More than 100 recovered coronavirus patients in South Korea test positive AGAIN

Has anyone considered the possibility that they are testing for the wrong indicator ?

I don't think they have a fùcking clue what they are doing
Everybody just keeps playing for time hoping that somebody will get a grip of the situation

It might help if they had some sort of clue as to exactly what they're looking for . It seems to me that they are possibly focusing their efforts on the wrong type of 'virus'

Incidentally , my father was taken into hospital last night . His symptoms include 'shortage of breath' and 'irregular heartbeat' (2 previous heart attacks) . Classic COVID-19 symptoms . However , both he and my mother have been isolating for the last 4 weeks in their secluded house and have had absolutely zero contact with any other person . If he is tested for COVID-19 , as I understand is routine , and it comes back positive then it will confirm my belief that they are claiming more positive 'coronavirus' tests than is the actual case .

Reynard I have had a heart attack and have irregular heartbeat. I have self isolated for about the same time and thought I would be safe.I hope your father's test comes back negative.

Also, the 'winners' (by which I mean Countries) in this will be those whose story is the most plausible.

South Korea has been doing very nicely so far, held up as the way to go with their harsh, immediate lockdown (when was it? December probably in folklore at least).

This news might have put a bit of a crimp in the figures they've been trotting out

I mean, not to Chinese levels of lying but still.....

Your thoughts are appreciated . Thank you and stay safe yourself , clacton .

They are looking for the RNA sequence that the Chinese originally put out that they said caused the symptoms for the illness they call Covid-19.

Please report back his test result. My son-in-law tested positive when went to hospital for something unrelated and had no Covid-19 symptoms.

No lockdown in South Korea as far as I know Hanx.

Insider Trader - Possibly because they are testing for exosomes , which are present in virtually everybody , healthy or otherwise .

Someone's been watching videos of the doctor that heavily, disingenuously misrepresents the work of others.

because of Bayes theorem, when you have a low % of the population infected, testing of people without symptoms will produce far more false positives than true positives unless the test is infallible.

Apr 14, 2020 -- 9:45AM, InsiderTrader wrote:

They are looking for the RNA sequence that the Chinese originally put out that they said caused the symptoms for the illness they call Covid-19.Please report back his test result. My son-in-law tested positive when went to hospital for something unrelated and had no Covid-19 symptoms.

Well, they are not "only" blindly looking for the sequence that the Chinese gave them. It's been independently isolated and sequenced by a number of labs around the world by now.

Of course, unlike what the 5G grifters that falsify the studies of real scientists to bullshit you would have you believe, they are also looking for that viral RNA (that's vastly identical to that of other previously known coronaviruses) and not for some exosomes under a microscope or something.

There are a lot a load of dodgy testing kits around.

Reynard
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Insider Trader - Possibly because they are testing for exosomes , which are present in virtually everybody , healthy or otherwise

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I thought they were testing for a specific RNA sequence?

They are.

He got that nonsense from some video by some random GP who thinks (or says for attention) that covid-19 doesn't even exist. Instead there is some other mysterious thing (5G) that poisons our bodies. As a reaction, the body creates exosomes, which are then being detected. Video was e.g spread by Icke.

Even if you have zero scientific knowledge whatsoever, one might want to ask themselves why e.g about 80% of the tests in the USA come back as negative if they are "testing for exosomes , which are present in virtually everybody , healthy or otherwise ."

For good measure, the grifting doctor included a quote from a scientific article regarding HIV from 2003, and made it look like that scientist had written that SARS.MkII was fully an exosome. I.e he purposefully misled his viewers by heavily misportraying a renowned scientist not only about which virus the quoted sentence was written about, but also what the author tried to say with it (he didn't try to claim that HIV doesn't exist...).

Misquoted renowned scientist, James Hildreth, is on record warning about covid-19 btw.

Apr 14, 2020 -- 9:40AM, clacton wrote:

Reynard I have had a heart attack and have irregular heartbeat. I have self isolated for about the same time and thought I would be safe.I hope your father's test comes back negative.

Snap a virus attacked my heart and left me with Afib, so I have been self isolating for 4 weeks now. Good luck to your parents and I hope your dads tests prove negative Reynard,

Had Virus symptoms , a few weeks Back , last night horrible Cough and delirious Felt very stiff today ,still have cough ,taking paras , fook knows whats going on , We need testing kits .

If I have a lingering chest infection I need antibiotics ,But it could be any virus ,the whole
situation is getting silly , Even if or when the Lockdown is lifted how can people know if they
are not going to spread to rest of the workforce etc , Its madness

As for Juice suggesting people being  re infected ,It would not surprise me at all

If that the case we have got no where

Sorry to hear that case, I thought you might be much better now, .

I had really bad aching (everywhere) nausea, and extreme fatigue for over a week, two nights ago woke up in a pool of sweat had to get up change my PJs, sheets, pillow slips, etc. But felt much, much better since.

Don't think that it was in any related to cov 19.

True case. Hope you feel better soon.

Fox, did you have a letter saying to isolate for 12 weeks? What you going to do after the 12 weeks if the virus is still about?

The common theory regarding that isn't, as jucel pointed out too, that people get re-infected (in short order), but much rather that it might re-activate or goes back to the throat after it had previously been elsewhere in the body where it couldn't be detected with the common tests.

...Which might force people to re-think on releasing people after negative tests for another few days, weeks, or whatever. More research will certainly be needed on people who are meant to be fully recovered and non-infectuous.

Hope you get better, casemoney.

No InsiderTrader, I'm in London, and was not at home (Rugby) when they went out.

After 12 weeks? I don't have a scooby, but have been told I can stay as long as I need, but whilst that is great, I would love to get home.

InsiderTrader, have you had a letter?.

My wife has.

She had heart failure. Got dilated cardiomyopathy and had AF. Has had a few cardiac arrests a while back. Had an ICD in. Had an abalation to get rid of the dodgy beats. Had total heart block. Now 100% on the pacemaker.

They said 12 weeks min stay home.

Jesus!, sorry to hear that, Waiting for an ablation myself 12 month wait (before the virus) I take 11 pills a day! to keep going.

Your wife has been well and truly through the mill, I can only wish you both the very best,

everyone ive heard who,ve been hospitalised and recovered seem to talk much more about the fatique,aches,pains etc than the cough,only one who ive really heard talk about the cough was matt hancock who said it was like coughing razor blades,
biggest clue now is if you have 1st symptons now as were coming out of normal flu season,much more likely to be the virus

Thanks for the best wishes Lads , I doubt I have it , been feeling  unwell on and orf for a few weeks

Infact Might be a few years , If I actually woke  up feeling healthy I would suspect Something

was seriously wrong


G luck all lets try and stay safe

"everyone ive heard who,ve been hospitalised and recovered seem to talk much more about the fatique,aches,pains etc" bloody hell!,

Second time in 6 weeks, but no sweats with the first bout, so expect (hope) thats an end to it, whatever it was.

ive had an off flu type bug for about a month, wagered at one point I,d had it but who no,s, woke up a few times sweating,pillow soaking,sore throat, but never a cough and never the fatigue ,muscel ache

No sore throat, or any of the others, the fatigue was extreme, getting from one room to another was like running a marathon.

Like you say who knows? If you could be tested, you would know for sure, can't see that happening any time soon. Hope it's gone for you now.

comes and goes and of course in this clamate every cough,sneeze,sweat,headache etc etc is magnified a 100 times ,its like self forfilling

If I may ask -

What sort of Weight are all you guys 'waking up in the middle of the night in a pool of sweat'?

Me 11 3/4 stone, 75 kgs, have been that weight for 40 years.

But you declined to tell us that you are 4 feet 5

I,ll be about 6ft and a stone over my fighting weight, but to be fair ive never seen the inside of a gym for 40 years ,but grafted like fook,hard graft for last 40 yrs, do about 4/5 10/12 **** a month now and shifts I used to laugh my way through I now get home and get up after a couple of hrs in the chair and I,m like a broken man,

as ive openly stated on the fruit picking thrtead I,m a no,no,no

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Jesus!, sorry to hear that, Waiting for an ablation myself 12 month wait (before the virus) I take 11 pills a day! to keep going.

Your wife has been well and truly through the mill, I can only wish you both the very best

^

Thanks fox. Ablation was live changing for her so hope it is for you.

Apr 14, 2020 -- 7:52PM, Angoose wrote:

But you declined to tell us that you are 4 feet 5

5ft 11 inches in old money

Thank you - boxingfox, and 1st time poster.

I asked because ...

Leaving aside the 'unreported' Care Home deaths of the elderly - the vast majority who would more than likely 'have other, or even complicated, under-lying health conditions'

The most significant  sign to me, is it has been reported, especially in the highest Deaths USA, that ...

73% of Deaths from coronavirus have been either ...

OVERWEIGHT - Body-Mass Index in excess of 25
OBESE - Body-Mass in excess of 30
CLINICALLY OBESE - Body-Mass Index in excess of around 40

What also goes cap in hand with such OVERWEIGHT is the next 2 dangerous conditions ...

DIABETES

HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE

They both being 'a given' in most OVERWEIGHT cases

As is excessive Alcohol consumption - Eating all kinds of crap junk food - including McDonalds, KFC, and even Supermarket (Microwave) Ready-Meals... aswell as slumping on the Sofa with a giant bag of Crisps

73% is - somewhat coincidentally - the figure for -

BLACK - ASIAN - and ETHNIC MINORITY cases of death

There is surely  an undoubted GENETIC angle here, to this

No coincidence that many BLACK people are 'on the large side', aswell -  especially the females, who are   in a less risk group otherwise.

What has struck me is the those TWO 73% figures - seems to tie-in with the Photos of the deceased that have been shown on the Television News - and that 73% undeniably confirmed by the Photo montage of Coloured and Asian NHS staff who have sadly succumbed.

It is undeniable that - We have not been seeing anything anywhere near a higher number - let alone a majority - of slim white people in those sad Photos.

What a truly uplifting thread.........................

was reading today lots of male patients complaining of pain/aches in the wedding tackle region

think once you get above 60 ,I,m 60 carrying a little bit of timber becomes common place,most people probably heavier at 60 than they were say at 45/50

...which is why the "they all had underlying conditions and were hence on their death beds" is a big scam if underlying conditions means "overweight, raised blood pressure and diabetes"

My brother is a top consultant in N Ireland.  He says that 90% of the patients he has dealt with our overweight, diabetes, hypertension, etc.  What onlooker has highlighted above seems to be what is happening.  Diabetes is also high in the South Asian community

Ethnicity facts
Type 2 diabetes is up to 6 times more likely in people of South Asian descent
Type 2 diabetes is up to three times more likely in African and Africa-Caribbean people

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-and-ethnicity.html

goose - why do this people who are on TV or radio not highlight this when they are calling out about why are so many BAME NHS staff have passed away??

Thank you - Kriskin

There are 90-odd years-old World War Veterans recovering from this ... and they weren't in the Ghurkas

- Yet - Fat females half that age are dropping dead.

A lot of fatism and racism appearing on this thread suddenly.

Other thing to mention this virus for whatever reason likes the male species.  Majority of patients are male.

Apr 14, 2020 -- 9:25PM, Kriskin wrote:

goose - why do this people who are on TV or radio not highlight this when they are calling out about why are so many BAME NHS staff have passed away??

We largely have lowest common denominator newscasts, quick and punchy, move on quickly to the next scoop.

No - Inside Trader - Just REALISM.

- and that is what is needed by everybody now.

Were I not to highlight OverWeight and Race - or worse still, were not allowed to - then would all those such people suddenly miraculously become exempt from both the symptoms and consequences of coronavirus?

If there is one thing that this epidemic may do - 

It is to SHUT UP up the 'Politically Correct Police'    -  who have REALLY been 'short of something to bother about' ................

Until this came along.