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Has anyone considered the possibility that they are testing for the wrong indicator ?
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I don't think they have a fùcking clue what they are doing
Everybody just keeps playing for time hoping that somebody will get a grip of the situation |
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It might help if they had some sort of clue as to exactly what they're looking for . It seems to me that they are possibly focusing their efforts on the wrong type of 'virus'
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Incidentally , my father was taken into hospital last night . His symptoms include 'shortage of breath' and 'irregular heartbeat' (2 previous heart attacks) . Classic COVID-19 symptoms . However , both he and my mother have been isolating for the last 4 weeks in their secluded house and have had absolutely zero contact with any other person . If he is tested for COVID-19 , as I understand is routine , and it comes back positive then it will confirm my belief that they are claiming more positive 'coronavirus' tests than is the actual case .
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Reynard I have had a heart attack and have irregular heartbeat. I have self isolated for about the same time and thought I would be safe.I hope your father's test comes back negative.
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Also, the 'winners' (by which I mean Countries) in this will be those whose story is the most plausible.
South Korea has been doing very nicely so far, held up as the way to go with their harsh, immediate lockdown (when was it? December probably in folklore at least). This news might have put a bit of a crimp in the figures they've been trotting out I mean, not to Chinese levels of lying but still..... |
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Your thoughts are appreciated . Thank you and stay safe yourself , clacton .
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They are looking for the RNA sequence that the Chinese originally put out that they said caused the symptoms for the illness they call Covid-19.
Please report back his test result. My son-in-law tested positive when went to hospital for something unrelated and had no Covid-19 symptoms. |
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No lockdown in South Korea as far as I know Hanx.
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Insider Trader - Possibly because they are testing for exosomes , which are present in virtually everybody , healthy or otherwise .
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Someone's been watching videos of the doctor that heavily, disingenuously misrepresents the work of others.
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because of Bayes theorem, when you have a low % of the population infected, testing of people without symptoms will produce far more false positives than true positives unless the test is infallible.
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There are a lot a load of dodgy testing kits around.
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14 Apr 20 08:49 Joined: 30 Dec 02 | Topic/replies: 6,269 | Blogger: Reynard's blog Insider Trader - Possibly because they are testing for exosomes , which are present in virtually everybody , healthy or otherwise ^ I thought they were testing for a specific RNA sequence? |
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They are.
He got that nonsense from some video by some random GP who thinks (or says for attention) that covid-19 doesn't even exist. Instead there is some other mysterious thing (5G) that poisons our bodies. As a reaction, the body creates exosomes, which are then being detected. Video was e.g spread by Icke. Even if you have zero scientific knowledge whatsoever, one might want to ask themselves why e.g about 80% of the tests in the USA come back as negative if they are "testing for exosomes , which are present in virtually everybody , healthy or otherwise ." For good measure, the grifting doctor included a quote from a scientific article regarding HIV from 2003, and made it look like that scientist had written that SARS.MkII was fully an exosome. I.e he purposefully misled his viewers by heavily misportraying a renowned scientist not only about which virus the quoted sentence was written about, but also what the author tried to say with it (he didn't try to claim that HIV doesn't exist...). |
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Misquoted renowned scientist, James Hildreth, is on record warning about covid-19 btw.
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Had Virus symptoms , a few weeks Back , last night horrible Cough and delirious Felt very stiff today ,still have cough ,taking paras , fook knows whats going on , We need testing kits .
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If I have a lingering chest infection I need antibiotics ,But it could be any virus ,the whole
situation is getting silly , Even if or when the Lockdown is lifted how can people know if they are not going to spread to rest of the workforce etc , Its madness |
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As for Juice suggesting people being re infected ,It would not surprise me at all
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Sorry to hear that case, I thought you might be much better now,
.I had really bad aching (everywhere) nausea, and extreme fatigue for over a week, two nights ago woke up in a pool of sweat had to get up change my PJs, sheets, pillow slips, etc. But felt much, much better since. Don't think that it was in any related to cov 19. |
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True case. Hope you feel better soon.
Fox, did you have a letter saying to isolate for 12 weeks? What you going to do after the 12 weeks if the virus is still about? |
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The common theory regarding that isn't, as jucel pointed out too, that people get re-infected (in short order), but much rather that it might re-activate or goes back to the throat after it had previously been elsewhere in the body where it couldn't be detected with the common tests.
...Which might force people to re-think on releasing people after negative tests for another few days, weeks, or whatever. More research will certainly be needed on people who are meant to be fully recovered and non-infectuous. Hope you get better, casemoney. |
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No InsiderTrader, I'm in London, and was not at home (Rugby) when they went out.
After 12 weeks? I don't have a scooby, but have been told I can stay as long as I need, but whilst that is great, I would love to get home. ![]() |
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InsiderTrader, have you had a letter?.
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My wife has.
She had heart failure. Got dilated cardiomyopathy and had AF. Has had a few cardiac arrests a while back. Had an ICD in. Had an abalation to get rid of the dodgy beats. Had total heart block. Now 100% on the pacemaker. They said 12 weeks min stay home. |
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Jesus!, sorry to hear that, Waiting for an ablation myself 12 month wait (before the virus) I take 11 pills a day! to keep going.
Your wife has been well and truly through the mill, I can only wish you both the very best, ![]() |
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everyone ive heard who,ve been hospitalised and recovered seem to talk much more about the fatique,aches,pains etc than the cough,only one who ive really heard talk about the cough was matt hancock who said it was like coughing razor blades,
biggest clue now is if you have 1st symptons now as were coming out of normal flu season,much more likely to be the virus |
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Thanks for the best wishes Lads , I doubt I have it , been feeling unwell on and orf for a few weeks
Infact Might be a few years , If I actually woke up feeling healthy I would suspect Something was seriously wrong ![]() G luck all lets try and stay safe |
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"everyone ive heard who,ve been hospitalised and recovered seem to talk much more about the fatique,aches,pains etc" bloody hell!,
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Second time in 6 weeks, but no sweats with the first bout, so expect (hope) thats an end to it, whatever it was.
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ive had an off flu type bug for about a month, wagered at one point I,d had it but who no,s, woke up a few times sweating,pillow soaking,sore throat, but never a cough and never the fatigue ,muscel ache
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No sore throat, or any of the others, the fatigue was extreme, getting from one room to another was like running a marathon.
Like you say who knows? If you could be tested, you would know for sure, can't see that happening any time soon. Hope it's gone for you now. ![]() |
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comes and goes and of course in this clamate every cough,sneeze,sweat,headache etc etc is magnified a 100 times ,its like self forfilling
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If I may ask -
What sort of Weight are all you guys 'waking up in the middle of the night in a pool of sweat'? |
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Me 11 3/4 stone, 75 kgs, have been that weight for 40 years.
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But you declined to tell us that you are 4 feet 5
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I,ll be about 6ft and a stone over my fighting weight, but to be fair ive never seen the inside of a gym for 40 years ,but grafted like fook,hard graft for last 40 yrs, do about 4/5 10/12 **** a month now and shifts I used to laugh my way through I now get home and get up after a couple of hrs in the chair and I,m like a broken man,
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