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casemoney 19 Apr 20 16:26
I am optimistic ,Felt sure we would have hit a thousand hospital deaths by now , To only have 1800 Covid in hospital is exceptionally low We are in lockdown, of course the figures will go down, it's running out of victims, the falling figures are only encouraging if they are in light of normal socializing on the streets. If the virus could talk what do you think it would ask us to do? |
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Me and my Mrs are from large familys all spread across S/E London... we,ve not heard of anyone being ill YET .
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so thats 28, 000 rising
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My father , in lockdown for 4 weeks along with my mother in total isolation , was admitred to hospital on Monday with a serious heart problem (89 yrs old with 2 previous cardiac arrests) . A swab taken by a paramedic before he left the house was tested and on Friday we were told it was COVID-19 positive . He was critically ill and we were told to expect the worse . He has responded well to treatment and an hour ago we received a call telling us that , provided he doesn't relapse , he will be able to return home . Would this be correct procedure if he had coronavirus given the fact that my mother is 86 and is classed as 'at risk' ? Of course not !
Basically , he was diagnosed as positive so that in the event he passed away with heart failure he would be added to the "with coronavirus" statistic that you and others keep churning out . If we really were in the midst of a COVID-19 pandemic there would be absolutely no need to bump up the figures the way they have been . Conclusion : It is highly unlikely that there is a coronavirus pandemic  |
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Let's hope that your father makes a full recovery.
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Reynard
Don't waste your breath with goosey, he's a melon who's either getting off on this or he has shares in Billys vaccine  |
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The coming financial meltdown will kill waaaaay more than this virus could dream off
The nightingale hospitals are for that in my honest opinion |
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i found it strange how they predicted after big numbers in london area, which i understood due to the dense population, they were then expecting it to travel north and them areas would see drastic rises. is it airbourne?
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Bizarrely they seem desperate for more cases to try and explain why they have gone to the extreme lengths they have.
Trashing the economy and wrecking a generations pensions for a few deaths amongst the elderly with underlying health issues is not a good selling point to future electorates is it? |
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Thank you , Angoose . If he is able to go home on Tuesday , as we have been advised , just 4 days after a positive COVID-19 diagnosis this flies in the face of what we are being told re:quarantine . If he really has coronavirus this would be irresponsible , if he doesn't have it then they are returning false test results . Furthermore , if he does/did have it after a month in isolation in a very secluded house (which he remained inside throughout with zero contact with anybody other than my mother) then this lockdown/social distancing malarky is an absolute waste of time !
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I think they are desperate for something, maybe civil unrest and riots, they seem quite hell bent on it you might say
That way this whole charade gets hidden   |
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What I will say is I don't they will get it
 I think people are capable of looking after themselves, this whole thing has proved we can survive without governments in my opinion, they've been about as much use as a condom with holes in it |
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Please explain , Angoose , cos I'm at a complete loss for an explanation and I'm getting sick and tired of all this bollox
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Reynard good to hear your father is making progress. It certainly does sound ridiculous that he could be home if he's tested positive.
They should test him again surely. |
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Don't Reynard
They are wanting anger and rage, they want civil unrest |
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The BBC are back to recycling how to wash your hands properly
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Why test him for something that doesn't even exist ? I've said right from the outset that , in my opinion , there was NO VIRUS . My father has inadverdently provided me with evidential proof.
s . My father has inadvertently provided the evidential proof . antly |
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oops
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Thanks @clacton
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I think they want us to know its utter turd We can all get ill and they are basically making this an 18 months thing because chances are 90% of us will get a cold of some sort during that period Its obvious ffs |
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But just sit tight and let them get on with it
Reaction causes the solution remember that |
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They are desperate because they've sent the likes of David Beckham out to hijack the clapping and tom moore side shows
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Appreciated , Angoose , but surely you can offer up some sort of explanation , insensitive or otherwise , to account for the weeks events . If all these statistics and charts you keep regurgitating on here include false results then you are complicit in this international conspiracy , for surely there is no other way to define it .
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Sontaran - Either you are correct with regard to your theory relating to civil unrest (I believed from the start that it was all about Social Control by way of government 'Ruling by Fear') or it is all part of some global cover up . With regard to the latter I've been rather dismissive of all this 5g stuff but I have to confess that I'm considering it as a possibility .
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Reynard,
I wish your father well. Just like to make the point, that in the UK, as far as I'm aware, there's no dispute that if a person dies from a particular condition but also tests positive for COVID-19, they will be included in the stats. This is not the case in Germany. |
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I am not in a position to comment on the specific case of your father.
However, in broader terms as regards whether the virus actually exists, it would be the biggest conspiracy of all time if it didn't. Just way too many people who understand these things way better than I do who have studied the virus and confirm that it exists for it not to. Lots of strange things going on in the world, but we are not watching a live version of Capricorn One unfold before our eyes. |
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Thank you @i_agree_with_nick
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I'd like to know how an outside invader can do what its doing to the human body without having to enter the bloodstream to do its thing
If you get a thorn stuck in your foot guess what? it can stay there for weeks and cause no problem other than a bit of swelling, that's the bodies way of blocking it off and telling you to get it out, but you can leave it until the swelling becomes annoying, or the swelling basically aids in pushing it out almost itself. You don't get infections until it enters the bloodstream, hence why the body has multiple lines of defence And IAWN they are adding them in, "888 more people die WITH covid-19" Its all in the details mate, all in the details. Goose its a piece of p*** to pull it off, done badly but it is a piece of pi**, people will believe in it for a while because they can't see it, but fear will turn to anger when they start to realise they could be getting hoodwinked, right now people are about past the fear stage trust me, they are starting to question it |
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Reynard, hope you're Dad gets better. Are you going to allow him to stay with your Mother if he's released on Tuesday?
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Nick - that’s been confirmed in this article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52308783
To what extent is coronavirus shortening lives? This is extremely hard to judge. Nick Stripe, head of health analysis at the ONS, said understanding what the deaths from coronavirus meant was "difficult and challenging". He pointed out the risk of dying from heart disease and strokes had fallen, which could suggest they were dying from coronavirus instead of other things. |
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How many of 596 had an underlying illness these figures are nonsensical and pointless
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SS, That's what I'm saying - they are included in the COVID-19 stats in the UK and as far as I'm aware, this has been acknowldged.
In Germany, they're not which goes some way to explaining their low death rate. |
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In excess of 90% is the usual rate.
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"SS, That's what I'm saying - they are included in the COVID-19 stats in the UK and as far as I'm aware, this has been acknowldged.
In Germany, they're not which goes some way to explaining their low death rate." Or you could say they provide accurate figures and ours are inflated. |
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If it exists then how come the 'victims' have inconsistent symptoms ? My father had difficulty breathing , not unusual with a heart attack , yet had no fever , no sore throat , no loss of taste/smell , no flu-like symptoms .
Apparently when they test they test for genetic material (which is present in >90% of us) because they haven't been able to isolate the 'virus' Cheers @lurka . Yeah , he's gonna go back and transmit this coronavirus that they said he had on Friday to his 86 yr-old wife ! For the last 7 days it was deemed unsafe for her to visit him in hospital , potentially to say goodbye after 65 years together , but it's perfectly fine to share a bed back home . All the proof us doubters require ! |
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This thread is better than watching the Trump cheerleading whackos on Fox News |
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Reynard, it's either fake or it's not. If it's fake why wouldn't they keep him in past Tuesday?
Sounds like there's a chance the hospital have f'd up here. And whether it's fake or not, not a risk I would take with people of that age for what will be a matter of days of further isolation from your Mother to remove that risk entirely. |
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So duffy who do you think records figures accurately us or Germany?
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