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Report UBLE/REGY April 28, 2020 1:58 PM BST
Yes  case money may have been better spent on more PPE for Medical StaffSad
Report eyeball April 28, 2020 2:17 PM BST
My sister in law works A&E in a London Hospital . Only seeing 30 people a day and there are over a 100 empty beds . Wonder what the total is over the UK ?
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 2:24 PM BST
Its the flu, and we are getting to the end of the season so numbers are naturally dropping the closer we get to May

They've murdered a lot of old folk in nursing homes though, A LOT!!!!

The more data you get the more its affecting the over 70s and underlying health sufferers

You've been had on a massive scale and I wont ever forgive people for allowing the deaths of old people like this SadSad

Mentally sick
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 2:25 PM BST
Banning family meeting in the lock down was a way of getting the old off the books

Sick twisted bas*ards and people just let them get away with it
Report layingisthewayforward April 28, 2020 2:33 PM BST
Have you forgotten to take your medication today?
Report 1st time poster April 28, 2020 2:36 PM BST
if you locked 200 under 50,s in a building and sent in someone from hospital who,s tested positive for corona and didn't let anyone out and repeated this in  10,000 other buildings,you might find a good few more under 50,s dying, Wink
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 2:40 PM BST
No under 50s are dying, its about 0.5%

You can apply some BS logic to bring about deaths but if my granny had a penis she'd still be my granny in todays society so its pointless logic

DATAAAAAAAA you lot were so big on that early doors, but now its going against your agendas/narrative talking points its no longer relevant is it ?!?!

Old people have been allowed to die during this, some predicted this was the agenda and its playing out exactly like that, the proof is there for all to see, with the data, the information coming out the lot
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 2:42 PM BST
Data means jack now, because there's 1000s upon 1000s of deaths in care homes etc, no one under 50 is dying of this thing

The % of people dying under 50/60 is about 0.5%, and even then most of them had underlying health conditions

Its comical
Report eyeball April 28, 2020 2:43 PM BST
and you might notCrazy
Report TheGoldenVision April 28, 2020 2:44 PM BST
Worldwide conspiracy then?
Report eyeball April 28, 2020 2:44 PM BST
That is a reply to !st time poster
Report 1st time poster April 28, 2020 2:45 PM BST
so you think 20,000 under 50,s locked in  buildings with tested positive people,with no testing and poor access to ppe to those looking after them and denied access to hospital ,wouldn't have resulted in more under 50,s dying,
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 2:47 PM BST
How do you explain the lack of deaths under 50s?

I mean come on wake the fack up, why do you think there's no clamour to give age stats out? because it would become apparent they shut your country and economy down for nothing more than a strain of flu that's knocked off its usual demographics

1st time posters just trying to apply something that isn't there as well, the data showed it was affecting mainly over 60s ffs

Its all there now
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 2:48 PM BST
I mean there's no attempt to hide it now, they ain't giving age stats out but they expose themselves daily by their own talking points
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 2:50 PM BST
You said give it 2 months and we'd have a clearer picture

2 months later and its time to apply makes no sense logic because you know deep down you've been fooled, you can't admit it to yourself, and lying to yourself is the worst sin of all
Report 1st time poster April 28, 2020 2:53 PM BST
136 nhs/care workers dead, wouldn't have thought many were over 70
Report TheGoldenVision April 28, 2020 2:55 PM BST
Not wishing to argue but if it's seasonal flu, which is now ending here, why didn't this seasonal flu reach a peak in Australia and New Zealand last September/October as it usually does each year? Just a thought.
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 2:57 PM BST
Its like this new logic going round about England and penalties, because 90% of them go in in game it somehow means we're the best at them

When the pressure is on however we miss the crucial one's, our record in shootouts is won 2 lost about 8

136 out of 40,000? and have you seen some of these nurses and care workers? a heart attack walking most of them, most of them are obese/overweight and are diabetic ffs

TheGoldenVision go and check the stats and have a look at this for Australia https://globalnews.ca/news/5435232/australia-flu-season-canada/
Report 1st time poster April 28, 2020 2:58 PM BST
it wasn't seasonal flu 3 weeks ago when sed someone was crying like a baby ,my screens still covered in the tears
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 2:59 PM BST
They had a massive spike in 2019

Its the flu, and they haven't actually given proper death stats out in years, its mainly an estimated
Report 1st time poster April 28, 2020 3:00 PM BST
like DORIS the daft kooont probably caught it whilst snooping around hospitals seeing what all the fuss was about, LaughLaugh
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 3:00 PM BST
When I said 40,000 I'm pretty much adding in the numbers they ain't reporting at this time because they want the conspiracy theories Cry

40,000 isn't even bad either, its about up there with our worst flu seasons
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 3:01 PM BST
and that number will fall throughout summer and then return in "the fall"

Watch and see Plain
Report eyeball April 28, 2020 3:03 PM BST
1st time poster . It does not mater what I THINK . All of my posts are based on empirical data or personal experience . I just give facts or hypothesis based on fact . Don't see the point posting hearsay or conjecture . If you don't agree with the facts or the potential outcome gleaned from them , that is fine . It is a country of free speech and it is your prerogative to talk tosh .Love
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 3:04 PM BST
And what's this new syndrome going round in the young?

Wouldn't be from vaccines would it?
Report 1st time poster April 28, 2020 3:09 PM BST
I,m making the point that the local loon thinks 1000,s of deaths in over 70,s in carehomes proves his point about it only effecting elderly people, but if 50,s and under were kept in same condition the number of under 50,s would rise,as proved by deaths of nhs/careworkers
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 3:13 PM BST
How do you know this? you can't just come out with that c*** and then pass it off as gospel

100 people? is that it? you'd think with how contagious and lethal this things all hospital staff would be laid up in bed or worst still dead

100 people? and how many of them had underlying health conditions and how old were they? my guess is 70% of them had underlying health conditions and were obese and/or overweight

Not exactly a number to strengthen your argument 1tp
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 3:14 PM BST
Its spreading like wildfire, but yet 99% of care/hospital workers seem fine

How many care workers/hospital workers die throughout a normal winter?

Its not like they are invincible 1tp, people die its just part of life
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 3:15 PM BST
And what about shop workers? don't seem to be hearing much about them

They want you to put the health workers on a pedestal and idolise them as "heroes"

We'll be having minute silences for them next
Report 1st time poster April 28, 2020 3:16 PM BST
why do you think some of the fittest,chiseled bodies around the world under 50,s inside prisons are murdering,fighting each other trying to get out of basically the same conditions old people are in ,in carehomes
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 3:19 PM BST
Where you did hear that?

BBC? CNN? 

There's riots and protests in prisons all the time 1tp

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-49459094

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43929130

Every year there's riots and deaths, its a prison full of violent men 1tp, this s*** happens daily I'd guess, fights break out and they kick 7 bells out of each other
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 3:20 PM BST
This will be an excuse for them to kick off I'd imagine and they don't need much of one to kick off either

Stories about hot boiling suger water being thrown into guards faces every week, I'd lay low if I was in one keep out of trouble as much as I could
Report eyeball April 28, 2020 3:49 PM BST
1st time poster . You just don't read my posts .You ignore bits , take sections out of context and make assumptions without evidence .

You obviously have the figures for murders amongst the under 50 , chiselled inmates in the prison system so please post . Cheers , I look forward

to reading your research data .
Report 1st time poster April 28, 2020 4:25 PM BST
same as people trapped on cruise ships,

fooook me if your that fooooking thick that you cant work out been stuck in a carehome,hospital,prison,cruise ship, etc with positive infrect corona people your more likely to catch a bad dose of this virus ,theres no hope for you,lets try again at least 136 nhs,care workers,dozen bus drivers,all aged under 65,all fit for working dying from the virus, the reason been ?
Report Dotchinite April 28, 2020 4:46 PM BST
Sontaran. Its pointless arguing with him. I gave him all the official stats but he is more interested in scare stories from the Mail.
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 5:22 PM BST
They are having to move the goal posts now dotch

Now hospital deaths are coming down they are now fear dooming us all with care homes Crazy I think its disgusting and beyond the pale to be honest, the only way to keep the populace under their thumb is to just straight up bully and scare them it seems, they haven't got a good bone in their body

1tp and what were the %s of over 60s that died on these cruise ships?

Another pointless stat that goes against your agenda but heyho
Report eyeball April 28, 2020 5:23 PM BST
1st time poster . You think I am thick ? I would lose you mentally and physically . You are a a feking amoeba . Of course you are more likely to catch the virus . You are almost certain to catch it . It doesn't mean you will die . Read the data on those that have died in the nhs . I won't bother putting up the groups that are affected disproportionately . You won't read them anyway . Do you think people are bothered if they show none or limited effects to the virus ?

I will repeat just for you -

Mortality rates are significantly higher in the following section of the population

care home residents

those over 60

BAME

Those with underlying health conditions particularly those with diabetes and cardio vascular conditions

Obese with a BMI over 30

These make up over 95% of the deaths . I do not know the exact figure due to lack of released figures from governments world wide .
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 5:26 PM BST
95% but I'd argue its more 98% when you take into account the under 30s were actually in hospital for other conditions

Hospitals are the last place you want to be when your body is fighting toxins Plain, they hook you up to ventilators and bed rid you Sad, you need to be moving about and keeping the body active, increase the body temp manually with exercise, keep the lung capacity high

Not stuck in a coma on a ventilator ffs
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 5:27 PM BST
We're the only country that are creating various different charts for this that and the other

Its pathetic really
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 5:29 PM BST
Oh and giving them the virus without testing them, they've owned up to that again today Crazy
Report eyeball April 28, 2020 5:38 PM BST
SS , it is probably nearer 99% but I do not have the evidence to support that so I underestimated the figure .
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 5:42 PM BST
Its all agendas to remove rights, freedoms and food ie meat and dairy etc

I find it rather pathetic that we're heading into a new world without one bit of pushback

Sad
Report wondersobright April 28, 2020 5:54 PM BST

Apr 28, 2020 -- 5:26PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


95% but I'd argue its more 98% when you take into account the under 30s were actually in hospital for other conditions Hospitals are the last place you want to be when your body is fighting toxins , they hook you up to ventilators and bed rid you , you need to be moving about and keeping the body active, increase the body temp manually with exercise, keep the lung capacity high Not stuck in a coma on a ventilator ffs


quite right SS & 5.42pm

Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 6:09 PM BST
And I love some of the graphs being pushed out the MSM

England is on a moon trajectory compared to Spain/Italy etc

We've got to scare the living daylights out of people LaughLaugh its not going to work because you can't scare people for long, eventually the brain has a way of shutting itself off to it, people will just ignore it after a bit

They have already started getting tired of it and venturing out again, hence the pathetic desperation setting in to keep people glued to it
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 6:11 PM BST
Its like the bully who rows back the threats, threatening to kill someone is a bad idea because there's nowhere to go after that, you can't say "I'll half kill you" can you

Make the threat scary but don't overplay it Crazy
Report wondersobright April 28, 2020 6:13 PM BST
wait until the 2nd wave & the sh1t actually connects with the fan!!
oh we told you we needed tighter lockdowns, you were too cavalier
stay at home until you get your shot
the pinnacle of good health a witch's brew of chemicals & nano tech LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 6:18 PM BST
The 2nd wave will need to hit in October onwards, unless by June they've cured all other deaths but the illnesses remain ie stroker, heart attacks etc... if you get my meaning Plain
Report Injera April 28, 2020 6:19 PM BST
Anyone understand the importance of testing?

All those admitted with serious symptoms will be tested.
Everyone else is social distancing.

What’s the point of testing asymptomatic people when they’re not mixing with other households?

Isn’t it better to put up as many health workers and care staff in hotels as possible? Contain the virus in hospitals and care homes. Ring of steel around them.
Report SontaranStratagem April 28, 2020 6:21 PM BST
Kids don't catch covid 19, they get some cousin to it, with its cousin being a syndrome LaughCrazy

This just gets more bizarre by the day
Report wondersobright April 28, 2020 7:33 PM BST
sounds like the kids over the pond will be getting covid-20/21 judged by the massive amount of "installs" going on over there during lockdown
Report casemoney April 28, 2020 7:42 PM BST
As Eye said earlier , Hospitals far from Full capacity , Once numbers Low enough with CO VID Isolate the disease to the Gales ..

Dedicated CO VID staff
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