vitamin D protection

doesnt italy and spain get alot of sun

Yes but no good if you are sitting in doors.....

Too right dude

and plenty of fresh air

Far from being fined or arrested fir sunbathing in a park people should be advised to do so

Dumfukkery in Government has spread to scientists and medical officers

Experts my a*rse!

Stick with Betfair forum, we know!

Apr 21, 2020 -- 10:53AM, GAZO wrote:

doesnt italy and spain get alot of sun

Not over the winter.

vitamin d has been under reported for years

all that rain we had keeping folk indoors cant have helped.




all this sunshine during the lockdown really has been a godsend

exactly!!

haven't heard it once being said on TV about how to boost your immune system
funny that

Just hope we get a bit of Rain in some areas  , I cannot remember a drier April ,thus far ,

All we need is a shortage of water

no shortage of water case...v wet autumn & winter
has been v dry though

three weeks more sunshine during lockdown would be great.

rain at night once the meteors have gone would be even better.

3 weeks , Can only hope so , cannot see it

Very depressed after today's numbers , regardless of weekends or whatever  ...

Any "D" in Eggs doing egg on toast to cheer meself up ...

yeah eggs a good source of all vits case...eat white & yolk

Spend most of my time researching sports but as no sports on , that I play , decided to look into coronavirus . I'm no virologist but have found studies that tend to show trends that seem too obvious to ignore .

Won't bore anyone with the month of compiled data but here is a flavour https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2855046/
there are links to other studies

good stuff eye

Very few if any of the “ Experts “ have mentioned the importance of boosting your immune system via good diet and exercise

So many “ Experts “ on the Betfair forum! Just a shame none are in the Government!

I’d take breath taking arrogance over astounding stupidity all day long.

They don’t know what they are doing. Now getting scientific officers to lie or mislead the public

I've been taking Vitamin D all winter....I felt better by about 15%  mood-wise after 3 days

you won't get sufficient vitamin D  over winter  ...whether In UK or Italy or Spain  ...

Lombardy gets the same sun hours as southern England throughout the year  ...Northern Spain gets similar or less  ... but that doesn't make any odds anyway

please understand this  ...


the sun needs to be at a certain angle ...it could be sunny 365 days a year ...but it has to be  at the 45degree angle ...that's only possible from late March onwards in the UK  ...which means elderly and youngters alike are going to be lacking as the body acn only store vit D for around 3-4 months  ....food is a very poor source of Vit D

you won't get sufficient vitamin D  over winter  ...whether In UK or Italy or Spain  ...

Lombardy gets the same sun hours as southern England throughout the year  ...Northern Spain gets similar or less  ... but that doesn't make any odds anyway

please understand this  ...


the sun needs to be at a certain angle ...it could be sunny 365 days a year ...but it has to be  at the 45degree angle ...that's only possible from late March onwards in the UK  ...which means elderly and youngters alike are going to be lacking as the body acan only store vit D for around 3-4 months  ....food is a very poor source of Vit D

those that have been sunbathing or getting regular amounts  to a good surface area since  March will have more than enough   ...

it has been sunny pretty much every day now for around those 30 days ....

covid  doesn't seem to like UV

btw ...after 2pm  it's useless  ...check the length of the suns shadow using a stick or ruler

One small tin of sardines or a salmon fillet will give you your recommended vitamin D for the day .

Take a Vit D pill .....much simpler

^ ...as I do.

How about fish finger sarnies?

The Vitamin D most widely available is too low a a dose to do any significant good.
You really need to get yourself "Vitamin D optimised".
Personally, I usually take 15,000 UI's per day for the month of October each year, followed by 5,000 UI's per day for the rest of winter and up until about the end of April, after which I just let the summer sun do it's stuff before starting over again in October.
Seems to have worked for me instead of the flu jab each year.

https://www.mitofit.org/images/e/ec/Brown_et_al_2020_MitoFit_Preprint_Arch_d...

A remarkable recent preprint (Alipio),[26] entitled, ‘Vitamin D supplementation could possibly improve clinical outcomes of patients infected with Coronavirus-2019 (COVID-19)’, examines vitamin D status, and hospitalization outcomes in 212 COVID-19 patients, using 4 categories: (1) Mild – without pneumonia, (2) Ordinary – confirmed pneumonia with fever, (3) Severe – hypoxia and respiratory distress, (4) Critical – respiratory failure requiring intensive case monitoring. Alipio observes, “Vitamin D status is significantly associated with clinical outcomes (p

A remarkable recent preprint (Alipio),[26] entitled, ‘Vitamin D supplementation could possibly improve clinical outcomes of patients infected with Coronavirus-2019 (COVID-19)’, examines vitamin D status, and hospitalization outcomes in 212 COVID-19 patients, using 4 categories: (1) Mild – without pneumonia, (2) Ordinary – confirmed pneumonia with fever, (3) Severe – hypoxia and respiratory distress, (4) Critical – respiratory failure requiring intensive case monitoring. Alipio observes, “Vitamin D status is significantly associated with clinical outcomes (p

A remarkable recent preprint (Alipio),[26] entitled, ‘Vitamin D supplementation could possibly improve clinical outcomes of patients infected with Coronavirus-2019 (COVID-19)’, examines vitamin D status, and hospitalization outcomes in 212 COVID-19 patients, using 4 categories: (1) Mild – without pneumonia, (2) Ordinary – confirmed pneumonia with fever, (3) Severe – hypoxia and respiratory distress, (4) Critical – respiratory failure requiring intensive case monitoring. Alipio observes, “Vitamin D status is significantly associated with clinical outcomes (p75 nmol/l (30 ng/ml). Deficient were those below 50 nmol/l (20 ng/ml). Deficiency definitions vary:

all fits in with UVA

UVA  produces vitamin D

Alipio observes, “Vitamin D status is significantly associated with clinical outcomes (p

ffs , can't cut and paste

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1548/rr-6

Government have got to cotton on soon . There have been numerous reports and studies released in the last few days . What is wrong with them ?

they put fluoride in our water and vitimin k in stuff to help our health.


surely it cant be long until they twig dosing folk correctly with vitamin d is a massive step forward
at very little cost.

Nobody in the government answers my emails . Too busy with coronavirus is the stock reply . Decided to speak to my uncle today , who is a retired doctor and he was very interested in the research . He told me his wife had suffered from respiratory tract and lung problems for a while which I did not know . She was advised to see a specialist who took a blood test and found she was vitamin D deficient . She was treated with vitamin D supplement and has had no further problems .

Found this :

How Much Vitamin D Should You Take?

How much vitamin D you need depends on many factors. These include age, race, latitude, season, sun exposure, clothing and more.

Recommendations from the US Institute of Medicine suggest that an average daily intake of 400–800 IU, or 10–20 micrograms, is adequate for 97.5% of individuals (21Trusted Source, 22Trusted Source).

However, some studies have shown that the daily intake needs to be higher than that if you aren’t being exposed to sun.

Depending on who you ask, blood levels above 20 ng/ml or 30 ng/ml are considered as “sufficient.” One study of healthy adults showed that a daily intake of 1120–1680 IU was needed to maintain sufficient blood levels (23Trusted Source).

In the same study, individuals who were vitamin D deficient needed 5000 IU to reach blood levels above 30 ng/ml.

Studies in postmenopausal women with vitamin D levels below 20 ng/ml found that ingesting 800–2000 IU raised blood levels above 20 ng/ml. However, higher doses were needed to reach 30 ng/ml (24Trusted Source, 25Trusted Source).

Overweight or obese individuals may also need higher amounts of vitamin D (26Trusted Source, 27Trusted Source).

All things considered, a daily vitamin D intake of 1000–4000 IU, or 25–100 micrograms, should be enough to ensure optimal blood levels in most people.

4000 IU is the safe upper limit according to the Institute of Medicine (IOM). Make sure not to take more than that without consulting with a health professional.

BOTTOM LINE:
Vitamin D intake is recommended at 400–800 IU/day, or 10–20 micrograms. However, some studies suggest that a higher daily intake of 1000–4000 IU (25–100 micrograms) is needed to maintain optimal blood levels.

if you take it internally like that you only need it in the months of January , February and March  unless you work as a coal miner or work nights permanantly

Coachbuster , i'm afraid that is not true amongst certain groups . have a google up . if you can't find the info here is the latest study from Eire

https://tilda.tcd.ie/publications/reports/pdf/Report_Covid19VitaminD.pdf

yeah all that is deffo true ...   wasn't aware about those with lung issues  at risk .

most important to get sun exposure in the months of aug/september for storage purposes  ...that should see you through until the new year .


march/ april good build up times ...tank should be full by end of april /may if you're outside a fair bit

the oldies at risk more  as they spend a lot of time indoors or in the shade ...probably would advise the supps    ...not many folk like sardines and mackerel that much  lol

I have been drinking everyday since lockdown with the obligatory weight gain I decided to partake in sardines and salad for lunch. I was under the impression I would  be getting about 20g of protein and some vitamin D from a tin.

Ordinarily I prefer fresh fish but fresh sardines are a little harder to come by in Chatham. Am I losing much with the tinned sardines presumably in some sort of preservative?

Done half bottle of factor 20
Over lock down , the sun beds been put away again now till summer
Had great run weather me family look like had two week break at Costa s
Set for two months of rain in next week or two it said
End of lockdown going to be boring as **** indoors

One farmed salmon fillet will give 50% of rdi

One wild salmon fillet will give 100% of rdi

One small tin of herring or sardines will give 25% of rdi

One egg yolk will give 5% of rdi

fortified cereal will give 15% of rdi

tin of tuna will give 33% of rdi (contains methylmercury)so no more than two tins per week

mushrooms and spreads have trace amounts but contain D2 and not D3 which have been found to be not as effective .

Skin exposed to sunlight makes vitamin D from Cholesterol in the cells . Make up your own minds for exposure (too many variables)

Check the packaging of items you buy . They should tell the you percentage of recommended daily intake (RDI) in a serving or by weight .

The above percentages are rough estimates .

Hope you all keep well

Is Whitstable too Posh for you Deafy

you having a laugh wk

Been down to The Neptune many a time. I also think you might be a little confused just because I mix with blackguards, thieves and sons of ****s does not mean I am without poshicity. I wouldn't ashley say Whitstable is posh. Most of North Kent is rough and ready. I visit the Oyster House from time to time. I tried to pay with my Oyster Card once and broke down in fits of laughter when the waitress just looked at me blankly. It was reminiscent of pre covid times when the chinese waiter brought the food and said duck. We would all duck under the table and laugh uncontrollably.

I prefer to go out round Maidstone to traditonal ye olde English pubs on the Pilgrims Way. Good beer, good food, good times. I wouldn't dream of taking Mrs 'Death to pubs in Medway. She wouldn't get out of the car. She thinks pubs in Portobello Road are rough.

one pub I go to in Medway sells wine for five pounds a bottle. That is a 750ml bottle not a 250ml single drink bottle

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D

Entire subject is not as simple as it sounds, rather the opposite, as for Rdi, it's a one size fits all measurement, not sure it does fit ALL.If it was as simple as just taking D3 there would not be a problem but clearly it's not that simple and appears there is little understanding of the complexities surrounding the subject. 

As for farmed Salmon, again next to zero understanding of the actual diff in what a wild fish eats to gain its high vit levels and what a farmed fish is fed and the diff this makes. Its a subject steeped in propaganda due to farmed fish being fake, destroying the environment they are kept in and the end product being a very cheap imitation of the real thing. As for vit levels of farmed fish,doubt they can supply the required levels, they can supply plenty pcb and other toxic chemicals.

As for quoting wild Pacific, it's anything but, it's part farmed, ranched is the term and again been through a "feed lot" process.

Recently due to covid-19 the Scottish gov has allowed salmon farmers (mostly Norwegian company's) to use as they see fit  the toxic  chemicals that everyone has campaigned so hard to have restricted , the once pristine waters are a chemical soup, it's a disaster, disease and pests are killing the wild form of the fish the farms imitate, its fake fish and cannot be seriously consumed regularly by any self respecting person.

The people talking about D2 are more on the money imo, it can't be good shorting the bodies  process, similar to diabetes, too much sugar via mouth  and the body loses ability to regulate, could Vit D be same? Would be looking to complement and   maximise bodies ability to create the required levels naturally  rather than contstantly supplement with high levels of D3. MOO.
The truth is out thar.

Sittingbourne got be worse than Medway

My Nan lived there back in 90s

As 12-14 year old it was like going back into 70s
Well that’s what my dad use to say
Jeez that was gods waiting room come to think of it back than
Been there many times since but only for the dog racing

tt

yes Sittingbourne completely boring with little to do except avoid being robbed by the Pikey's who have a camp don the road. It was once raided by armed police and they found something like 200 stolen cars there.

200 

Still no mention from the government on the over riding evidence from studies and data from academics throughout the world on the benefits of

vitamin D . The statistics clearly show that those who are deficient have a far greater chance of dying than those who are not . Why is it being

ignored . Are there hidden agendas ?

Guarenteed

The local cops would not go in without armed back up.

For eyeball...and the Government...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8277775/People-low-levels-Vitamin-D-likely-die-COVID-19-infection.html



the scientists from Queen Elizabeth Hospital Foundation Trust and the University of East Anglia write in their study: 'We believe, that we can advise Vitamin D supplementation to protect against SARS-CoV2 infection.'

This finding backs up a separate study which also found vitamin D may improve a person's chance of recovery after contracting the coronavirus.

A ten-week trial from the University of Granada is currently ongoing after a recent study by Trinity College Dublin found adults who took Vitamin D supplements saw a 50 per cent fall in chest infections.