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Remember Whitty said 20000 deaths would be a good result..we are now around 40000(care home and at home included) and we will be far and away the worst
country in Europe when this is all over.Cummings/Bojo gambled on bad flu/herd immunity eugenic approach..we are now reaping their reward. |
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We have absolutely no idea on how many within the poulation have had Coronavirus ... everthing is guesstimates
Even if we can't do wholesale track & trace we can surely run tests for a representative sample which might give at least a realistic idea of numbers The Gov't seem to be running on a delay mechanism without any real understanding of future prospects (who does) ... my guess is they are hoping to see some positive results coming from elsewhere in Europe so they can then formulate a release strategy of sorts ... will there be a 2nd wave or more ... we simply don't know but they need to tell people what their ideas are for moving forward whilst shielding the vulnerable |
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How come all the nightingale hospitals are empty? how come the normal hospitals are well within capacity?
If there's 600+ people dying a day the hospitals would be overwhelmed. EVERYDAY there's 600+ people dying, more and more are supposedly going into ICU? there's 1200 hospitals in the country and there's 1000s upon 1000s entering them? we'd see a health collapse ffs  How many ICUs in each hospital? how many beds in each ICU? Sorry but the maths are not adding up, and now people want to add double onto the cases and double onto the deaths total ffs  |
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figures down again today, will be lower tomorrow
hey boris the clown is back get them figures massaged get all deaths out on friday etc etc |
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stridingedge
26 Apr 20 13:02 Joined: 14 Sep 10 | Topic/replies: 56,358 | Blogger: stridingedge's blog Insider Trader it's pointless comparing countries we have seen the variances, studies vary massively. You need to concentrate on the data in this country. ^ I am sorry but we have to look at other countries. We have no idea what would have happened in the UK if we had advised the vulnerable and older people to isolate and let everyone else out with voluntary social distancing. What we can do is look at other countries with different policies and see how they are getting on. Scientists like to praise China and South Korea but Sweden and Belarus we are told... 'oh they are different you cannot compare countries'. We have to look everywhere. Yesterday Ferguson said Sweden will suffer badly from they policy. That is his prediction. If he would put out his computer model maybe we could run it for Sweden for back in March and see if he predicted 100,000 deaths there. But will Ferguson refusing to release his code we are all in the dark. He can keep claiming without lockdown styel choosen we would have been overwhelmed. |
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would think doris would want numbers up/at least static,if they come down more pressure to lift some of restrictions
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Every country has exactly the same at risk groups dying and everyone else , who may have had or are carrying the virus are not . Until the government and "experts" realise this , the same at risk groups will keep dying until the pandemic runs its course .
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Of course they realize it.
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Name me one current world sportsman or woman who has died.....
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and Norman Hunter does not count
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Insider Trader you keep mentioning countries that were at different stages and did things differently from the beginning.
You can't take a study in one part of another country and extrapolate it to fit the uk. |
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Has Ferguson asked the elderly what they want?
Imagine being 80 and told no more visits except by Skype and your day entails nurses in PPE serving you meals I'd rather pop my clogs |
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Anyone answer my question ?
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Sure, zero.
Pretty weird to be a current sportsman and also dead. I think I'd have a good chance at that game if so. |
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not much comfort for about 70 million ,if been an elite sportsmen is some sort of barrier to virus
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in 8 weeks that means the message has changed from anyone under 60 been ok ,to elite sportsmen,
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Rod Liddle in the Sunday Times a couple of weeks ago re NF forecasts:
2005 200m to die of bird flu . Actual number 282 over 6 years 2009 Swine flu had a 0.4% mortality rate and 65000 British people might die . Mortality rate 0.026% and 457 died BSE 50000 to die -actual number 177. Now imagine he was on the Apprentice. Sir Alan “So you forecast sales of 200m -how many sales did you make?" NF (shifts uneasily)282 Sir Alan “Then you was involved in another project where you forecast sales of 65000. And the result was? NF (squirms) 457 Sir Alan “Finally you was project manager for another campaign. What were the figures” NF (looking at the ground and mumbling) “Projection 50000, actual number 177” Sir Alan “Why should I keep you on?” NF “Well this is what my model said” Sir Alan “At least a stopped clock is right twice a day. Your models don't work son. You’re fired”. |
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1st time poster ,the reason I picked out professional sports persons is because they are monitored by doctors and physiotherapists unlike the majority of the population . This shows the disparity between fit , active and monitored individuals as opposed to those who are not .
Tell me the world wide deaths from covid 19 who are white , under 60 , have no underlying health conditions with a bmi under 30 . |
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Go on , you have the whole world to look at . 8 billion people . Firstly find out the % that are white and go from there .
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Its clear in England that up to now with 18000+ deaths that only about a dozen were under 40 with no underlying conditions. Yet we still get people trying to pretend it effects everyone. Some here have an agenda and my guess is they want everyone to be as scared as they are so the lockdown is maintained.
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Dotchinite , you have a brain and are not a member of the bovidae
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Has anyone under the age of 40, with no underlying health conditions, become infected ?
Has anyone under the age of 40, with no underlying health conditions, consumed NHS resources after becoming infected ? Has anyone under the age of 40, with no underlying health conditions, passed the virus to others ? |
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No one under 40 has died of the flu WITHOUT underlying health conditions
And the last place I'd go if I had the sodding thing is the hospital, I coped just fine with the flu a couple of years ago without drugs and ventilators and oxygen tanks thank you very much Nature will take its course, and will do it if you take the "special potions" or not , we didn't get this far with vaccines ffs |
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Angoose. the answer to all three is obviously Yes but explain the point you are trying to make.
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even if they don't no it most of the world has at least one underlying condition,and most don't die of them
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common in uk
high blood pressure high cholesterol diabete,s typr 2 obese would all be classed as underlying conditions for starters |
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Most of the world does not have an underlying condition. Why do you exaggerate all the time.
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most of the world does have at least one underlying condition ,ive just listed 4/5 which would include millions .upon millions of uk public for starters
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been blind or death doesnt kill you ,till your hit by a double decker bus ,because you didn't see or hear it,they then become underlying conditions causing your death
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Most implies a majority and a decent one at that. Its plainly not true.
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High chloresterol is stretching it a bit as well.
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Diabetes is the most common, most of us probably have that to some varying degree because we such utter cr*p on a daily basis Processed food and fizzy drinks etc |
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you don't believe a majority of the world if having an MOT WOULDNT HAVE AT LEAST ONE UNDERLYING CONDITION, I ouldnt bet on it you,d lose a lot of money
ive just give you 4/5 which millions of uk population would have, heart problems hayfever vitamin deficiency asthma. theres 4 more that take out millions more if you've avoided the 1st 5 |
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Hayfever and vitamin deficieny. Now you are on the wind up.
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Hayfever is now a symptom of covid 19
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lack of vitamin d been put forward as a reason for bame people dying so deffo be going down as an underlying condition
add in liver functions and lung problems for cdrinkers and smokers and theres a few million more on the list after them 12 dont think there,ll be many still standing, |
