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By:
jucel69
When: 15 Apr 20 22:36

Apr 15, 2020 -- 10:35PM, The Leopard wrote:


People are scared of going into the A&E in case they catch Corona… You can't blame them !


Just shows you that they were wasting the NHS time before then doesn't it!

By:
The Leopard
When: 15 Apr 20 22:37
Tories were in power for the last 10 years…… They had a policy of austerity…… they have pushed the NHS to the brink.
By:
The Leopard
When: 15 Apr 20 22:38

Apr 15, 2020 -- 10:36PM, jucel69 wrote:


Apr 15, 2020 --  9:35PM, The Leopard wrote:People are scared of going into the A&E in case they catch Corona… You can't blame them !Just shows you that they were wasting the NHS time before then doesn't it!


Why would somebody go into A&E and wait 4-8 hours if they are wasting NHS time.

By:
jucel69
When: 15 Apr 20 22:38

Apr 15, 2020 -- 10:37PM, The Leopard wrote:


Tories were in power for the last 10 years…… They had a policy of austerity…… they have pushed the NHS to the brink.


Not that old chestnut, 139,000,000,000 is to the brink Laugh

By:
jucel69
When: 15 Apr 20 22:40
tbf A&E numbers will be down purely down to the fact there are less accidents as people are at home
By:
The Leopard
When: 15 Apr 20 22:46
You get bamboozled puzzled by large numbers…… LOL!


NHS trusts going into debt due to underfunding !

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jan/18/nhs-hospitals-overspend-by-up-to-141m-a-year


Some English hospitals are overspending by as much as £141m a year due to NHS underfunding, staff shortages and demand for care, according to Whitehall’s spending watchdog.

King’s College healthcare trust, which runs two hospitals in London, ended last year £141.4m in the red – the biggest deficit among England’s 232 trusts that provide services.

Ten trusts recorded a combined deficit of £758m in 2017-18, which was 69% of the £991m loss that trusts collectively posted, the National Audit Office (NAO) said.

Another London trust, Barts Health, had the second largest deficit – £108.8m – while the United Lincolnshire hospitals trust was £81.23m in the red.

In addition, the Department of Health and Social Care had to make £3.2bn of emergency loans to trusts in acute financial distress. This was an increase of £2.8bn on the previous year.

Growing numbers of clinical commissioning groups, the bodies that hold the NHS budgets in local areas, are also spending more than they receive. Together they overspent by £213m.

After eight years of tiny annual budget increases, the health service as a whole is carrying an underlying deficit of £4.3bn, the NAO said.

The figures show that the NHS in England is grappling with budgetary problems that are unsustainable, the NAO concluded in its annual review of health service finances.

The watchdog said it welcomed the government’s pledge to increase NHS funding by £20.5bn a year by 2023-24 after years of the service struggling to meet soaring demand while receiving tiny budget uplifts since 2010.

It warns, however, that a series of risks and conspicuously widespread understaffing threaten to undermine the NHS’s ability to deliver the ambitious plans to improve care set out in the long-term plan it published last week.

The NAO’s report stated that: “Difficulties in recruiting NHS staff presents a real risk that some of the extra £20.5bn will either not be used optimally – more expensive agency staff will need to be used to deliver additional services – or will go unspent as even if commissioners have the resources to commission additional activity, health care providers may not have the staff to deliver it.”

It also warns ministers that continuing to cut spending on public health, capital projects and medical education and training, in order to give the NHS more money for frontline care, “could affect the NHS’s ability to deliver the priorities of the long-term plan”.

Richard Murray, the chief executive of the King’s Fund, said hospitals were not to blame for overspending, even by sums as large as £141m.

Murray added: “Despite some NHS trusts being in the red by more than £100m, NHS Improvement aims to clear all provider deficits within two years. Complex NHS finances are bedevilled by short-term fixes, fragile workarounds and unrealistic expectations that leave some trusts in significant deficit whilst others are in significant surplus.”

Anita Charlesworth, the director of research and economics at the Health Foundation, said: “Workforce shortages are the greatest threat to delivering high-quality care to all those who need it. But spending on training and education has fallen by 17% in real terms over the last five years.”

A government spokesperson said: “The long-term plan, backed by a significant funding increase of £20.5bn a year by 2023-24, rightly sets out that putting the NHS back onto a sustainable financial path is a key priority and is essential to allowing the NHS to deliver further improvements in care.”
By:
The Leopard
When: 15 Apr 20 23:20
Leopard 1

Jucel69 0

I think he has gone for a lie down Laugh
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 15 Apr 20 23:29
they pay too many people stupid money for doing nothing basically, so many tw ats like that in the NHS making 6 figures when their role could be scrapped and wouldnt be missed
By:
The Leopard
When: 15 Apr 20 23:32
I think we should stop the free service to the whole of the world....that would be a start !
By:
The Leopard
When: 15 Apr 20 23:33
Bet those Health Tourists are nashing their teeth at the moment as they can't get here Laugh
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 15 Apr 20 23:40

Apr 15, 2020 -- 11:32PM, The Leopard wrote:


I think we should stop the free service to the whole of the world....that would be a start !


yeh this also

By:
jucel69
When: 16 Apr 20 00:54

Apr 15, 2020 -- 10:46PM, The Leopard wrote:


You get bamboozled puzzled by large numbers…… LOL!NHS trusts going into debt due to underfunding !.https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jan/18/nhs-hospitals-overspend-by-up-to-141m-a-yearSome English hospitals are overspending by as much as £141m a year due to NHS underfunding, staff shortages and demand for care, according to Whitehall’s spending watchdog.King’s College healthcare trust, which runs two hospitals in London, ended last year £141.4m in the red – the biggest deficit among England’s 232 trusts that provide services.Ten trusts recorded a combined deficit of £758m in 2017-18, which was 69% of the £991m loss that trusts collectively posted, the National Audit Office (NAO) said.Another London trust, Barts Health, had the second largest deficit – £108.8m – while the United Lincolnshire hospitals trust was £81.23m in the red.In addition, the Department of Health and Social Care had to make £3.2bn of emergency loans to trusts in acute financial distress. This was an increase of £2.8bn on the previous year.Growing numbers of clinical commissioning groups, the bodies that hold the NHS budgets in local areas, are also spending more than they receive. Together they overspent by £213m.After eight years of tiny annual budget increases, the health service as a whole is carrying an underlying deficit of £4.3bn, the NAO said.The figures show that the NHS in England is grappling with budgetary problems that are unsustainable, the NAO concluded in its annual review of health service finances.The watchdog said it welcomed the government’s pledge to increase NHS funding by £20.5bn a year by 2023-24 after years of the service struggling to meet soaring demand while receiving tiny budget uplifts since 2010.It warns, however, that a series of risks and conspicuously widespread understaffing threaten to undermine the NHS’s ability to deliver the ambitious plans to improve care set out in the long-term plan it published last week.The NAO’s report stated that: “Difficulties in recruiting NHS staff presents a real risk that some of the extra £20.5bn will either not be used optimally – more expensive agency staff will need to be used to deliver additional services – or will go unspent as even if commissioners have the resources to commission additional activity, health care providers may not have the staff to deliver it.”It also warns ministers that continuing to cut spending on public health, capital projects and medical education and training, in order to give the NHS more money for frontline care, “could affect the NHS’s ability to deliver the priorities of the long-term plan”.Richard Murray, the chief executive of the King’s Fund, said hospitals were not to blame for overspending, even by sums as large as £141m.Murray added: “Despite some NHS trusts being in the red by more than £100m, NHS Improvement aims to clear all provider deficits within two years. Complex NHS finances are bedevilled by short-term fixes, fragile workarounds and unrealistic expectations that leave some trusts in significant deficit whilst others are in significant surplus.”Anita Charlesworth, the director of research and economics at the Health Foundation, said: “Workforce shortages are the greatest threat to delivering high-quality care to all those who need it. But spending on training and education has fallen by 17% in real terms over the last five years.”A government spokesperson said: “The long-term plan, backed by a significant funding increase of £20.5bn a year by 2023-24, rightly sets out that putting the NHS back onto a sustainable financial path is a key priority and is essential to allowing the NHS to deliver further improvements in care.”


As soon as I saw you were quoting the Retardian I stopped reading it

You do realise Blair's PFI (that has now been written off by the Tories) caused a lot of problems for hospitals

No, I didn't go for a lie down, just been out to do 15k in the garden
Got to keep lungs going!!

By:
jucel69
When: 16 Apr 20 00:57

Apr 15, 2020 -- 11:32PM, The Leopard wrote:


I think we should stop the free service to the whole of the world....that would be a start !


This I will agree on.
If I don't have insurance where I live I'm left to die.
I know a bloke who died in Thailand and because he had an outstanding bill they left him in the temple to rot in a box.
All that was left of him was bones after a few months, they wouldn't release the body for a funeral!

By:
The Leopard
When: 16 Apr 20 01:19
Dohs Buddhists....hard as nails !

15K ? ......more like a line of K !

Laugh
By:
Injera
When: 16 Apr 20 07:19
Shh..don’t tell Tom!



The study, published in the journal Policy and Politics, details how NHS yearly expenditure on management consultants almost doubled from £313 million in 2010 to £640 million in 2014.

Andrew Sturdy, professor in management at the University of Bristol, said: "Our research has clearly shown that management consultants are not only failing to improve efficiency in the NHS but, in most cases, making the situation worse.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/21/hospitals-waste-money-hiring-management-consultants/
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 16 Apr 20 08:51
knight him now, trying to donate but website is crashing, will try laterGrin
By:
jucel69
When: 16 Apr 20 08:58
It is an amazing achievement when you consider Children in Need raised 48 million and that is heavily advertised and a tremendous lot of work goes into it

Just hope it helps people directly now, not into the NHS black hole
By:
nineteen points
When: 16 Apr 20 08:59
bbc gonna kill the poor bugger off.they seem to have claimed him and parading him on tv all the time for their ratings.that cant be helping him imvho

a massive well done to him though.a true example to us all.
By:
tictacman1
When: 16 Apr 20 11:59
A 99-year-old war veteran has walked 100 laps of his garden to raise more than £12m for the NHS.

But he smashed his target after more than 640,000 people made donations to his fundraising page.

As he finished the challenge, he said: "I feel fine, I hope you're all feeling fine too."
By:
The Leopard
When: 16 Apr 20 12:07
His chances of catching Corona must be greatly increased with all those individuals buzzing around him !
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 16 Apr 20 12:18
give the money to the nurses and cleaners might be £300 each
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 16 Apr 20 12:39
Pretty annoyed that the media aren't asking the obvious question of why this needs to keep happening. You've had the footballers, the Edinburgh woman organising 5k runs, this old dude, the list goes on.

The NHS isn't a charity. We are all supposed to be paying for it so that when the time comes when we or are loved ones need it then it's available. Not so we can allow Amazon et al to pay 0.000001 tax or Prince Andrew can have a chauffeur take him to the local swimming pool.

The best this motley crew can do is come up with a badge ffs.



There really, really needs to be a proper inquest once this is done because it's been an utter disgrace.
By:
nineteen points
When: 16 Apr 20 12:43
or an overweight buffoon taking a bed in icu,nurses doctors valuable time in a publicity stunt aimed at gettin him out of the spotlight
By:
Crisp77
When: 16 Apr 20 13:01

Apr 16, 2020 -- 11:59AM, tictacman1 wrote:


A 99-year-old war veteran has walked 100 laps of his garden to raise more than £12m for the NHS.But he smashed his target after more than 640,000 people made donations to his fundraising page.As he finished the challenge, he said: "I feel fine, I hope you're all feeling fine too."


Send him around again for another £12m Cool

By:
JJmbe
When: 16 Apr 20 13:23
Well done Tom, my old neighbour and namesake john jenkins mbe would of been so proud, what makes this country great true hero.
By:
aaronh
When: 16 Apr 20 14:20
Its not normal to charity fundraise for a tax funded public service
By:
The Leopard
When: 16 Apr 20 15:08
My postman does more than Tom ...every day !

....light-weight !
By:
The Leopard
When: 16 Apr 20 15:13
Hope they sterilised that ribbon before Tom touched it !
By:
nineteen points
When: 16 Apr 20 15:36
if he makes it to 20mill the cowardly buffoon will be around to shake his hand!
By:
twizzle22
When: 16 Apr 20 15:40
the.mad.dog.man 16 Apr 20 11:18 
give the money to the nurses and cleaners might be £300 each


Now that is a spiffing idea mad dog
By:
Cider
When: 16 Apr 20 15:59

Apr 16, 2020 -- 3:36PM, nineteen points wrote:


if he makes it to 20mill the cowardly buffoon will be around to shake his hand!


Corbyn should be self isolating due to his age, I believe.

By:
nineteen points
When: 16 Apr 20 16:13
why mention corbyn? whats he got to do with it?
By:
Cider
When: 16 Apr 20 16:24
How many other cowardly buffoons do you know?
By:
casemoney
When: 16 Apr 20 16:33
14 Million > Shocked
By:
Cider
When: 16 Apr 20 16:36
I hadn't realised London had got that big!
By:
potlis
When: 16 Apr 20 16:37
Husband and wife...NHS consultants.... spent around £1.3 Million buying and redeveloping the penthouse in our building, family holiday home.

Keep it going Captain Tom.
By:
cooperman
When: 17 Apr 20 12:50
Need to fast track a knighthood through for the veteran. 
By:
Just Checking
When: 17 Apr 20 12:56
Was a nice touch that the parade of Honour (he's from Yorkshire though he lives in Bedforshire now) was the new Yorkshire Regiment who are the ancestors after amalgamation of the one he served in.
By:
jucel69
When: 17 Apr 20 23:59
Dear me that rendition of 'never walk alone' with Michael Ball & Captain Tom is cringeworthy
By:
casemoney
When: 18 Apr 20 00:02
20 million ShockedShockedLaughGrin Well done That man

what a legend
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