gone imo.

Just on the German thing,won't it be a shame if lockdown measures are reinforced? Good chance they tried a tad too early.

lapsy. yes it does look like they have moved a bit too quick.  The real problem comes when we get to the point where a lockdown cannot be continued regardless of cases. Hopefully everyone can find a way to ease restrictions without r going above 1 before that point is reached.

cheer up the tory party no how to handle 4 million unemployed,it was a price worth paying when 40,000 wernt dying so I,m sure they,ll handle it ok

That is the crux Dotchinite,you cannot morally let this rip through society, i know exactly what you are saying with the economy,that is going to happen anyway,it is ruined.Sheet choice between the two.

The figures are getting better and hope that continues,things may be better again in a couple of weeks which will allow baby steps.

and brexits going to make us all richer more better paid jobs, nice xmas present for us all

lapsy. Its damaged not ruined. Ruined will be when there isnt enough money to pay Nurses wages. I dont think you quite get what the implications could be. You certainly cant say morally you cant let this rip through if the alternative will be more deaths.

There is a point where the only option is to let it run its course as the alternative would be worse. Do you disagree with that?

you can let it runs its course if a spike comes the more will stay in and stay in for longer,they no they can avoid it by taking precautions,you cant force them out to take part in the economy,even if you starve the workers back ,we,re a service economy you cant force people to use the services

Ruined was a bit strong,it is limping along with vat,tax etc,it is getting something though well down.

I think now it is important to keep farms,food producers,medicine going,forget financials,travel,insurance and other non essentials for now,let them go bust,they will resurrect in time.

I still would be slow to let it run its course, i prefer getting and keeping the rate down and work from there,i think that timeline is very achievable and that might be just weeks.

You dont seem to consider the human suffering letting all these business go bust would cause and the shortfall in revenues needed to pay pensions, welfare and NHS.

If as you say the timeline was weeks then yes your option is fine. Im merely pointing out there is a point where shutting down will no longer be viable.

Your alternative won't work,people will get it,the NHS will be overrun,no one will go out as 1sttime says when they see pictures in the media.

I'm not sure how you are proposing to get the economy back, in what way can it?
It is a pandemic,you catch it off people, mask everyone up and a strict 2 metres?
That would work to some extent but still won't be a pre covid economy by a long way.

I suppose the answer will be the same as it was to the 1000,s of high street buisnesses that have gone under in last few years,
we,ll be able to judge the uk,s tory jobs miracle against our main competitors as this unfolds

dom talking about 2nd spike,germany etc etc, looks like the pansy,s will have to wait

lapsy. Well if it doesnt then its game over and this virus will be the least of our worries. The NHS wont even be there at this point.

lol, i am not Dominic Raab.

He answered all of above.

That is a good bit down the line Dotchinite re NHS, the whole world is in the same boat with economies so something will be/have to be drawn up.

weve reached the point when the rightest tory right winger of all time, has to tell the right wing loons they dont get it,,could be a ukip bounce ,fromage return again

tory mp,s fixation,obcession with garden centres

But does it match your obsession with the tory party thats the real question?

tory party is in charge ,all questions on a postcard to doris care of 10 downing street

You get called a "total ****" on this thread, Dominic Raab(acting Prime Minister) gave the exact same answer and no one called him a "total ****".

Shame on a ya Twizzle,ya fookin langer.

To be fair ive heard lots of people call Raab that.

its pretty simple raabs a brexiteer = correct
your not = wrong

in the land of the loons

the fact your saying exactly the same thing ,means rock all in la la land
I see priti has given free one year visa,s to low killed workers in the nhs woirkers to go along with nurses ans putting flights on for fruit pickers can see immigration going up next year under the brexiteers

Love them smilies, no one would ever guess you are drowning in tears.

watching right wing tory brexiteers flouncing around bringing in left wing policies,  encouraging migrant workers to stay and others to come, is one of lives joys,just disappointed francois,pattinson,bridgen,bone,jenkins, etc arnt fighting to get on tv to enjoy it with us,

they are too busy arranging eu citizenship like mr farrage

mr desmond swayne was trying to arrange a mutiny last time I heard him speak in commons today he forcefully demanded the local garden centre should be allowed to open, wow steady on big fella , calm downm

sell them eu plants they have ordered ...

even the tea pot manufacturing has stopped,donald and lizz must be seething,

no mugs with baby johnson 11th on ?

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